Money, Dublin and the GAA

[armaghniac]

The manager is one thing, what about the players, they took part?
What about the venue?

[dublin7]

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-on-behalf-of-management-committee

Dublin GAA acknowledge that, following an investigation this afternoon, there was a breach of Covid-19 guidelines yesterday morning.

The County Management Committee have suspended Dublin Senior Football manager Dessie Farrell for 12 weeks with immediate effect.

The Dublin senior football management and players recognise that this was a serious error of judgement and apologise unreservedly for their actions.

Dublin GAA Management Committee

At least Dessie is taking his medicine and isn't brazen enough to appeal the punishment. They must have been training for a while (like other counties) to have a photographer out there at that hour morning of the morning to catch them. Can't have any complaints and at least they dealt with it quickly and decisively

[dublin7]

The manager is one thing, what about the players, they took part?
What about the venue?

The Down/Cork players weren't suspended so why would you suspend the Dublin players? To call for the club to be punished is way over the top.

[Lar Naparka]

This story about Dublin caught out training is a storm in a tea cup. Outdoor activities is as low risk as you can get. The month of March should have been used for inter County training with the leagues played in April.

That would have given us May, June, July and August to play club or Inter County championships.

You can't be serious! Why bother with Covid restrictions at all if individuals or organisations can set their own rules on the hoof? Don't you think the month of March would have been put to better use if it was deemed in the public interest to do so?

[Captain Obvious]

That isn't the issue

The issue is the rule breaking - public safety during Covid is made up of many millions of individual decisions - and example is everything - and it seems that in the GAA, the rule breaking as regards Covid is an epidemic in itself

This means that the GAA has in effect become a rogue organisation promoting the breaking of restrictions which are there for public safety in a pandemic, and that is a very serious situation

Last week there was widespread anger at what happened at the Beacon hospital

There was widespread anger at Golfgate and the Storey funeral

Why not here?

Why shouldn't there be accountability here?

This is as much an example of the elite believing the rules don't apply to them as Beacongate, Golfgate and Storeygate

Why shouldn't there be a serious reckoning for the GAA over this given that the GAA as an organisation is taking the piss and acting against public safety?

Already this evening we've had Tomas O'Se on RTE plámásing over this

Ah, shure yerra, the lads all come from good families

My point is there should be no issue in regards to outdoor activities. Roll out of vaccines is story worth running with. Golfgate was a gathering indoors and this virus spreads the most indoors.

Dessie Farrell suspended for 12 weeks for these breach of guidelines will that suspension hold? they rarely do with Dublin

You can't be serious! Why bother with Covid restrictions at all if individuals or organisations can set their own rules on the hoof? Don't you think the month of March would have been put to better use if it was deemed in the public interest to do so?

Those restrictions weren't needed. Would be in the public interest to have as much outdoor activity as possible in March. It would have resulted in far fewer indoor cluster outbreaks.

[sid waddell]

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-on-behalf-of-management-committee

Dublin GAA acknowledge that, following an investigation this afternoon, there was a breach of Covid-19 guidelines yesterday morning.

The County Management Committee have suspended Dublin Senior Football manager Dessie Farrell for 12 weeks with immediate effect.

The Dublin senior football management and players recognise that this was a serious error of judgement and apologise unreservedly for their actions.

Dublin GAA Management Committee

John Costello has some neck on him!

I think Costello is the one with most questions to answer and suspending Farrell is designed to protect him

[sid waddell]

This story about Dublin caught out training is a storm in a tea cup. Outdoor activities is as low risk as you can get. The month of March should have been used for inter County training with the leagues played in April.

That would have given us June, July and August to play club or Inter County championships.

That isn't the issue

The issue is the rule breaking - public safety during Covid is made up of many millions of individual decisions - and example is everything - and it seems that in the GAA, the rule breaking as regards Covid is an epidemic in itself

This means that the GAA has in effect become a rogue organisation promoting the breaking of restrictions which are there for public safety in a pandemic, and that is a very serious situation

Last week there was widespread anger at what happened at the Beacon hospital

There was widespread anger at Golfgate and the Storey funeral

Why not here?

Why shouldn't there be accountability here?

This is as much an example of the elite believing the rules don't apply to them as Beacongate, Golfgate and Storeygate

Why shouldn't there be a serious reckoning for the GAA over this given that the GAA as an organisation is taking the piss and acting against public safety?

Already this evening we've had Tomas O'Se on RTE plámásing over this

Ah, shure yerra, the lads all come from good families

My point is there should be no issue in regards to outdoor activities. Roll out of vaccines is story worth running with. Golfgate was a gathering indoors and this virus spreads the most indoors.

Dessie Farrell suspended for 12 weeks for these breach of guidelines will that suspension hold? they rarely do with Dublin

But that is not the issue

You are entitled to an opinion on whether you like the rules or not, but the fact is, neither you nor Dublin GAA make the rules, the rules are clear and Dublin broke them

And Dublin are far from alone within the GAA in breaking them

Dublin were encouraged to break them because other teams got away with a tut tut and a gentle slap on the wrist from the GAA

This is a systemic problem within the GAA and it has serious negative implications for Ireland's ability to fight this pandemic

[Tubberman]

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-on-behalf-of-management-committee

Dublin GAA acknowledge that, following an investigation this afternoon, there was a breach of Covid-19 guidelines yesterday morning.

The County Management Committee have suspended Dublin Senior Football manager Dessie Farrell for 12 weeks with immediate effect.

The Dublin senior football management and players recognise that this was a serious error of judgement and apologise unreservedly for their actions.

Dublin GAA Management Committee

John Costello has some neck on him!

I think Costello is the one with most questions to answer and suspending Farrell is designed to protect him

I wouldn't be surprised if the Dublin county board have decided to impose their own suspension so they can start it from now, hoping that HQ won't bother imposing their own ban which would start from the return to competitive action. I hope they don't get away with that shite.

[dublin7]

This story about Dublin caught out training is a storm in a tea cup. Outdoor activities is as low risk as you can get. The month of March should have been used for inter County training with the leagues played in April.

That would have given us June, July and August to play club or Inter County championships.

That isn't the issue

The issue is the rule breaking - public safety during Covid is made up of many millions of individual decisions - and example is everything - and it seems that in the GAA, the rule breaking as regards Covid is an epidemic in itself

This means that the GAA has in effect become a rogue organisation promoting the breaking of restrictions which are there for public safety in a pandemic, and that is a very serious situation

Last week there was widespread anger at what happened at the Beacon hospital

There was widespread anger at Golfgate and the Storey funeral

Why not here?

Why shouldn't there be accountability here?

This is as much an example of the elite believing the rules don't apply to them as Beacongate, Golfgate and Storeygate

Why shouldn't there be a serious reckoning for the GAA over this given that the GAA as an organisation is taking the piss and acting against public safety?

Already this evening we've had Tomas O'Se on RTE plámásing over this

Ah, shure yerra, the lads all come from good families

My point is there should be no issue in regards to outdoor activities. Roll out of vaccines is story worth running with. Golfgate was a gathering indoors and this virus spreads the most indoors.

Dessie Farrell suspended for 12 weeks for these breach of guidelines will that suspension hold? they rarely do with Dublin

Dublin county board handed out the 12 week ban. If it was GAA HQ it would have been 8 weeks.

While county boards/clubs all over the country seem to automatically appeal red cards I don't think Dessie will be appealing this. He'll have already met/spoke with the county board following the story this morning

[sid waddell]

The manager is one thing, what about the players, they took part?
What about the venue?

The Down/Cork players weren't suspended so why would you suspend the Dublin players? To call for the club to be punished is way over the top.

They should have been suspended and there should have been much greater consequences for Cork and Down in general

And the GAA now have to make an example of Dublin, because lack of consequences encourages all teams within the GAA to break the rules, and encourages everybody in society to break the rules

You have to draw a line

[Armagh18]

This story about Dublin caught out training is a storm in a tea cup. Outdoor activities is as low risk as you can get. The month of March should have been used for inter County training with the leagues played in April.

That would have given us May, June, July and August to play club or Inter County championships.

You can't be serious! Why bother with Covid restrictions at all if individuals or organisations can set their own rules on the hoof? Don't you think the month of March would have been put to better use if it was deemed in the public interest to do so?

Do you think NPHET or the Government give a flying f**k about the public interest?

[twohands!!!]

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-on-behalf-of-management-committee

Dublin GAA acknowledge that, following an investigation this afternoon, there was a breach of Covid-19 guidelines yesterday morning.

The County Management Committee have suspended Dublin Senior Football manager Dessie Farrell for 12 weeks with immediate effect.

The Dublin senior football management and players recognise that this was a serious error of judgement and apologise unreservedly for their actions.

Dublin GAA Management Committee

At least Dessie is taking his medicine and isn't brazen enough to appeal the punishment. They must have been training for a while (like other counties) to have a photographer out there at that hour morning of the morning to catch them. Can't have any complaints and at least they dealt with it quickly and decisively

There could well be issues with regards to Dublin's GAA right to suspend him and whether due process was followed by acting so quickly.

Be some disaster for Dublin GAA if Farrell appeals his suspension.

Also could be a bit of a tactical mistake as the CCC will surely ask for the copies of the evidence and the arguments Dublin GAA made to suspend Dessie and will use the same in their case against him.

[Baile Brigín 2]

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-on-behalf-of-management-committee

Dublin GAA acknowledge that, following an investigation this afternoon, there was a breach of Covid-19 guidelines yesterday morning.

The County Management Committee have suspended Dublin Senior Football manager Dessie Farrell for 12 weeks with immediate effect.

The Dublin senior football management and players recognise that this was a serious error of judgement and apologise unreservedly for their actions.

Dublin GAA Management Committee

At least Dessie is taking his medicine and isn't brazen enough to appeal the punishment. They must have been training for a while (like other counties) to have a photographer out there at that hour morning of the morning to catch them. Can't have any complaints and at least they dealt with it quickly and decisively

There could well be issues with regards to Dublin's GAA right to suspend him and whether due process was followed by acting so quickly.

Be some disaster for Dublin GAA if Farrell appeals his suspension.

Also could be a bit of a tactical mistake as the CCC will surely ask for the copies of the evidence and the arguments Dublin GAA made to suspend Dessie and will use the same in their case against him.

Any team has the right to suspend players or managers for rulebreakimg

[dublin7]

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-gaa-statement-on-behalf-of-management-committee

Dublin GAA acknowledge that, following an investigation this afternoon, there was a breach of Covid-19 guidelines yesterday morning.

The County Management Committee have suspended Dublin Senior Football manager Dessie Farrell for 12 weeks with immediate effect.

The Dublin senior football management and players recognise that this was a serious error of judgement and apologise unreservedly for their actions.

Dublin GAA Management Committee

At least Dessie is taking his medicine and isn't brazen enough to appeal the punishment. They must have been training for a while (like other counties) to have a photographer out there at that hour morning of the morning to catch them. Can't have any complaints and at least they dealt with it quickly and decisively

There could well be issues with regards to Dublin's GAA right to suspend him and whether due process was followed by acting so quickly.

Be some disaster for Dublin GAA if Farrell appeals his suspension.

Also could be a bit of a tactical mistake as the CCC will surely ask for the copies of the evidence and the arguments Dublin GAA made to suspend Dessie and will use the same in their case against him.

You can hardly get another 8/12 week suspension for the same crime under the same rule? If that's the case why would Dublin issue any suspension at all

[Smokin Joe]

Would anyone be surprised if the government tried to "punish" the GAA for this?

It is startling that just 12 hours before the Dubs were training the GAA sent out correspondence which said:
"Breaches in this context (collective training sessions) will be dealt with under our own rules but would likely put the broader plan to return to activity in serious jeopardy."

That the highest profile team in the country were caught engaging in a collective training session so soon after that correspondence was sent has me worried about what the government might feel they should do.