Would you be in favour of a second tier?

Started by sligoman2, June 26, 2017, 12:34:12 PM

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Would you be in favour of an alternative championship for Div 3 and 4 with winners and runners up rejoining the other championship.

Yes
136 (52.7%)
No
104 (40.3%)
Undecided
18 (7%)

Total Members Voted: 258

Rossfan

Quote from: five points on May 20, 2019, 09:37:20 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 19, 2019, 12:19:06 PM
And who exactly is proposing to drop the Ulster Championship?

Quite a number of people, including here, want to play them in wintry February and March as some sort of glorified McKenna Cup, which amounts to the same thing.
Nobody officially in GAA world ..... just us blatherers here :D

No point bringing hurling into the argument.
You'd think Louth v Kilkenny used to play each  in Leinster and get half an hour on the Sunday game.....
The tiers suit hurling because of the vast differences in standards and the miniscule number if hurlers in half the Counties.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Cunny Funt

Westmeath chairman Billy Foley got his view across on the match day programme on Saturday. Food for thought there.

magpie seanie

Fair play to him. A lot of what he highlights also applies beyond hurling and football.

Owenmoresider

Quote from: magpie seanie on May 20, 2019, 03:27:01 PM
Fair play to him. A lot of what he highlights also applies beyond hurling and football.
Better than what was in our programme yesterday, a pair of articles related to tiering the championships, Croke Park now it has settled itself on pursuing the tiered system in football appear to be using its match programmes to push that agenda as well.

Cunny Funt

Quote from: Owenmoresider on May 20, 2019, 04:36:07 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 20, 2019, 03:27:01 PM
Fair play to him. A lot of what he highlights also applies beyond hurling and football.
Better than what was in our programme yesterday, a pair of articles related to tiering the championships, Croke Park now it has settled itself on pursuing the tiered system in football appear to be using its match programmes to push that agenda as well.

It a big country wide road show done by HQ to get this football tiered system in place as soon as possible. The same thing was done to scrap the U21 championship and it was replaced by a poorer competition where the public have less interest in.

BennyCake

Most teams, managers and fans won't be in favour but they'll just follow what HQ tells them

So if most aren't in favour of tier 2, don't participate. You can't have a competition if there's no teams.

five points

Quote from: BennyCake on May 20, 2019, 05:37:01 PM
So if most aren't in favour of tier 2, don't participate. You can't have a competition if there's no teams.

That's exactly what happened the Tommy Murphy Cup.

lenny

Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 20, 2019, 02:33:52 PM
Westmeath chairman Billy Foley got his view across on the match day programme on Saturday. Food for thought there.


Totally agree with his sentiments. The second tier competition in hurling is a huge success for players, coaches and supporters. His only quibble is the lack of media coverage which is disappointing. While it's disappointing it doesn't stop the competition from being hugely enjoyable and satisfying for players and supporters because they're at the right level to develop.

Rossfan

Is the priority good competitive championships or media coverage?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Esmarelda

Quote from: Rossfan on May 20, 2019, 06:29:52 PM
Is the priority good competitive championships or media coverage?
Depends who you're asking.

Blowitupref

It's not just the lack of media coverage that is a problem for the hurling tiers but loads of good players from these tiered competitions in hurling don't tog out for their counties and the lack of support that goes to Christy Ring, Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher cup games  is low so i don't think that type of environment is something that needs to be copied in football.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

BennyCake

What's the ticket prices for Ring, Rackard etc?

Rossfan

Very few ever went to watch the Counties currently  in the Ring Rackard or Meagher Cups playing hurling.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Keyser soze

Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 20, 2019, 02:33:52 PM
Westmeath chairman Billy Foley got his view across on the match day programme on Saturday. Food for thought there.


The line about when the controversy ends they will lose interest encapsulates everything that is wrong with this debate and could equally be applied to the situation on here. Keyboard warriors bandwaggoning onto a cause and championing it until they see achieve 'success' for their 1 eyed point of view. Then move on to the next "issue".

It has nearly got to the stage where the GAA is being run by twitter.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM