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The issue is what the council will license a venue for as the attendance, not what a venue can hold.
Conceivably you could get a 5k license for O'Neill Park when completed but you aren't getting anything close to that for Carrickmore.

Alternative venues aren't an option as health and safety has moved on from the early 2000s. There were more in attendance in Healy Park for both games than MUDC or FODC would allow as the capacity for Dungannon/ Carrickmore/ Coalisland/ Pomeroy now and then you're into the issue of u16s needing tickets. McKenna Cup games on tour might be more realistic.

The Rossies in Omagh early didn't like their chances today so best not to read into it too much. Job well done but next week will tell the tale.

TG4 were incorrect. When Glennon caught the ball he was outside the square (screen grab below). He ran from a square ball position. But this is not soccer, as if he was running from an offside position to impact the play. The square ball rule only applies if the ball goes into the square. It never went into the square when Glennon caught it. There was no square ball rule to apply.

Maybe I'm wrong because it was a few years ago but I was always told that it's when the ball was kicked is when you judge a square ball. If he runs out and then in again it's still a square ball?!?

And how many of those two teams start if they're still in the squad? Any of them other than Rory Brennan and McNamee? Perhaps Mark Bradley but I don't think either Harte or Logan/Dooher started McCurry and Bradley in the same team too often. Perhaps Paul Donaghy might have a better chance to establish himself now McKenna is back in Australia but outside those I don't see it.
Depth is an issue but lets not kid ourselves that there are loads of game changers being overlooked in club football. There's a great crop of under 20s coming over the next couple of seasons but they're a few seasons from making a major impact at senior level.

Why does nobody want to play county for Tyrone anymore?

It is getting very close (maybe it already has) got to the stage whereby the team of players who have walked/declined would beat the current starting 15.

Other than McNamee and Rory Brennan who has walked away while they were a starter?

[Are the preseason games on GAAGO?]

Are the preseason games on GAAGO?

Is it available to purchase for the 2024 season yet?

Ulster did their own pass for McKenna Cup last year.

My contract with o2 is up this month. Has anyone ever took a sim only contract with O2 through Uswitch? Their deal on say 30g is over half the price that O2 are quoting me directly. The uswitch says it includes roaming and o2 priority. I'm just wondering what the catch is?

Thread bump.

Need to sort sim only contract and seen some great deals online through Uswitch and the like.  Spoke to the likes of Three and Vodafone instore and when I mentioned the deals they said they were specific to online only.

Assume it's all legit?

It should be fine. I got a new contract with a S23 through the moneysavingsupermarket cheap phone deals and have had no bother - it tells you the total price of the contract including handset price so there shouldn't be any surprises.

It's still a money gouge. Last year Tyrone literally denied free coverage to TG4 to maximise income (£16 to attend or the same price to watch on Tyrone TV I think). The same type of boys (the length & breadth of Ireland) will be crying looking volunteers in the next breath. 

How much did people have to shell out to attend the games before streaming was widely available?

The bit that people forget about the Tyrone model and the lack of a streaming season pass is that all adult championship games, at all levels, are shown, unlike other counties that cherry-pick which games get the streaming treatment. The first round of the Tyrone JFC this weekend won't turn a profit on any of the games, but they're all available live and the associated production costs for each of them will be the same as for Errigal Ciaran v Killyclogher in a fortnight, which will make money. The rates TG4 offer are a fraction of what a big Tyrone game might pull in, but there are plenty of counties that haven't as strong a streaming audience are glad to get the rates.

Ruairi Canavan is the U20 captain so that puts an end to the senior discussion. He will be able to go into the senior squad for the group stages if the 20s get out of Ulster.

You have to assume that means Conor Cush is gone also to the 20's. The correct decision for both lads in my opinion. Plenty of time for them after 20's is finished to rejoin senior set up if required.

Looks like it. I'm told Cush played for the 20s in a challenge game last Saturday and hit 4-4.

Ruairi Canavan is the U20 captain so that puts an end to the senior discussion. He will be able to go into the senior squad for the group stages if the 20s get out of Ulster.

[2023 senior/intermediate/junior club football managers]

It would be rude of me to not thank the posters on here for giving me a bit of backup, especially as I asked no one for it. You can't please everyone but I try my best.

Back to normal service & an update with the 2023 football managers list from additional info here & elsewhere...

2023 senior/intermediate/junior club football managers

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Senior / Division 1

Ardboe - Gavin Devlin
Carrickmore - Archie Beattie
Coalisland - Barry Tracey / Stevie McNeice
Donaghmore  - Marc Counihan
Dromore - McMenamin/McIver
Dungannon - Rafferty/Holmes
Edendork -
Eglish -
Errigal Ciaran - Harte/O'Donnell
Galbally -
Greencastle - Sean Teague
Killyclogher -
Loughmacrory - McConnell/Meenagh
Moortown - Hassan
Omagh - Strain
Trillick - Jody Gormley

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Intermediate / Division 2

Aghyaran -
Beragh - Noel Slane
Clogher -
Clonoe -
Derrylaughan -
Gortin -
Kildress -
Killeeshil -
Moy -
Naomh Eoghan - Sean Murtagh
Owen Roes - Stefan Deery and Tim Harney
Pomeroy -
Rock -
Stewartstown -
Strabane - Dermot Corry staying on, (Mickey Rae apparently gone though)
T***yreagh -

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Junior / Division 3

Aghaloo -
Augher -
Brackaville -
Brocagh -
Castlederg - Chris McLaughlin
Clann na nGael -
Cookstown - Conleth Donnelly/Des Tracey
Derrytresk -
Donaghmore III -
Drumquin -
Drumragh -
Errigal Ciaran III -
Eskra -
Fintona -
Glenelly -
Killyman -
Urney - Marty McNulty

Anyone know how to transfer a mobile ticket?

As far as I know you have to do it from a desktop/laptop and download it as a PDF to send it - the transfer functionality doesn't appear to be activated on gaa Ticketmaster accounts

[Are you claiming that GAA encompasses 40% of ALL sport in NI?]

Er, IL matches don't reflect the entirety of football in NI, or anything like it.

More to the point, as well as GAA, Football and Rugby, "sports clubs and organisations" encompasses hockey, athletics, boxing, swimming, golf, tennis, badminton, bowls, cricket, motor sports, netball, gymnastics, equestrian, cycling, basketball, disabled sports and any number of others which I can't bring immediately to mind.

Are you claiming that GAA encompasses 40% of ALL sport in NI?

I don't think anyone is claiming that or anything close to it but I find it interesting that you're quoting everything except the substantive point.

That was the clear implication of Eammonca's post, both with his IL dig, and the overall tone of this thread, which is comparing GAA, Football and Rugby.

The hardship fund is to cover overheads and maintain facilities.

Personally, I have no idea if GAA units own 40% of the facilities that aren't owned by the local councils or hired from Universities, schools or elsewhere but it's fair to say, with the exception of Golf clubs, that a much higher percentage of GAA clubs own their own facilities than those organisations you mention.

Except that the fund is not intended only for sports organisations which own their own premises, or even weighted towards them.

As I pointed out, it is for the benefit of literally thousands of clubs and organisations, covering dozens of sports and activities, with numbers of participants who must reach six figures (when you count people who play more than one sport).

To claim that GAA's "share", whether measured by clubs or membership, amounts to 40%  of the overall, is quite simply ludicrous.

http://www.sportni.net/funding/our-funding-programmes/sports-hardship-fund-2/

What we'll fund

The fund has been developed to help sport and physical recreation organisations meet their obligations, in particular fixed costs, which are no longer supported with revenue as a result of coronavirus. This might cover expenditure on:

Rent/Lease
Heat
Light
Utilities
Water Rates
Essential grounds/facility maintenance (to maintain a state of readiness)
Some Insurance (essential building/contents insurance, public liability, pro-rata)

Evening all.

Just taken a quick scan of how this thread has developed since my last visit and this contributiuon from 'Tyrone86' caught my eye.

And I have to say it is not at all relevant to the original matter which caused me to open this thread.

That is, I was referring to general funding for 3 years from 2016 to 2109, where there was a big disparity between funding for the 3 codes.

Whereas 'Tyrone86' refers to the emergency Covid funding first announced in April and since augmented by a second tranche. With the emphasis on Fixed Costs listed, you might expect sports which own more of their own premises to benefit more, no problem from me with that.

But the original BT article referred to funding across the board, where the effect of Fixed Costs etc must inevitably be diluted.

Which brings us back to my original query, which has still to be explained adequately to my satisfaction, at least.

I don't think anyone here will be able to answer it to your satisfaction because, maybe I'm wrong, I suspect no-one sits on the board providing the funding. If you FOI the department of communities I'm sure they'll give you the necessary breakdowns and maybe an overarching view of what applications were accepted and what was rejected and what the funding was requested for at a granular level.

Similarly, it might be interesting to break down what local councils are providing in terms of full time and casual coaches, facilities, the upkeep of said facilities and other funding to sporting bodies / clubs to see if there's any huge disparity? IIRC a large chunk of the money for the redevelopment of the Brandywell came from the local council as well as from Stormont.

[Are you claiming that GAA encompasses 40% of ALL sport in NI?]

Er, IL matches don't reflect the entirety of football in NI, or anything like it.

More to the point, as well as GAA, Football and Rugby, "sports clubs and organisations" encompasses hockey, athletics, boxing, swimming, golf, tennis, badminton, bowls, cricket, motor sports, netball, gymnastics, equestrian, cycling, basketball, disabled sports and any number of others which I can't bring immediately to mind.

Are you claiming that GAA encompasses 40% of ALL sport in NI?

I don't think anyone is claiming that or anything close to it but I find it interesting that you're quoting everything except the substantive point.

That was the clear implication of Eammonca's post, both with his IL dig, and the overall tone of this thread, which is comparing GAA, Football and Rugby.

The hardship fund is to cover overheads and maintain facilities.

Personally, I have no idea if GAA units own 40% of the facilities that aren't owned by the local councils or hired from Universities, schools or elsewhere but it's fair to say, with the exception of Golf clubs, that a much higher percentage of GAA clubs own their own facilities than those organisations you mention.

Except that the fund is not intended only for sports organisations which own their own premises, or even weighted towards them.

As I pointed out, it is for the benefit of literally thousands of clubs and organisations, covering dozens of sports and activities, with numbers of participants who must reach six figures (when you count people who play more than one sport).

To claim that GAA's "share", whether measured by clubs or membership, amounts to 40%  of the overall, is quite simply ludicrous.

http://www.sportni.net/funding/our-funding-programmes/sports-hardship-fund-2/

What we'll fund

The fund has been developed to help sport and physical recreation organisations meet their obligations, in particular fixed costs, which are no longer supported with revenue as a result of coronavirus. This might cover expenditure on:

Rent/Lease
Heat
Light
Utilities
Water Rates
Essential grounds/facility maintenance (to maintain a state of readiness)
Some Insurance (essential building/contents insurance, public liability, pro-rata)