NFL Division 1 2024

[Ball Hopper]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

[armaghniac]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

and much the same pattern in 2025!

[Captain Obvious]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

[JoG2]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

Do you not think, with the setups within County teams these days this isn't factored in? These extremely well conditioned athletes do not play more than 1 game in a week, then recover.

[Captain Obvious]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

Do you not think, with the setups within County teams these days this isn't factored in? These extremely well conditioned athletes do not play more than 1 game in a week, then recover.

All conditioning in the world doesn't make amateur footballers become robots. Glen players on the go non stop for club and county in the business end of competitions the last two years.

[JoG2]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

Do you not think, with the setups within County teams these days this isn't factored in? These extremely well conditioned athletes do not play more than 1 game in a week, then recover.

All conditioning in the world doesn't make amateur footballers become robots. Glen players on the go non stop for club and county in the business end of competitions the last two years.

What are you on about, robots?! A game a week, they're hardly going down the coal mines

[Tyrone Dreamer]

How many games are the Glen lads playing in a year? It's probably less than some of the UUJ players who played Sigerson and McKenna Cup matches? I know they got a break last year after the county season so I'm assuming they played no more than 10 games in the run out of Derry? Then 5 games to win the All Ireland?

Assuming they play the national league that's 8 maximum? 3 then in ulster and another 6 to get to All Ireland final?

So if Derry got to league and All Ireland final they'll have played 32 games in a year?

[Mario]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

Every team goes out to win every match. Every D1 team picks the strongest team they have available to them, maybe with the exception of Dublin who have rested a couple (i think). At the start of the year if you offered any D1 manager the chance to win all league games they would take it. So i always laugh at people saying 'aiming to reach a league final' or going all out for the league', they all are until they can't.

Glen got to an AI final last year too, Derry got to a league final, won a tough ulster champ, were still playing in July and lost the AI semi because they missed too many chances. It's more likely than not Derry won't win the AI, and there will be a queue of people lining up to blame their league form but it will have nothing to do with it. Players are capable of playing once a week in 3 week blocks. Sports science is there to manage training loads.

The season has changed now and games come thick and fast, you don't have a month between champ games to work on things. I'd much rather have momentum going into ulster and the group stages than hoping we miraculously find form in June/July.

[Captain Obvious]

Some counties main objective is staying up in Division 1 and anything else is a bonus. Kerry and Derry bringing back the Clifford brothers and Glen players back so soon is a clear message that their objective is to win the league title and then carry that form into the championship.

Harte has joined up with Derry to win the All-Ireland title and IMO they'll likely have a better chance of achieving that feat in 2025 should Glen get an early exit from the Derry or Ulster this autumn/winter.

[GTP]

Some counties main objective is staying up in Division 1 and anything else is a bonus. Kerry and Derry bringing back the Clifford brothers and Glen players back so soon is a clear message that their objective is to win the league title and then carry that form into the championship.

Harte has joined up with Derry to win the All-Ireland title and IMO they'll likely have a better chance of achieving that feat in 2025 should Glen get an early exit from the Derry or Ulster this autumn/winter.

Could Derry and Kerry's ojective in bringing the players back early be to gain enough points to stay up and rest them towards the end of the league?
And presuming that both counties ultimate objective is to win an All Ireland in 2024 why would they bring the players back so soon if they believed it would lessen the chances of this happening?

[shawshank]

Derry and Kerry are not like for like. Harte had to put his best foot forward, due to the nature of defection. A new man in, winning and everyone is on a crest. Kerry third year with Jack, won the league and championship in year one. Getting back to that format after an average year last season. Good leagues generally means your in the final shake up in the championship

[seafoid]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

David Clifford was burnt out by the time of last year's all Ireland final.

[Mario]

If Dublin get on a bit of a run by beating Kerry this weekend, we could see the Div 2 final last year having the same teams as the Div 1 final this year.

And the same two in the 2024 All-Ireland Final isn't out of the question either.

Dublin look like a team just happy enough to stay up and if they get within a point or two of Kerry this weekend they'll expect to beat them come championship time.

Kerry, Derry are two above others aiming to reach the league final. Will be interesting to see what shape Derry are in come the business end of the championship, All-Ireland winning manager on board however the mileage in legs of the Glen players are sure to show by then.

David Clifford was burnt out by the time of last year's all Ireland final.

Ha no he wasn't he just hit a few wides. I wish he'd burnt out 2 weeks earlier.

[seafoid]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

[Mario]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

What about 2022?