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Vatican 2 changed the way mass was celebrated,mass in Latin (still remember acting as Altar server during these) and a few other cosmetic changes for ecumenical purposes.It did not change core doctrine.

One must also remember that the Pope,being the proxy of Christ on earth,is constantly the receptacle of Divine inspiration and enlightenment,so any alterations he makes are divinely inspired

What about Slavery Tony ?
The Church not only explicitly condoned slavery and allowed it in Canon Law, but the Church actually owned slaves itself. The Church did not get around to condemning it until 1888 decades after most secular governments had already abolished it. Despite the fact that the Bible and the Church condoned it for centuries, John Paul II included slavery among matters that are ''intrinsically evil'' -- prohibited ''always and forever'' and ''without any exception'' -- a violation of a universal, immutable norm.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2005/05/22/books/review/a-church-that-can-and-cannot-change-dogma.html?referer=

Historically, one of the most prominent examples of the Church changing its teaching was in the matter of usury, or charging interest on loans. The early Church forbad interest on loans, much in the same way Islam does today. But the teaching was eventually softened to state that exorbitant interest was forbidden.



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There has been changes in format but core doctrine has never changed nor can it be.

Cough - Vatican 2 - cough

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Magpie Seanie,it is the role of this and any other Pope to defend and promote Catholic doctrine,which is timeless and unchangeable.This Pope may be more unconventional than his immediate predecessors but I have detected no divergence from doctrine.

I do not know what is so hard to understand about the fact that the Church's mission is to save souls not win popularity,therefore it simply cannot change its scripture based stance on homosexuality,abortion etc just to be "compassionate" or "popular"

So Vatican 2 was an illusion then Tony ?

You are some chancer!

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I have seen the Pope that often in Rome,that I doubt I could be bothered with all the hassle (traffic,crowds,security etc) when he comes here.His visit here is akin to a football pre season friendly,no comparison when you've seen him in serious mode on his home turf.

So in effect you admit that those who go to see el papa in the north on his visit are getting a lesser papal experience than you have experienced in Rome ?
Similar to someone going to see Queen without Freddie Mercury, yes ?
Do you leave trip advisor reviews of each time you see him in Rome ?

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General discussion / Re: The Official Daddies Club
« on: December 17, 2017, 07:53:44 PM »
I'm now only half in this club folks. Just became a Granda

Good man Dougal!

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Just heard this the other day, confronting to say the least , but a brilliant tune all the same
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f4WfDafHijY

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General discussion / Re: Arlene sings for NI AID
« on: December 05, 2017, 06:59:12 PM »
That's not anger :)

Passive aggression is just another form of anger, AZ.

Itís ok syfus, I can see whatís happening here- you are projecting your own passive aggression into others as a means of seeking acceptance from those you consider stronger members of the group - itís often seen as the only way perceived conflict ( often where there actually is no conflict ...) can be resolved.
You have some deep rooted issues man. For your own sake you should get some help. Lifeís good stop being an angry man and enjoy it.
Following a cult like the blue shirts will not help either.

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General discussion / Re: 5 Sams - RIP
« on: December 03, 2017, 04:16:54 AM »
Very sad , one of the few original crew members from when I used to lurk and not post in 2002/3 ish
RIP 5 Sams, hope the tunes are pumping where you are now .

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If this thread is allowed to stay I'm utterly disgusted.

Itís been 2 days since you posted.

On a scale of 1 to ex Garda commissioner Callinan how disgusted are you   :D

As an aside ,I have to say that Iím disgusted at your abysmal punctuation .
Must try harder syferus.

You'd think someone with his mad hacking skills could find a way to delete the thread. The self-proclaimed King of the Internet.

Standard blue shirt MO from Syferious, huff & puff but no real substance to the huff & puff at the end.

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If this thread is allowed to stay I'm utterly disgusted.

Itís been 2 days since you posted.

On a scale of 1 to ex Garda commissioner Callinan how disgusted are you   :D

As an aside ,I have to say that Iím disgusted at your abysmal punctuation .
Must try harder syferus.

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General discussion / Re: Bob Geldof
« on: November 14, 2017, 02:40:34 AM »
Deserves a thread of its own, I think.

Am I being a begrudger or is he really an insufferable West Brit bollox?

He's right. The treatment of the Rohingya is horrific. As usual we Irish have to indulge in whataboutery and make it about his Knighthood. Of course the Shinners in council more worried about flying a Catalan flag than Rohingya babies burned alive.

How do you figure that?

Anyway Geldof is a **** , an utter utter west Brit ****.
The image of him flopping around the Thames been a **** to the fishermen during brexit speaks volumes, him and Farage having a bun fight is the proverbial 2 bald men arguing over a comb.

A Blackrock boy to the core, the f**king Jesuits have a f**king lot to answer for. Geldof is the very definition of an elitist "look at me and do what I say ****"

I notice he is happy to hang onto his KBE and ignore the human rights abuses that are welded to that particular gong by association.

Like I said a **** .

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General discussion / Re: The Great Tracker Mortgages Robbery
« on: October 23, 2017, 12:29:40 PM »
and the planned economy worked out great in eastern Europe at least capitalism had a built in recovery system where as communism collapsed
but  no what im  asking is  what crime was committed . the bank should operate within whatever laws are in force not what ever popular injustices that the newspapers discussions boards or politicians will be make them sound like they are on the side of the people .
had I tracker and gave it up I would consider that stupid by me unless things had turned out differently and trackers been a disaster . would people be then squealing for relief from them?

What was that?

Yeah what is the recovery system ? Really keen to know?
Anyway I'm seeing lots of headlines about swift settlement and compensation payouts before Christmas.
Now maybe I'm reading this wrong but if you agree to pay compo aren't you in effect admitting guilt ? And if you admit guilt aren't you admitting that you have operated beyond the boundaries stipulated for your industry and in doing so you have adversely and materially negatively affected others.

Or just plain broke the law.

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General discussion / Re: The Great Tracker Mortgages Robbery
« on: October 23, 2017, 11:39:06 AM »
So you want light touch regulation ? That worked out before for us didn't it......

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General discussion / Re: The Great Tracker Mortgages Robbery
« on: October 21, 2017, 08:47:10 PM »

Why is this not a criminal investigation?
Because that's the way things are done in Ireland
White collar crime is a mere transgression
Working class crime of any description-TV licence, dog licence, etc - are horrendous heinous acts that must simply be made an example of.
Low hanging fruit to use a ridiculous management speak anology

The people who have their fingerprints all over the tracker mortgage scam won't see a day inside a courthouse let alone a cell, anyone remember Anglo?
A few of "the lads" had a little scholarship in Loughin house for 3or 4 months- garlic man got longer in Portlaoise.

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General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: October 16, 2017, 08:23:44 PM »
You can also get banned for shite attempts at humour😂😂
If they looked at your twitter you wouldn't be allowed on the plane to Glasgow never mind into the ground  ;D

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