Incoming President favours a tiered championship structure

[Rossfan]

How much media coverage did Carlow V Leitrim get last year?
(Apart from SKY Facebook thingy)
How many of the 1st and 2nd round Qualifiers get more than 2,000 paying "patrons"?
Only for the Rhubarbs were dumped out of Connacht early the last 2 years it's doubtful the first 2 Rounds would have brought more than 20,000 to the 16 games.

How about 3 groups of 4 in Senior, top 2 in each plus Junior and Inter Champions play Qtr Finals?

[thewobbler]

Seanie our only limitation is not imagination. It's population.

And I'm guessing you are seriously overestimating the number of people who would watch Liatroim v Waterford playing a D3 championship match.

I reckon the combined TV audience and stadium attendance wouldn't fill a large nightclub.

Why would RTE, or any media outlet be interested in such things?

[FermGael]

You only have to look at the current tiered hurling championship .
That's has been what I would call a complete success.
Look at the way that the way the top 8 counties have come closer to the pack.
Great to see traditional hurling counties like Antrim and Offally back competing for the Liam McCarthy.
Not like Antrim were competing for a secondary competition that was over by the end of June on YouTube  before the top 8 teams really started playing.

Seriously be very careful what you wish for.
Tiering will not do anything for the teams below the top 8 but increase the gap.
Look at the diaster tieirng has been for hurling and how it has widened the gap.
Look at the way the gaa has treated the Christy Ring and the Rachard Cup and tell.me again how they will
promote an intermediate tier. Not a chance. A few years lip service and then it will be buried.

If the gaa wants to really close the gap then pool the sponsorship money and disburse it with the
teams in division 4 getting more than the division 1 teams on a sliding scale.

[Orchard park]

You only have to look at the current tiered hurling championship .
That's has been what I would call a complete success.
Look at the way that the way the top 8 counties have come closer to the pack.
Great to see traditional hurling counties like Antrim and Offally back competing for the Liam McCarthy.
Not like Antrim were competing for a secondary competition that was over by the end of June on YouTube  before the top 8 teams really started playing.

Seriously be very careful what you wish for.
Tiering will not do anything for the teams below the top 8 but increase the gap.
Look at the diaster tieirng has been for hurling and how it has widened the gap.
Look at the way the gaa has treated the Christy Ring and the Rachard Cup and tell.me again how they will
promote an intermediate tier. Not a chance. A few years lip service and then it will be buried.

If the gaa wants to really close the gap then pool the sponsorship money and disburse it with the
teams in division 4 getting more than the division 1 teams on a sliding scale.

So the only thing holding anyone back is money

[longballin]

You only have to look at the current tiered hurling championship .
That's has been what I would call a complete success.
Look at the way that the way the top 8 counties have come closer to the pack.
Great to see traditional hurling counties like Antrim and Offally back competing for the Liam McCarthy.
Not like Antrim were competing for a secondary competition that was over by the end of June on YouTube  before the top 8 teams really started playing.

Seriously be very careful what you wish for.
Tiering will not do anything for the teams below the top 8 but increase the gap.
Look at the diaster tieirng has been for hurling and how it has widened the gap.
Look at the way the gaa has treated the Christy Ring and the Rachard Cup and tell.me again how they will
promote an intermediate tier. Not a chance. A few years lip service and then it will be buried.

If the gaa wants to really close the gap then pool the sponsorship money and disburse it with the
teams in division 4 getting more than the division 1 teams on a sliding scale.

WTF!! so we untier the hurling and look forward to Kilkenny V Fermanagh... 

[FermGael]

Absolutely not .
Organisation is probably the key but money helps that organisation.
I would imagine the division 1 counties would also have the largest expenditure of gaa teams per annum.

[FermGael]

You only have to look at the current tiered hurling championship .
That's has been what I would call a complete success.
Look at the way that the way the top 8 counties have come closer to the pack.
Great to see traditional hurling counties like Antrim and Offally back competing for the Liam McCarthy.
Not like Antrim were competing for a secondary competition that was over by the end of June on YouTube  before the top 8 teams really started playing.

Seriously be very careful what you wish for.
Tiering will not do anything for the teams below the top 8 but increase the gap.
Look at the diaster tieirng has been for hurling and how it has widened the gap.
Look at the way the gaa has treated the Christy Ring and the Rachard Cup and tell.me again how they will
promote an intermediate tier. Not a chance. A few years lip service and then it will be buried.

If the gaa wants to really close the gap then pool the sponsorship money and disburse it with the
teams in division 4 getting more than the division 1 teams on a sliding scale.

WTF!! so we untier the hurling and look forward to Kilkenny V Fermanagh... 

We were told at the time that tiering hurling would help the middle tier counties.
Has it ?
It has done the complete opposite.

[longballin]

You only have to look at the current tiered hurling championship .
That's has been what I would call a complete success.
Look at the way that the way the top 8 counties have come closer to the pack.
Great to see traditional hurling counties like Antrim and Offally back competing for the Liam McCarthy.
Not like Antrim were competing for a secondary competition that was over by the end of June on YouTube  before the top 8 teams really started playing.

Seriously be very careful what you wish for.
Tiering will not do anything for the teams below the top 8 but increase the gap.
Look at the diaster tieirng has been for hurling and how it has widened the gap.
Look at the way the gaa has treated the Christy Ring and the Rachard Cup and tell.me again how they will
promote an intermediate tier. Not a chance. A few years lip service and then it will be buried.

If the gaa wants to really close the gap then pool the sponsorship money and disburse it with the
teams in division 4 getting more than the division 1 teams on a sliding scale.

WTF!! so we untier the hurling and look forward to Kilkenny V Fermanagh... 

We were told at the time that tiering hurling would help the middle tier counties.
Has it ?
It has done the complete opposite.

untiering it would lead to the shambles the football is.

[trailer]

Teams must earn the right to play at the top table. No one is out crying asking for Oxford Utd to be let into the Champions League. The worst 20 teams must sort themselves out. Patrons want to watch the best teams, playing each other in meaningful games in the summer.

No-one wants to watch Waterford V Leitrim no matter how much money you throw at, nor how much TV coverage you give it. If these two sides were in the backyard playing most people wouldn't open the curtains. Therein is the problem. We're trying to sell games no-one cares about.

[FermGael]

Teams must earn the right to play at the top table. No one is out crying asking for Oxford Utd to be let into the Champions League. The worst 20 teams must sort themselves out. Patrons want to watch the best teams, playing each other in meaningful games in the summer.

No-one wants to watch Waterford V Leitrim no matter how much money you throw at, nor how much TV coverage you give it. If these two sides were in the backyard playing most people wouldn't open the curtains. Therein is the problem. We're trying to sell games no-one cares about.

Meaningful games....
Being honest we have had one meaningful game for the past 3 seasons
Dublin v Mayo

[Syferus]

You only have to look at the current tiered hurling championship .
That's has been what I would call a complete success.
Look at the way that the way the top 8 counties have come closer to the pack.
Great to see traditional hurling counties like Antrim and Offally back competing for the Liam McCarthy.
Not like Antrim were competing for a secondary competition that was over by the end of June on YouTube  before the top 8 teams really started playing.

Seriously be very careful what you wish for.
Tiering will not do anything for the teams below the top 8 but increase the gap.
Look at the diaster tieirng has been for hurling and how it has widened the gap.
Look at the way the gaa has treated the Christy Ring and the Rachard Cup and tell.me again how they will
promote an intermediate tier. Not a chance. A few years lip service and then it will be buried.

If the gaa wants to really close the gap then pool the sponsorship money and disburse it with the
teams in division 4 getting more than the division 1 teams on a sliding scale.

WTF!! so we untier the hurling and look forward to Kilkenny V Fermanagh... 

We were told at the time that tiering hurling would help the middle tier counties.
Has it ?
It has done the complete opposite.

untiering it would lead to the shambles the football is.

Football is far healthier than hurling. Only a half dozen or so counties even care about hurling at this stage.

[armaghniac]

You only have to look at the current tiered hurling championship .
That's has been what I would call a complete success.
Look at the way that the way the top 8 counties have come closer to the pack.
Great to see traditional hurling counties like Antrim and Offally back competing for the Liam McCarthy.
Not like Antrim were competing for a secondary competition that was over by the end of June on YouTube  before the top 8 teams really started playing.

Seriously be very careful what you wish for.
Tiering will not do anything for the teams below the top 8 but increase the gap.
Look at the diaster tieirng has been for hurling and how it has widened the gap.
Look at the way the gaa has treated the Christy Ring and the Rachard Cup and tell.me again how they will
promote an intermediate tier. Not a chance. A few years lip service and then it will be buried.

If the gaa wants to really close the gap then pool the sponsorship money and disburse it with the
teams in division 4 getting more than the division 1 teams on a sliding scale.

WTF!! so we untier the hurling and look forward to Kilkenny V Fermanagh... 

We were told at the time that tiering hurling would help the middle tier counties.
Has it ?
It has done the complete opposite.

untiering it would lead to the shambles the football is.

Football is far healthier than hurling. Only a half dozen or so counties even care about hurling at this stage.

Cork, Limerick, Clare, Galway, Tipp, Kilkenny, Waterford and Wexford both care and might beat each other.

[Syferus]

You only have to look at the current tiered hurling championship .
That's has been what I would call a complete success.
Look at the way that the way the top 8 counties have come closer to the pack.
Great to see traditional hurling counties like Antrim and Offally back competing for the Liam McCarthy.
Not like Antrim were competing for a secondary competition that was over by the end of June on YouTube  before the top 8 teams really started playing.

Seriously be very careful what you wish for.
Tiering will not do anything for the teams below the top 8 but increase the gap.
Look at the diaster tieirng has been for hurling and how it has widened the gap.
Look at the way the gaa has treated the Christy Ring and the Rachard Cup and tell.me again how they will
promote an intermediate tier. Not a chance. A few years lip service and then it will be buried.

If the gaa wants to really close the gap then pool the sponsorship money and disburse it with the
teams in division 4 getting more than the division 1 teams on a sliding scale.

WTF!! so we untier the hurling and look forward to Kilkenny V Fermanagh... 

We were told at the time that tiering hurling would help the middle tier counties.
Has it ?
It has done the complete opposite.

untiering it would lead to the shambles the football is.

Football is far healthier than hurling. Only a half dozen or so counties even care about hurling at this stage.

Cork, Limerick, Clare, Galway, Tipp, Kilkenny, Waterford and Wexford both care and might beat each other.

And yet no one outside those counties really cares a jot. Just look at the state of the hurling board here if you want some anecdotal evidence.

[Rossfan]

How come no County has just a single Club Championship?

[Farrandeelin]

Teams must earn the right to play at the top table. No one is out crying asking for Oxford Utd to be let into the Champions League. The worst 20 teams must sort themselves out. Patrons want to watch the best teams, playing each other in meaningful games in the summer.

No-one wants to watch Waterford V Leitrim no matter how much money you throw at, nor how much TV coverage you give it. If these two sides were in the backyard playing most people wouldn't open the curtains. Therein is the problem. We're trying to sell games no-one cares about.

So you're basically reinforcing FermGael's point of view by saying nobody will care about a third tier in your second paragraph.