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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #480 on: November 18, 2010, 11:08:40 PM »
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute
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« Reply #481 on: November 18, 2010, 11:10:03 PM »
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

Yea, his best position would be at Forest.
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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #482 on: November 18, 2010, 11:13:14 PM »
i would take him at the minute, play right wing with you at right back and him supplying the crosses for me at full, sorry, centre forward !!
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« Reply #483 on: November 19, 2010, 09:32:00 AM »
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

He's playing 'out of position' on the wing because when Everton tried him at RB he was found to be quite dodgy.

short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

The way I see his logic is this: The FB positions, along with finding Whelan a partner, are the team's biggest problems. Finding solutions to these problems will improve the team much more than slipping in a new right winger. So alternatives were tried at left and right back, behind the regular, experienced wingers. This way, the merits of Cunningham and Kelly could be properly evaluated. Sticking either in behind a complete novice would have compromised attempts to do this. Coleman will surely get a go next February, and most likely in front of O'Shea as to throw him in in front of anyone else would be similarly pointless.

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« Reply #484 on: November 20, 2010, 10:10:06 AM »
Disappointing not to see Coleman, but I suppose right wing isn't the most pressing concern at the minute. Both FB positions and the midfield are where the big problems lie, and a couple of new lads were tried in these spots. Cunningham should be pushing hard to displace Kilbane. Fahey looked better than Green, not that that was much of a task. Not sure about Kelly, he looks error prone. Would've liked to have seen Foley start instead.

Very hard to see many changes for the Macedonia game in March, but you've got to hope with all the friendlies next year that a few new fellas will be allowed to break through for the qualifier run in. The lads we have at present won't make it to 2012.

coleman is a right back. he is playing out of position with everton at the minute

He's playing 'out of position' on the wing because when Everton tried him at RB he was found to be quite dodgy.

short and simple I think trap doesnt like being told what to do and felt like the media were trying to pick his team and have coleman play - and as a result the stubborn old mule did the opposite.

The way I see his logic is this: The FB positions, along with finding Whelan a partner, are the team's biggest problems. Finding solutions to these problems will improve the team much more than slipping in a new right winger. So alternatives were tried at left and right back, behind the regular, experienced wingers. This way, the merits of Cunningham and Kelly could be properly evaluated. Sticking either in behind a complete novice would have compromised attempts to do this. Coleman will surely get a go next February, and most likely in front of O'Shea as to throw him in in front of anyone else would be similarly pointless.
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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #485 on: December 09, 2010, 02:51:34 PM »
Completely off topic, but does anyone know the name of the young Irish footballer who is going on trial to Real Madrid.  I read about it last week but can't find anything online about it.

We were talking earlier in work about football in general, and the topic cropped up on how the game has evolved over the past lock of years.  What was talked about was why is there a dearth of Irish talent coming through at the top level.  There seems to be a real lack of top class players coming out of the Country, and for a game that is played by the majority of young boys in Ireland then surely we should be producing more top class talent.  We got talking about why the standard or quality of player being produced in Ireland and in the UK in general is not as high as that produced by alot of other obvious strong footballing nations, as well as some less 'big' footballing nations.  Is this a by product of the modern game and how football is more about tactics and strategies now than ever before, are clubs turning their players into 'team players' from a young age at the expense of allowing flair to prevail.  Ireland and the rest of the British Isles have lots of structures in place at both club level and international level, but are the players being moulded into parts of a jigsaw from an early age now instead of allowing them to flourish creatively and make their own mistakes along the way.  Nowadays, it seems that there are more and more teams internationally and domestically who are well drilled sides filled with average players who are extremely fit and well organised, yet they lack any creative spark or the ability to do anything out of the ordinary.  These kind of teams are becoming more common, and to an extent they can be technically successful as they are hard to beat.  The current Ireland and Northern Ireland teams are examples of this, both teams bunged with average players with great levels of determination, grit and fitness.  But they have little else.  Whenever you watch a Republic or Northern Ireland game, you do not really expect them to actually score, well score too many.  If they do score it is usually from a free kick, corner or penalty.  How has this come about?  The Paddy McCourt situation is an example of flair being rendered unimportant.  He is a player that has something special, but he doesn't fit into the 21st century ideal of running about and working like a maniac without the ball.  Should footballers not be encouraged to do what they do best, can 'flair' players not be encouraged?  Why are there no footballers like Giggs or Best being produced anymore, is it being coached out of them from their early teens? 

We seem to have a lack of creative, technical midfield players coming through as well.  Growing up it seemed to be that the type of player to succeed was the fastest player, the mentality was that you had to try and beat a man, but it has become obvious now that while it is good to have a player who can do this, the key to a successful team is the player who can operate in refined spaces and pull the strings, a player with great control, touch, passing and vision.  Why is there none being produced here, is there too much focus from an early age on athleticism and strength as opposed to mastering the skills with the ball, or is the rise of Futsal the reason behind the countries outside the UK and Ireland bringing through more technically gifted players? 

 I made reference earlier to natural talent and flair being coached out of players once they join up with football teams at 11, 12 or 13.  This all came into my head as I was looking at the nationalities of alot of the Arsenal players last night, where alot of players are coming from non traditional footballing powerhouses, yet technically they are great.  Is it because of the lack of coaching structures that these countries are producing the players there that play as they have done all their youth or is there another reason?  I just find it hard to gauge that a country like Ireland, with large numbers playing football from an early age, produces a lack of real top class talent.  Everyone grew up playing in the streets and trying overhead kicks, stepovers and back heels, everybody knew someone who was amazingly gifted from a flair point of view, yet look at the national team and the national team over the last 10 years and all you have is average skilled footballers with work ethic.  Where is all the talent going, is it being coached out of them to fit into a certain style or tactic once they move to organised footballer teams in their teens?  Surely the average youngster in Ireland at 9 is as good as that in France or Holland? 
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« Reply #486 on: December 15, 2010, 11:27:45 PM »
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html

Ireland wants to play for Ireland again to help put Ireland in the shop window.

Whaddayous think?

Sounds like a wind up to me.
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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #487 on: December 15, 2010, 11:38:24 PM »
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2010/1215/irelands.html

Ireland wants to play for Ireland again to help put Ireland in the shop window.

Whaddayous think?

Sounds like a wind up to me.

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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #488 on: January 11, 2011, 05:01:53 PM »


Republic invite to expanded 'home nations'

The English FA has invited the Republic of Ireland to participate in a new look competition which would also include Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

England who originally turned down an invitation to participate in the Carling Nations Cup, are believed to be enthusiastic now about organising the five-team event which may begin in 2013.

The format has yet to be agreed, with a decision still to be made over the duration of tournament and whether or not the event will be staged at one venue.

The Carling Nations Cup involving the Republic of Ireland, Northern Ireland, Scotland & Wales kicks-off next month at the Aviva Stadium, with the concluding matches to be played at the same venue at the end of May.
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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #489 on: January 11, 2011, 05:44:55 PM »
Confirmation that the FAI and its soccer game are British  ;D
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Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on Euro 2012
« Reply #490 on: January 11, 2011, 06:50:57 PM »
Good idea to bring back the home nations tournament. hopefully they scrap the international friendlies now as they are a complete waste of time.
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« Reply #491 on: January 11, 2011, 06:54:45 PM »
Yeah I think its a great idea,nice that the Republic have been asked to play.
I think its a one off but it be nice if they had it every 2 or 3 years.
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« Reply #492 on: January 26, 2011, 10:26:52 PM »
Delighted for Carr and Fahy tonight hope they go on to win Carling Cup now,especially Carr always liked him.
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« Reply #493 on: January 28, 2011, 11:45:58 AM »
Why did Carr become one of the most disliked players (amongst fans) on the Irish team, when he did play?

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« Reply #494 on: January 28, 2011, 12:03:55 PM »
Why did Carr become one of the most disliked players (amongst fans) on the Irish team, when he did play?

My recollection is that he resigned from international football to concentrate on his club career quite early, I think around age 26-27.  He was never the most affable interviewee either.  :)
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