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what sort of money are the top afl players on

Millions of Aussie dollars between contract and sponsorships. McKenna is in the top 10 best players at his club so big money would have been on the horizon. He's mad in the head moving home if he's just homesick. If there is something else more serious then it's totally understandable to come home.

I don't think he is anywhere near earning millions of Aussie Dollars. But he would still be earning good money. But life isn't all about money and it sounds like he's been struggling out there for a long time. 5 years is a long time for a lad to go away from home if he's not happy. You can't put a price tag for example on spending time with family and friends. Hopefully he makes the decision which is best for himself. If he does want home hopefully he can get a good education and job. It would be great to see him back in a Tyrone shirt.

Forget about him playing for anyone other than Essendon in the immediate future, he's definitely playing for them again when the season starts. Hopefully see him with Tyrone at some stage but won't be happening while he is still under contract which runs til the 2021 season.

a large number of tyrone clubs entered into the ulster league this year, not sure if there has ever been so many

Cookstown setting their stall out early i see going to the ulster junior section. Surely theyd be fit for Ulster intermediate league if they had any ambitions of making an inroads in division 3 this year. Typical enough of them i suppose.

Ive said it before on here and I will say it again, I think its just time to scrap reserve football in Tyrone. 

I would have previously said that the county board didn't give a fcuk about reserve football / players but fair play to them on this occasion in that they had really put in some effort to come up with a viable and exciting solution / proposal to what was a dying competition.  I had no idea though that the clubs themselves are the real ones who do not give a toss about reserve football or essentially their reserve players.  That's what it has boiled down to here.  Elitism in the GAA once again takes hold.  I find it ironic that clubs crib and cry about elitism when it comes to club vs county matters but they have done the same with their own players on this occasion    

At the end of the day, the reserve team is considered a burden, lets be honest, nobody really says it but it is.  A lot of clubs now have outside managers and the only priority is the senior team.  Bit like the premier league, the managers will be judged on the senior teams performance & results, not what the ressies are doing.  The managers themselves have enough on their plate without worrying about his 24 year old reserve corner back who can barely solo or his 16 stone corner forward who is gassed out after 3 runs, they just dont want the hassle of it and I think thats why so many clubs have opted against the new proposals.  Its new, it requires change and will require more effort which they aren't prepared to make.  People do not like change. 

Last night was a chance to perhaps save it and make it a competition where clubs and reserve players could find their level with the prospects of promotion / relegation.  It could have finally been a meaningful competition for the lesser / older and developing players within clubs.  Maybe give some of them more a sense of purpose playing in a separate competition. It could have shone a light in terms of social media coverage on a new competition and the lesser players within clubs might have got the chance to see their picture or name on a match report in some of the local papers or teamtalk.  As some other poster alluded to, Moy reserves in division 1 is a waste of everyone's time from the players to the management,the spectators to the referee.

Time to put a pin in this shambles of a competition, its done.

If its such a shambles of a competition why was there as many at the reserve game between Ardboe and Coalisland as youd see at manys a senior championship game last year? As has been pointed out you are a clown.

If proposals go through tonight no one will be relegated. The change to 4 divisions means no team will be relegated this year.

Incorrect, 2 would be relegated from Div 2 and 6 would be promoted from div 3 or they may opt to go with 1 relegated and 5 promoted but there will def be relegation.

Sorry but it's you that's  incorrect. Was stated numerous times at the meeting that there would be no relegation this year. Division 2 will be made up of bottom 8 teams in Division 2, JFC championship winners and top 3 in Junior. Division 3 will be made up of bottom 12 in Division 3 this year.
There may be a counter proposal tonight regarding this from a club but that is the proposal from CCC

The teams currently in Division 1 who end up in the new Division 1B will definitely view that as a relegation

Wasn't many Tyrone men talking about the pics of Mickey harte and the new woman.

Hearing this, Early 30's I have been told. Talk of the building site this last week or more

Joe being shown up for what he is. No integrity at all. The poor wee old men lying up in the hospital beds will be devastated. I really did not think he would do it.

Has to find some way of keeping himself relevant.

[What is Barton (a specialist in failure) up to?]

Who's over Edendork this year? What is Barton (a specialist in failure) up to?

Turned down Ballinderry by all accounts. Must be taking a year off.

Wouldn't say Barton is a specialist in failure. His list of clubs has some of the biggest teams in Ulster - Burren, Ballinderry, Loup, Slaughtneil plus UUJ and Derry. Not every team wins but surely he must be decent if he has coached all them calibre of teams. I totally agree that if success is measured on medals then he has failed but has he left the clubs in a better place than when he arrived - that is the key of a good manager.
If you don't take into account the 5 starred games which realistic Edendork would struggle to win w/o their county men then they are playing for a total of 20 points. Tough to stay in Div 1 when you need to get 10/12 points out of 20 in which you are competitive in. Got them 4 championship victories in 2 seasons which is not bad either.

Had heard he turned down 2 Div1 clubs in Tyrone also along with Ballinderry who thought they had him in the bag for the 2020 season

Gets a lot of sh*t, especially here but he's a good football man. Rarely hear a bad word about him from anyone at any club he's ever been at.

Aye what a great interpretation from the pair of youse. He has taken a nice wage from Edendork and left them in a lower division than where he started. I doubt they'll be too worried about whether he is a "good football man". Just another in a long line of managers who hop from club to club seeking a small fortune. Is a laughing stock in his own county because of it

[2 youth games a day then a Senior the following]

What's up with these east Tyrone clubs not providing refs?

Sure what would possess a man to be a ref these days with the shite they have to listen to and the 49 new rules from when they played the game

A nice wee cheque for 5/6/7/8 grand a week before Xmas.

Surely you would have to do a serious amount of games for that kind of money?

Doesn't be long adding up, you could maybe do 2 youth games a day then a Senior the following. Not many refs as you say.

No idea, think I heard once 25 junior / 35 adult. Someone more knowledgeable would be able to tell us.

There is a reason Martin Sludden and Martin Hurson etc take  u16 and u18 games.

So if you give up Wednesday night, and your entire weekend for 26 weeks of the year you could get £2900.

I'll Pass, Thanks

Completely agree, however I fail to see how to make it more appealing to people unless we offer them £45 at least for a game. Will cost the average club an extra £150/year for adult games and an extra £600 for youth games (assuming home team pays, and 12 games per year at each under age level)

No idea, think I heard once 25 junior / 35 adult. Someone more knowledgeable would be able to tell us.

There is a reason Martin Sludden and Martin Hurson etc take  u16 and u18 games.

I think it could be Sean Hurson you are refering to

[Gilligan at 11 raises other eyebrows. Class club player , who although played County level for a long time, never excelled.]

I've just seen the team that Cahair decided upon.
He's gone for McKeever at CHB, but then left out a few of the other players from '93 that were still playing at the start of the 00's ie Tohill, Downey, Brolly.
This is the team he selected:
1. B Gillis
2. K McGuckin
3. K McCloy
4. SM Lockhart
5. P McFlynn
6. K McKeever
7. SL McGoldrick
8. F Doherty
9. Patsy Bradley
10. J McBride
11. C Gilligan
12. M Lynch
13. Paddy Bradley
14. E Muldoon
15. E Bradley

Wouldn't have Kieran mcKeever anywhere near 6. For all my time watching derry, I never saw him play there once. Gilligan at 11 raises other eyebrows. Class club player , who although played County  level for a long time, never excelled. Maybe Kieran's positioning at number 6 shows our lack of other options.

Your hole, Gilligan was always a 3/4 points a game man. You are correct about him being a class club player, but there is no doubting he is the top 6 forward in the county in this past 20 years

Strange Killyclogher hasn't been filled yet, they are a really good team full of potential.

Considering they had 3 management Teams last year its hardey surprising. Hard too work with and a lot of prima donnas to keep on board

John Rafferty to Donaghmore. Previously managed St Galls to AI Club final in '06, Rostrevor and Bellaghy of note and was an assistant to Joe Kernan with Armagh too

Any Tyrone clubs chance their arm and try to poach Jim Gavin?
Long shot for some maybe

Just as well Jim Gaviin stepped down Top of the Soil, the connecting of Malachy O'Rorke to every job was proving fruitless, another few months of this ahead no doubt.

A quick one (bound to have missed out a couple)

                                    Barry Gillis

Kevin McGuckin      Sean Marty  Gerard O'Kane

Sean Leo McGoldrick Henry Downey Chrissy McKaigue

                       Anthony Tohill Fergal Doc

Eoin Bradley        Mark Lynch          Enda Lynn

Joe Brolly          Enda Muldoon       Paddy Bradley   

No Conleith Gilligan?

Donaghmore about to pay the man who just missed out on Clonoe job serious money....

How much is serious money nowadays?

Going rate for a D1 manager payment can be anything from 12k to 25k. Depending on club and manager involved.

25k for one man? Seems like an awful amount of money. How much would the likes of McBride be getting in Errigal? And does it come with a championship clause?

Seems stupid errigal paying anyone at all to manage them considering there resources. For a club to pay someone whilst having probably the greatest player to ever play the game at there club seems silly.

Agree, however there is no point opening that can of worms. I have just learnt not to expect anything simple by Errigal. With men like Canavan, the Hartes, O'Roarke, and a rack of other men with valuable experience on the pitch and on the line, you'd think they can find someone within their own ranks that could step up?

Don't forget Enda McGinley. He took them to back to back minor championships in 17 and 18, surely the logical step would be for him to take the senior job and help bring these boys through. He managed Swatragh this year so time mustn't be an issue for him.

Time maybe isnt an issue, but doubt Errigal would be interested in giving him the figures he asked certain Armagh club for or got from Swatragh