When we are paying back the loan for the €350 that people got for doing nothing for 12 week, Will the people who had to face the day to day earning money (nurses, Doctors, HSE admin, Shop assistants, Postmen, etc) be expected to take up the tab? I would expect they would have less of a tax levy?
So you're a FG voter then, yeah?
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
Its a strange one, though your job will be still there when this is all over, I defo think there should be 'bonuses' for the likes of health care workers who are in the thick of it.
I'd rather be working if I'm being honest, we are doing lots of training and development stuff, logged on at 9 through to 5, but sure I'm going no where and gets me off doing housework!
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
Have you ever been out of work? Ever claimed the dole? Ever been sick? Ever used a hospital?
They've been "chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house." because they have been told to do so by their government to best protect public health which, you may not have realised, impacts you. Many of them will not have jobs to go back to when this is all over.
Think it was Home Bargains who said any of their staff who continue to work throughout the Pandemic (without going sick) will get 2 weeks pay as a bonus. That's the only 'bonus' system I can recall hearing about tbh.
Quote from: bennydorano on April 08, 2020, 03:05:46 PM
Think it was Home Bargains who said any of their staff who continue to work throughout the Pandemic (without going sick) will get 2 weeks pay as a bonus. That's the only 'bonus' system I can recall hearing about tbh.
Tesco are doing it also I hear, with pregnant workers getting a little extra
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
Have you ever been out of work? Ever claimed the dole? Ever been sick? Ever used a hospital?
They've been "chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house." because they have been told to do so by their government to best protect public health which, you may not have realised, impacts you. Many of them will not have jobs to go back to when this is all over.
Yes, I've been out of work! Yes, I've claimed the dole! Yes I have been sick and in Hospital. And understand that there has to be a 'down on you luck' and it's great to have backup from the state.
I understand many will not go back to jobs. But a vast majority will. Most Shop assistants are on little more than €350 a week already when they take into a/c costs and taxes for doing a days work. Most would have been far better off if they had the choice to sit and chill and collect their €350. Not to mention the risks they take going to work and can bring back to their family!
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
Have you ever been out of work? Ever claimed the dole? Ever been sick? Ever used a hospital?
They've been "chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house." because they have been told to do so by their government to best protect public health which, you may not have realised, impacts you. Many of them will not have jobs to go back to when this is all over.
Yes, I've been out of work! Yes, I've claimed the dole! Yes I have been sick and in Hospital. And understand that there has to be a 'down on you luck' and it's great to have backup from the state.
I understand many will not go back to jobs. But a vast majority will. Most Shop assistants are on little more than €350 a week already when they take into a/c costs and taxes for doing a days work. Most would have been far better off if they had the choice to sit and chill and collect their €350. Not to mention the risks they take going to work and can bring back to their family!
Is that 350 take home?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2020, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
Have you ever been out of work? Ever claimed the dole? Ever been sick? Ever used a hospital?
They've been "chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house." because they have been told to do so by their government to best protect public health which, you may not have realised, impacts you. Many of them will not have jobs to go back to when this is all over.
Yes, I've been out of work! Yes, I've claimed the dole! Yes I have been sick and in Hospital. And understand that there has to be a 'down on you luck' and it's great to have backup from the state.
I understand many will not go back to jobs. But a vast majority will. Most Shop assistants are on little more than €350 a week already when they take into a/c costs and taxes for doing a days work. Most would have been far better off if they had the choice to sit and chill and collect their €350. Not to mention the risks they take going to work and can bring back to their family!
Is that 350 take home?
Yes!
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
I've been at home the last 3 weeks and I can assure you I'm not sleeping in and chilling out watching Netflix all day. Wife is in Veterinary so still working but as I'm self employed my work practically stopped over night.
Looking after 3 small boys all day I tell you what I'd rather be working.
I haven't applied for the €350 as I still have outstanding invoices coming in and am comfortable enough for now,but if I have to apply for it I will and I won't feel embarrassed about it either, all the VAT I've paid to the Revenue over the years I fecking well will take the €350 if I have too.
I think most people at home would rather be out working, the novelty sure does wear off very quickly
Quote from: laoislad on April 08, 2020, 09:05:41 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
I've been at home the last 3 weeks and I can assure you I'm not sleeping in and chilling out watching Netflix all day. Wife is in Veterinary so still working but as I'm self employed my work practically stopped over night.
Looking after 3 small boys all day I tell you what I'd rather be working.
I haven't applied for the €350 as I still have outstanding invoices coming in and am comfortable enough for now,but if I have to apply for it I will and I won't feel embarrassed about it either, all the VAT I've paid to the Revenue over the years I fecking well will take the €350 if I have too.
I think most people at home would rather be out working, the novelty sure does wear off very quickly
This is not about embarrassing people. This is not about begrudging people the €350 to which they are entitled. It's about people who were out of the loop in turn pulling their weight once this is over.
That's not what you said in your opening post though, is it? You said you wanted a tax break because you haven't been laid off.
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 10:01:53 PM
That's not what you said in your opening post though, is it? You said you wanted a tax break because you haven't been laid off.
Yes that too!
Why not?
What problem do you have with that?
Through default I had no choice but to work in a risky environment.
Do you see us as just people that can be used during all of this and used again after?
As I said I have no problem with people getting the €350. It was in general the right thing to do. Most will return to work rested and recharged with that financial help.
But there has to be a loop in responsibilities!
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 10:01:53 PM
That's not what you said in your opening post though, is it? You said you wanted a tax break because you haven't been laid off.
Yes that too!
Why not?
What problem do you have with that?
Through default I had no choice but to work in a risky environment.
Do you see us as just people that can be used during all of this and used again after?
As I said I have no problem with people getting the €350. It was in general the right thing to do. Most will return to work rested and recharged with that financial help.
But there has to be a loop in responsibilities!
Because I understand how a progressive taxation system works.
The times you've been on the dole and sick in hospital - when can I expect my refund from you? I mean I was working and paying my taxes and you weren't, so what do I get?
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 10:56:24 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 10:01:53 PM
That's not what you said in your opening post though, is it? You said you wanted a tax break because you haven't been laid off.
Yes that too!
Why not?
What problem do you have with that?
Through default I had no choice but to work in a risky environment.
Do you see us as just people that can be used during all of this and used again after?
As I said I have no problem with people getting the €350. It was in general the right thing to do. Most will return to work rested and recharged with that financial help.
But there has to be a loop in responsibilities!
Because I understand how a progressive taxation system works.
The times you've been on the dole and sick in hospital - when can I expect my refund from you? I mean I was working and paying my taxes and you weren't, so what do I get?
What is you work circumstance during all of this?
I'd love a rebate on what I pay in taxes and what I've actually got in return for that.
I'd rather be at work, it's a horrible time to be off. I generally work very long hours and when I do have time off I like to make the most off it. But I cant take the kids to Tayto park or the cinema, cant go for a pint in the evening or watch a match at the wknd, golf courses etc are closed.
You cant even buy paint to do a bit of work around the house, if anything its frustrating being off. The 350/week doesn't cover my weekly outgoings, I'd much rather take my time off when it suits me rather than have it forced upon me, I've money put away so il not be struggling but to suggest everyone is just sitting at home chilling having the crack is a bit ott.
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 10:56:24 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 10:01:53 PM
That's not what you said in your opening post though, is it? You said you wanted a tax break because you haven't been laid off.
Yes that too!
Why not?
What problem do you have with that?
Through default I had no choice but to work in a risky environment.
Do you see us as just people that can be used during all of this and used again after?
As I said I have no problem with people getting the €350. It was in general the right thing to do. Most will return to work rested and recharged with that financial help.
But there has to be a loop in responsibilities!
Because I understand how a progressive taxation system works.
The times you've been on the dole and sick in hospital - when can I expect my refund from you? I mean I was working and paying my taxes and you weren't, so what do I get?
What is you work circumstance during all of this?
.
I work full time, in what would be considered by any reasonable middle class standard a well paid job and have just illegally been told I must use up 5 days of annual leave by my employer as they're terrified that nobody has used any this year and they'd face a glut of holidays over the summer.
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 11:25:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 11:06:41 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 10:56:24 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 10:15:23 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 10:01:53 PM
That's not what you said in your opening post though, is it? You said you wanted a tax break because you haven't been laid off.
Yes that too!
Why not?
What problem do you have with that?
Through default I had no choice but to work in a risky environment.
Do you see us as just people that can be used during all of this and used again after?
As I said I have no problem with people getting the €350. It was in general the right thing to do. Most will return to work rested and recharged with that financial help.
But there has to be a loop in responsibilities!
Because I understand how a progressive taxation system works.
The times you've been on the dole and sick in hospital - when can I expect my refund from you? I mean I was working and paying my taxes and you weren't, so what do I get?
What is you work circumstance during all of this?
.
I work full time, in what would be considered by any reasonable middle class standard a well paid job and have just illegally been told I must use up 5 days of annual leave by my employer as they're terrified that nobody has used any this year and they'd face a glut of holidays over the summer.
Ah you'll be ok, Holidays at any time this year will be Sh1te! We have the same problem in our work place.
When all this is over the rested will leave their caves. They will decide that the people who kept the show on the road deserved a
''Round of Applause''. It will be all over Facebook, Twitter and the News.
It will have to be done to give them (the rested) their feel good moment! To show their appreciation.
Weren't they all great and weren't we all great to stay at home resting.
Now lets extra tax them on all those extra earnings they had over the 12 weeks.
Anomoly?
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129437-northern-ireland-workers/
If they're paying their PAYE, PRSI and USC here....
Quote from: Rossfan on April 09, 2020, 12:01:57 AM
Anomoly?
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129437-northern-ireland-workers/
If they're paying their PAYE, PRSI and USC here....
Residence is the key part. The UK tax system is still their primary, albeit they'll get credit there for the Irish tax paid, so will probably pay little/no UK tax. You can choose whether to pay Irish PRSI or the UK equivalent, although I think if you're working for more than 5 years in Ireland then you're into full Irish PRSI.
If you're unemployed it makes absolute sense that it's country of residence that looks after you.
The wage subsidy scheme would not differentiate between residents north/south.
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 11:25:36 PM
I work full time, in what would be considered by any reasonable middle class standard a well paid job and have just illegally been told I must use up 5 days of annual leave by my employer as they're terrified that nobody has used any this year and they'd face a glut of holidays over the summer.
I just heard of a reasonably sized accounting firm in Dublin doing the same. I have no idea of the legalities of it but I would have assumed it wasn't illegal. Are there not many construction firms who insist their employees take their hols in August?
The company i work for in Belfast has told everyone they must use up all annual leave, our year is from 1st May to 30th April, a lot of people were looking to carry leave over to next year but not have to use them. Basically a lot of people are off for most of April when you factor in Easter holidays too, I had 6 days leave left and tbh was looking to carry 5 across but considering the circumstances i'm happy enough to use them up if it leads to no job cuts or other matters...Small price to pay considering the times.
The worst thing though is you've to take your holidays off to sit in the house...that is the disaster.
There will be nobody going very far for the rest of 2020 anyway.
Hasnt the Brit government made carryover a statutory entitlement?
My works daily update email yesterday states
Following the Government guideline on carryover of statutory holiday entitlement the HR Team are working on a process and communication for XXX to help us understand the conditions of holiday carryover from 2020 into subsequent years. We are intending to communicate on this after the Easter break.
Guideline though...
At the end of the day if you feel the company are taking liberties given what you think you may know then seek expert advice, sometimes not that readily available on here but if anyone ends up any the wiser throw it in, it should become clear enough in time, hopefully before people are strong-armed into taking holidays
Though as also stated perhaps a small price to pay to ensure you have a job to go back to
Can see it from both sides to some extent
I live in the North work and stamp my card in the south, I only started early this year. We are at home since 27th March, we were told to take holidays for the 1st week if you had any but I had none accrued yet. Anyone with none was told they would receive payment to an amount equivalent to the support received from the government. Today is payday for the 1st week off a and I received nothing.
I queried this with HR and got an email to state I did not qualify for the payment through the payroll and contact the social security office and claim benefit. I wont be entitled to the 350 euro as I live in the North. Anyone know is there any reasons you do not qualify for the 70% payments the Irish Government have set aside.
Quote from: tiempo on April 09, 2020, 12:50:58 PM
Though as also stated perhaps a small price to pay to ensure you have a job to go back to
Can see it from both sides to some extent
This is the key. I don't want to have to use up 5 days in April where I've to sit on my arse like any other weekend day at the minute, but if it helps company survive to enable me to continue to have a job in future, then I'll gladly do it.
I'd be wary of company's abusing their position but I'm not some mad communist where I'd argue my rights as a worker to the ends of the earth and then discover afterwards that the company went under.
Quote from: Rossfan on April 09, 2020, 12:01:57 AM
Anomoly?
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0408/1129437-northern-ireland-workers/
If they're paying their PAYE, PRSI and USC here....
I find that harsh on northern irish working in the south.
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 08, 2020, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: gallsman on April 08, 2020, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 08, 2020, 02:17:52 PM
No not a Fine Gaeler! Just I've been working the last 2/3/4 weeks. Meanwhile my neighbours have been chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house.
Meanwhile I've been facing the public every day. Getting the same money and probably getting extra duties to my work.
Have you ever been out of work? Ever claimed the dole? Ever been sick? Ever used a hospital?
They've been "chilling, binge watching Netflix, sleeping in, resting, keeping comfortably up with Kids homework, tidying around the house." because they have been told to do so by their government to best protect public health which, you may not have realised, impacts you. Many of them will not have jobs to go back to when this is all over.
Yes, I've been out of work! Yes, I've claimed the dole! Yes I have been sick and in Hospital. And understand that there has to be a 'down on you luck' and it's great to have backup from the state.
I understand many will not go back to jobs. But a vast majority will. Most Shop assistants are on little more than €350 a week already when they take into a/c costs and taxes for doing a days work. Most would have been far better off if they had the choice to sit and chill and collect their €350. Not to mention the risks they take going to work and can bring back to their family!
Is that 350 take home?
Yes!
Heard on the radio today that this is taxable but that employers aren't putting it through properly so people are likely to have a tax bill at the end of this
Quote from: andoireabu on April 09, 2020, 05:57:37 PM
Heard on the radio today that this is taxable but that employers aren't putting it through properly so people are likely to have a tax bill at the end of this
No, even if the employer completes the payroll procedure 100% correctly, their staff will have tax bills at the end of the year.
Quote from: five points on April 09, 2020, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on April 09, 2020, 05:57:37 PM
Heard on the radio today that this is taxable but that employers aren't putting it through properly so people are likely to have a tax bill at the end of this
No, even if the employer completes the payroll procedure 100% correctly, their staff will have tax bills at the end of the year.
Exactly, the point is to give people cash now. Applying PAYE to the Wage Subsidy would reduce cash in hand and cash is king at the moment.
But it is taxable - income tax (pretty sure that includes USC) will have to be paid. But it's not subject to PRSI (you don't lose any stamps though).
The way Revenue will collect the income tax is by reducing your tax credits for 2021, so it will be collected gradually over 12 months (possibly even over 24 months)
Quote from: pbat on April 09, 2020, 02:07:05 PM
I live in the North work and stamp my card in the south, I only started early this year. We are at home since 27th March, we were told to take holidays for the 1st week if you had any but I had none accrued yet. Anyone with none was told they would receive payment to an amount equivalent to the support received from the government. Today is payday for the 1st week off a and I received nothing.
I queried this with HR and got an email to state I did not qualify for the payment through the payroll and contact the social security office and claim benefit. I wont be entitled to the 350 euro as I live in the North. Anyone know is there any reasons you do not qualify for the 70% payments the Irish Government have set aside.
I asked this question to an expert previously and they said that residence doesn't matter for the Wage Subsidy Scheme. It's based on employees on the payroll. Government gives the money to the employer and the employer pays you, residence doesn't come into it.
I'm trying to verify that but havent been able to one way or the other yet, but I'll see what I can find out. However, there may be other reasons you don't qualify:
You must be on the payroll at 29 February 2020 to qualify and been part of the company's payroll submission for the period 1 Feb to 15 March.
Another reason people might not qualify is if they are paid too much. Average net weekly pay of €960 or more in the Jan/Feb period and you don't qualify (equates to about €76k gross I'm told).
So total amount received in the period (pension ignored) divided by the amount of weeks worked. Some people fall out because they received their 2019 bonus in January 2020 and therefore their average net weekly pay for Jan/Feb is not a fair reflection of their average pay. But Revenue aren't budging on that position.
Quote from: Hound on April 10, 2020, 08:22:37 AM
Quote from: pbat on April 09, 2020, 02:07:05 PM
I live in the North work and stamp my card in the south, I only started early this year. We are at home since 27th March, we were told to take holidays for the 1st week if you had any but I had none accrued yet. Anyone with none was told they would receive payment to an amount equivalent to the support received from the government. Today is payday for the 1st week off a and I received nothing.
I queried this with HR and got an email to state I did not qualify for the payment through the payroll and contact the social security office and claim benefit. I wont be entitled to the 350 euro as I live in the North. Anyone know is there any reasons you do not qualify for the 70% payments the Irish Government have set aside.
I asked this question to an expert previously and they said that residence doesn't matter for the Wage Subsidy Scheme. It's based on employees on the payroll. Government gives the money to the employer and the employer pays you, residence doesn't come into it.
I'm trying to verify that but havent been able to one way or the other yet, but I'll see what I can find out. However, there may be other reasons you don't qualify:
You must be on the payroll at 29 February 2020 to qualify and been part of the company's payroll submission for the period 1 Feb to 15 March.
Another reason people might not qualify is if they are paid too much. Average net weekly pay of €960 or more in the Jan/Feb period and you don't qualify (equates to about €76k gross I'm told).
So total amount received in the period (pension ignored) divided by the amount of weeks worked. Some people fall out because they received their 2019 bonus in January 2020 and therefore their average net weekly pay for Jan/Feb is not a fair reflection of their average pay. But Revenue aren't budging on that position.
Thanks Hound, I definitely qualify on the last two points, they are telling me its the residence is the issue.
https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/documents/pmod-topics/guidance-on-operation-of-temporary-covid-wage-subsidy-scheme.pdf
3.13 states living in Northern Ireland is not an issue.
Quote from: pbat on April 10, 2020, 10:42:04 AM
https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/documents/pmod-topics/guidance-on-operation-of-temporary-covid-wage-subsidy-scheme.pdf
3.13 states living in Northern Ireland is not an issue.
That confirms it alright cheers:
Is an employee who resides in Northern Ireland eligible?Employers can claim the subsidy in respect of cross border workers where the employee is exercising an Irish
contract of employment in the Republic of Ireland, and where the employer satisfies the conditions of the scheme.
Quote from: Hound on April 10, 2020, 08:06:28 AM
Quote from: five points on April 09, 2020, 05:59:49 PM
Quote from: andoireabu on April 09, 2020, 05:57:37 PM
Heard on the radio today that this is taxable but that employers aren't putting it through properly so people are likely to have a tax bill at the end of this
No, even if the employer completes the payroll procedure 100% correctly, their staff will have tax bills at the end of the year.
Exactly, the point is to give people cash now. Applying PAYE to the Wage Subsidy would reduce cash in hand and cash is king at the moment.
But it is taxable - income tax (pretty sure that includes USC) will have to be paid. But it's not subject to PRSI (you don't lose any stamps though).
The way Revenue will collect the income tax is by reducing your tax credits for 2021, so it will be collected gradually over 12 months (possibly even over 24 months)
The subsidy will be liable to Income Tax and USC by way of review at end of year. This is per latest version of guide. Page 11
Time to horse all these now unemployed Teachers onto the €350 as there is no leaving Cert as all they now have to do is guess about 30 random numbers for the Leaving cert result for a subject.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 09, 2020, 12:54:35 AM
Time to horse all these now unemployed Teachers onto the €350 as there is no leaving Cert as all they now have to do is guess about 30 random numbers for the Leaving cert result for a subject.
So has the online teaching stopped? Is it only leaving cert teachers to be put on 80% or do they teach other years?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2020, 02:51:57 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 09, 2020, 12:54:35 AM
Time to horse all these now unemployed Teachers onto the €350 as there is no leaving Cert as all they now have to do is guess about 30 random numbers for the Leaving cert result for a subject.
So has the online teaching stopped? Is it only leaving cert teachers to be put on 80% or do they teach other years?
It will have stopped for this year's Leaving Cert? Why was there online stuff going on for other classes?
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 09, 2020, 08:32:22 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 09, 2020, 02:51:57 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 09, 2020, 12:54:35 AM
Time to horse all these now unemployed Teachers onto the €350 as there is no leaving Cert as all they now have to do is guess about 30 random numbers for the Leaving cert result for a subject.
So has the online teaching stopped? Is it only leaving cert teachers to be put on 80% or do they teach other years?
It will have stopped for this year's Leaving Cert? Why was there online stuff going on for other classes?
Kids have lessons that have to be finished and covered, so that when they go in next year they've new subjects. You did go to school?
Don't permanent teachers get paid year round anyway?
Signed up Monday! Fed up of working the last 3 months. Went to the Doctor and said I was afraid of getting the Covid because of my Chest. (I've no Chest problems). Doctor said ok and wrote me a sick note. Said I could probably get 6 months out of this. Went to the welfare office - no questions. Happy days. Great to be getting the €350. Loads of time now to go over homework backlog, Do some sports drills, get jobs done around the house and watch a few boxsets. I might even get bored! Was fed up being the fool (risking my life) earning money that will only be taken off me with tax hikes when the dust settles. Have even sorted out a small nixer that should see me on the same money as working. I don't even care now what the Teachers do in September as I will be adaptable to multiple runs to the school if necessary or I'll be at home to take the pressure of the wife and let her go to work in peace. Already I can see people frowning on me, but the reality is that most of them are jealous that they don't have the courage to do the same. Best thing of all, my job is there waiting for me when I decide to go back! ;D
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 20, 2020, 01:39:32 AM
Signed up Monday! Fed up of working the last 3 months. Went to the Doctor and said I was afraid of getting the Covid because of my Chest. (I've no Chest problems). Doctor said ok and wrote me a sick note. Said I could probably get 6 months out of this. Went to the welfare office - no questions. Happy days. Great to be getting the €350. Loads of time now to go over homework backlog, Do some sports drills, get jobs done around the house and watch a few boxsets. I might even get bored! Was fed up being the fool (risking my life) earning money that will only be taken off me with tax hikes when the dust settles. Have even sorted out a small nixer that should see me on the same money as working. I don't even care now what the Teachers do in September as I will be adaptable to multiple runs to the school if necessary or I'll be at home to take the pressure of the wife and let her go to work in peace. Already I can see people frowning on me, but the reality is that most of them are jealous that they don't have the courage to do the same. Best thing of all, my job is there waiting for me when I decide to go back! ;D
Good for you, I'm sure you've paid enough tax over the years to have a break. The garden will look great!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on June 20, 2020, 01:43:45 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on June 20, 2020, 01:39:32 AM
Signed up Monday! Fed up of working the last 3 months. Went to the Doctor and said I was afraid of getting the Covid because of my Chest. (I've no Chest problems). Doctor said ok and wrote me a sick note. Said I could probably get 6 months out of this. Went to the welfare office - no questions. Happy days. Great to be getting the €350. Loads of time now to go over homework backlog, Do some sports drills, get jobs done around the house and watch a few boxsets. I might even get bored! Was fed up being the fool (risking my life) earning money that will only be taken off me with tax hikes when the dust settles. Have even sorted out a small nixer that should see me on the same money as working. I don't even care now what the Teachers do in September as I will be adaptable to multiple runs to the school if necessary or I'll be at home to take the pressure of the wife and let her go to work in peace. Already I can see people frowning on me, but the reality is that most of them are jealous that they don't have the courage to do the same. Best thing of all, my job is there waiting for me when I decide to go back! ;D
Good for you, I'm sure you've paid enough tax over the years to have a break. The garden will look great!
Thanks! I'd feel guilty normally. But such is the flippant waste of money from the Government it takes away all guilt. Hop on the gravy train while you can.
So much anger.
You're a bit of a dick to be fair.
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on June 20, 2020, 05:24:08 PM
So much anger.
You're a bit of a dick to be fair.
;D
My family had a lot of pressure during all this! Both myself and my wife trying to juggle our busy jobs along with minding and trying to teach children. We have no support levels as no close family live close to us. We have watched people laze about (in some cases) on full pay or on the €350. Telling us of their cooking exploits, their sleeping in, their weeks of drinking wine, watching boxsets, fixing up around their house. All the while like fools we remained stuck in the rat race with extras and for what. Bigger taxes down the line. So, the logical thing to do was join the passe.
There is no more anger. Life is good. Besides what do you care your taxes will have nothing to do with me.
Great that this has been extended til the 10th of August. Have really enjoyed my time off and got loads of stuff done around the house. Got to spend time with the kids doing homework and sport skills. You can see the improvement in them in both. My neighbours who have public sector jobs been on full wages and doing little or no work clearly disapprove of me getting the payments. Asking me when am I going back to work. I return ask them the same question. As far as they are concerned checking e-mails is work. The snobbery is gas!
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2020, 09:51:54 PM
Great that this has been extended til the 10th of August. Have really enjoyed my time off and got loads of stuff done around the house. Got to spend time with the kids doing homework and sport skills. You can see the improvement in them in both. My neighbours who have public sector jobs been on full wages and doing little or no work clearly disapprove of me getting the payments. Asking me when am I going back to work. I return ask them the same question. As far as they are concerned checking e-mails is work. The snobbery is gas!
Checking emails is indeed work, if you then do the action required.
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2020, 02:12:19 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2020, 09:51:54 PM
Great that this has been extended til the 10th of August. Have really enjoyed my time off and got loads of stuff done around the house. Got to spend time with the kids doing homework and sport skills. You can see the improvement in them in both. My neighbours who have public sector jobs been on full wages and doing little or no work clearly disapprove of me getting the payments. Asking me when am I going back to work. I return ask them the same question. As far as they are concerned checking e-mails is work. The snobbery is gas!
Checking emails is indeed work, if you then do the action required.
To be fair they do work an hour or two a day! They are not total dossers! One is a teacher, so she is on official holidays now. Anyway we are all in this together, doing our bit staying away from people. It's getting late, these sleep ins sure make it hard to go to bed early!
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 11, 2020, 02:33:15 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2020, 02:12:19 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2020, 09:51:54 PM
Great that this has been extended til the 10th of August. Have really enjoyed my time off and got loads of stuff done around the house. Got to spend time with the kids doing homework and sport skills. You can see the improvement in them in both. My neighbours who have public sector jobs been on full wages and doing little or no work clearly disapprove of me getting the payments. Asking me when am I going back to work. I return ask them the same question. As far as they are concerned checking e-mails is work. The snobbery is gas!
Checking emails is indeed work, if you then do the action required.
To be fair they do work an hour or two a day! They are not total dossers! One is a teacher, so she is on official holidays now. Anyway we are all in this together, doing our bit staying away from people. It's getting late, these sleep ins sure make it hard to go to bed early!
Great.
Thanks for letting us all know about your neighbours jobs and wellbeing too.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 11, 2020, 07:54:56 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 11, 2020, 02:33:15 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 11, 2020, 02:12:19 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on July 10, 2020, 09:51:54 PM
Great that this has been extended til the 10th of August. Have really enjoyed my time off and got loads of stuff done around the house. Got to spend time with the kids doing homework and sport skills. You can see the improvement in them in both. My neighbours who have public sector jobs been on full wages and doing little or no work clearly disapprove of me getting the payments. Asking me when am I going back to work. I return ask them the same question. As far as they are concerned checking e-mails is work. The snobbery is gas!
Checking emails is indeed work, if you then do the action required.
To be fair they do work an hour or two a day! They are not total dossers! One is a teacher, so she is on official holidays now. Anyway we are all in this together, doing our bit staying away from people. It's getting late, these sleep ins sure make it hard to go to bed early!
Great.
Thanks for letting us all know about your neighbours jobs and wellbeing too.
You are welcome Far! I've found this crisis has brought the best out in people.
Looks like I'm going to have to stretch this covid Payment lark out for another couple of weeks with the likelihood of the schools not opening. Have to say the Government played a blinder giving me €350 for the summer months. Along with improvements round the house which has never looked as good, it's great to get to go through some Soccer and Gaelic drills with the kids. Plenty of time for heading off on an adventures with the family during the good weather.
Mental and Body health has never been better. And my outlook is so positive.
My Civil servant neighbours are none to impressed. Both still ''working'' from home!
Back to work today! Kids are back to school. Back to a sort of normal. Going to miss the sleep ins, the extra time spent at making meals and the time with the kids. But like my Civil servant neighbours, we put our shoulder to the wheel and pushed ourselves of of this together. It wasn't easy!
That's it till you retire, 15 or so years for me!
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