The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Jurgen walks - Stallion vindicated

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Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on September 21, 2021, 10:18:02 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2021, 10:15:05 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on September 21, 2021, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
Hope it goes well for young Bradley, he has a lot of potential. Gordan has been fairly talked up this week!

Bradley gave away a penalty but Kelleher bailed him out. Bradley looked ok up to that point.

Apart from the pen, thought he had a very tidy game.

Bit of a snoozefest but another 3 nil win
Stephen Kenny in the crowd.. maybe he's seen enough to ask Bradley to switch allegiances...
Unfortunately he can't as he played for the north in a competitive game

Near certain it has to be 3 competitive fixtures.
Was the international appearance not Friendly v Malta?

GiveItToTheShooters

Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on September 21, 2021, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on September 21, 2021, 10:17:34 PM
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on September 21, 2021, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on September 21, 2021, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
Hope it goes well for young Bradley, he has a lot of potential. Gordan has been fairly talked up this week!

Bradley gave away a penalty but Kelleher bailed him out. Bradley looked ok up to that point.

Apart from the pen, thought he had a very tidy game.

Bit of a snoozefest but another 3 nil win
Stephen Kenny in the crowd.. maybe he's seen enough to ask Bradley to switch allegiances...
I'd be very friendly with a coach in the NI system who would be a proud Irish nationalist. He would be involved in advising Bradley - who very much has his head screwed on. But he's in a difficult situation. NI approached him a lot earlier than he debuted and he declined on more than one occasion. He didn't want to declare with NI and by all accounts he's still very open to switch and would probably prefer it. The major stumbling block is that his family live in a very staunch Unionist town and it would be seriously challenging for them. These locals are the same knuckle draggers that were at the centre of the "wee hate Catholics" chant from a NI game a few years ago. NI knew what they were at rushing in to cap him
His family would need to take a long hard look at themselves if they're worried about what the huns have to say. Who cares what they think or say. It's a pity more from the north havent the balls to switch.
You sound like a muppet here. His family run/ran the local shop in the village. Its their livelihood and that's a challenging position for a lad at 16 and 17 to be in. You can surely see how it is a major issue.

He is from Killen.
Nah it don't see how it is challenging for him at all or a major issue.
If he wanted to play for Ireland he should've had the balls to switch, simple. Everything else is irrelevant.
But now it looks like he's trying to appease a couple of prods that go to his family's shop that might've got offended, who cares what they think.

michaelg

#48137
He has 3 senior caps for NI, including one competitive match.  New rule, as far as I am aware, says that even after one senior cap (friendly or competitive) you need to wait 3 years to switch.  Also, I think that after 3 senior competitive caps under the age of 21 and it is no longer possibe to switch.

michaelg

Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on September 21, 2021, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on September 21, 2021, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
Hope it goes well for young Bradley, he has a lot of potential. Gordan has been fairly talked up this week!

Bradley gave away a penalty but Kelleher bailed him out. Bradley looked ok up to that point.

Apart from the pen, thought he had a very tidy game.

Bit of a snoozefest but another 3 nil win
Stephen Kenny in the crowd.. maybe he's seen enough to ask Bradley to switch allegiances...
I'd be very friendly with a coach in the NI system who would be a proud Irish nationalist. He would be involved in advising Bradley - who very much has his head screwed on. But he's in a difficult situation. NI approached him a lot earlier than he debuted and he declined on more than one occasion. He didn't want to declare with NI and by all accounts he's still very open to switch and would probably prefer it. The major stumbling block is that his family live in a very staunch Unionist town and it would be seriously challenging for them. These locals are the same knuckle draggers that were at the centre of the "wee hate Catholics" chant from a NI game a few years ago. NI knew what they were at rushing in to cap him
Be interesting to know what advice he gave.  Have seen a number of interviews and social media posts etc from young Bradley and he seems keen to play for NI. Have also heard from folk in the area who know his family and have said that they are very impressed with the IFA system and support provided.  As for NI rushing in to cap him, it's hardly a surprise if the FAI are actively targeting a young player with a lot of potential who has been brought through the IFA system.

Gmac

Quote from: michaelg on September 21, 2021, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on September 21, 2021, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on September 21, 2021, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
Hope it goes well for young Bradley, he has a lot of potential. Gordan has been fairly talked up this week!

Bradley gave away a penalty but Kelleher bailed him out. Bradley looked ok up to that point.

Apart from the pen, thought he had a very tidy game.

Bit of a snoozefest but another 3 nil win
Stephen Kenny in the crowd.. maybe he's seen enough to ask Bradley to switch allegiances...
I'd be very friendly with a coach in the NI system who would be a proud Irish nationalist. He would be involved in advising Bradley - who very much has his head screwed on. But he's in a difficult situation. NI approached him a lot earlier than he debuted and he declined on more than one occasion. He didn't want to declare with NI and by all accounts he's still very open to switch and would probably prefer it. The major stumbling block is that his family live in a very staunch Unionist town and it would be seriously challenging for them. These locals are the same knuckle draggers that were at the centre of the "wee hate Catholics" chant from a NI game a few years ago. NI knew what they were at rushing in to cap him
Be interesting to know what advice he gave.  Have seen a number of interviews and social media posts etc from young Bradley and he seems keen to play for NI. Have also heard from folk in the area who know his family and have said that they are very impressed with the IFA system and support provided.  As for NI rushing in to cap him, it's hardly a surprise if the FAI are actively targeting a young player with a lot of potential who has been he brought through the IFA system.
the beautiful village of Killen ?

gawa316

Quote from: Gmac on September 21, 2021, 11:08:54 PM
]the beautiful village of Killen ?

Played numerous times against Killen, on the pitch behind the pub. Nice wee set up but the telephone wires going over the pitch were a pain in the arse...would hit them at least 5 times a game. The crowd on the side were also a delight ::)

quit yo jibbajabba

Was it a Killen session?

I'll get me coat

#rafaout

laoislad

Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 11:40:04 PM
Quote from: Gmac on September 21, 2021, 11:08:54 PM
]the beautiful village of Killen ?

Played numerous times against Killen, on the pitch behind the pub. Nice wee set up but the telephone wires going over the pitch were a pain in the arse...would hit them at least 5 times a game. The crowd on the side were also a delight ::)
Maybe you should have played the ball on the ground instead of hoofing it every time it came near you 😜
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.

gawa316

Quote from: laoislad on September 22, 2021, 07:44:59 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 11:40:04 PM
Quote from: Gmac on September 21, 2021, 11:08:54 PM
]the beautiful village of Killen ?

Played numerous times against Killen, on the pitch behind the pub. Nice wee set up but the telephone wires going over the pitch were a pain in the arse...would hit them at least 5 times a game. The crowd on the side were also a delight ::)
Maybe you should have played the ball on the ground instead of hoofing it every time it came near you 😜

If was from keepers kick outs ye knob🤣 I was like a young Molby passing it around...and anyway you started all this poaching and subsequent Killen chat, so whist!

6th sam

Quote from: michaelg on September 21, 2021, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on September 21, 2021, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on September 21, 2021, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
Hope it goes well for young Bradley, he has a lot of potential. Gordan has been fairly talked up this week!

Bradley gave away a penalty but Kelleher bailed him out. Bradley looked ok up to that point.

Apart from the pen, thought he had a very tidy game.

Bit of a snoozefest but another 3 nil win
Stephen Kenny in the crowd.. maybe he's seen enough to ask Bradley to switch allegiances...
I'd be very friendly with a coach in the NI system who would be a proud Irish nationalist. He would be involved in advising Bradley - who very much has his head screwed on. But he's in a difficult situation. NI approached him a lot earlier than he debuted and he declined on more than one occasion. He didn't want to declare with NI and by all accounts he's still very open to switch and would probably prefer it. The major stumbling block is that his family live in a very staunch Unionist town and it would be seriously challenging for them. These locals are the same knuckle draggers that were at the centre of the "wee hate Catholics" chant from a NI game a few years ago. NI knew what they were at rushing in to cap him
Be interesting to know what advice he gave.  Have seen a number of interviews and social media posts etc from young Bradley and he seems keen to play for NI. Have also heard from folk in the area who know his family and have said that they are very impressed with the IFA system and support provided.  As for NI rushing in to cap him, it's hardly a surprise if the FAI are actively targeting a young player with a lot of potential who has been brought through the IFA system.
Michaelg I have alot of respect for many of your opinions and you give an invaluable insight into unionist opinion. But please please try to understand , there is a large section of the population living in NI who have no affinity for the NI state ( understandably) . Your use of the word targeting betrays a lack of understanding of this concept . I have a lot of respect for the strides IFA make in trying to move NI soccer "supporters" away from their  ignominious past. That past doesn't make it easy for any "nationalist" to play for NI. To say that the FAI are targetting in the North is an insult, my only problem is that they don't do it enough. They should make no apologies for giving Irish citizens in the North the opportunity to play for a country they have an affinity with. In fact they should open up academies north of the border. The fact that many associated with NI soccer don't accept this , sadly means that they're not as far down the road of change as I had hoped.
It's obviously not a direct comparison, but how you feel about England trying to sign up Stuart Dallas , because he lives in England.
National identity is a personal choice , please respect that.

brokencrossbar1

Quote from: gawa316 on September 22, 2021, 08:17:43 AM
Quote from: laoislad on September 22, 2021, 07:44:59 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 11:40:04 PM
Quote from: Gmac on September 21, 2021, 11:08:54 PM
]the beautiful village of Killen ?

Played numerous times against Killen, on the pitch behind the pub. Nice wee set up but the telephone wires going over the pitch were a pain in the arse...would hit them at least 5 times a game. The crowd on the side were also a delight ::)
Maybe you should have played the ball on the ground instead of hoofing it every time it came near you 😜

If was from keepers kick outs ye knob🤣 I was like a young Molby passing it around...and anyway you started all this poaching and subsequent Killen chat, so whist!

Sure it wasn't an old Molby....

brokencrossbar1

In terms of Conor Bradley it's the lads choice and that's as simple as that. To be honest we all know that the teams should be a single team,  all other major sporting teams on the island are all island. Listened to Willie Anderson on the radio taking about his book and the day Nigel Carr was caught up in the bomb attack on Judge Gibson. If ever a man had reason to not want to play in a United ireland team it would have been Anderson yet he said he was never prouder to captain his country. The suits need to sort themselves out and get a single team. They would do a bit more than just compete (or not as the case is with ROI at the minute!)

michaelg

Quote from: 6th sam on September 22, 2021, 08:31:04 AM
Quote from: michaelg on September 21, 2021, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on September 21, 2021, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on September 21, 2021, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
Hope it goes well for young Bradley, he has a lot of potential. Gordan has been fairly talked up this week!

Bradley gave away a penalty but Kelleher bailed him out. Bradley looked ok up to that point.

Apart from the pen, thought he had a very tidy game.

Bit of a snoozefest but another 3 nil win
Stephen Kenny in the crowd.. maybe he's seen enough to ask Bradley to switch allegiances...
I'd be very friendly with a coach in the NI system who would be a proud Irish nationalist. He would be involved in advising Bradley - who very much has his head screwed on. But he's in a difficult situation. NI approached him a lot earlier than he debuted and he declined on more than one occasion. He didn't want to declare with NI and by all accounts he's still very open to switch and would probably prefer it. The major stumbling block is that his family live in a very staunch Unionist town and it would be seriously challenging for them. These locals are the same knuckle draggers that were at the centre of the "wee hate Catholics" chant from a NI game a few years ago. NI knew what they were at rushing in to cap him
Be interesting to know what advice he gave.  Have seen a number of interviews and social media posts etc from young Bradley and he seems keen to play for NI. Have also heard from folk in the area who know his family and have said that they are very impressed with the IFA system and support provided.  As for NI rushing in to cap him, it's hardly a surprise if the FAI are actively targeting a young player with a lot of potential who has been brought through the IFA system.
Michaelg I have alot of respect for many of your opinions and you give an invaluable insight into unionist opinion. But please please try to understand , there is a large section of the population living in NI who have no affinity for the NI state ( understandably) . Your use of the word targeting betrays a lack of understanding of this concept . I have a lot of respect for the strides IFA make in trying to move NI soccer "supporters" away from their  ignominious past. That past doesn't make it easy for any "nationalist" to play for NI. To say that the FAI are targetting in the North is an insult, my only problem is that they don't do it enough. They should make no apologies for giving Irish citizens in the North the opportunity to play for a country they have an affinity with. In fact they should open up academies north of the border. The fact that many associated with NI soccer don't accept this , sadly means that they're not as far down the road of change as I had hoped.
It's obviously not a direct comparison, but how you feel about England trying to sign up Stuart Dallas , because he lives in England.
National identity is a personal choice , please respect that.
Stuart Dallas is not eligible to play for England.  What annoys NI football fans is that the FAI only 'approach' players from a perceived Nationalist background.  That by its very nature is a sectarian approach, yet it is always only the IFA, NI fans etc who get the accusation of sectarianism levelled at them.

BennyCake

Is the likes of McClean, Gobson, Marc Wilson etc opting for the Republic, not similar to Declan Rice, Grealish etc (who did actually represent Ireland), opting for England?

I mean, why would you want a player playing for your country/team, when  they clearly don't want to be there? I've. Heard it said on here that Ireland should have capped Declan Rice in a proper match to tie him to Ireland. I'm glad they didn't, because his true loyalty was to England. For whatever reason, he chose them over Ireland. So, feck him. Whatever. If he was capped proper, he would only have reluctantly played for Ireland but his true loyalty would have been England.

So why would NI fans get  upset at northern Catholic  players opting for Ireland? Do you want someone playing g for you that doesn't want to be there?

6th sam

Quote from: michaelg on September 22, 2021, 01:11:12 PM
Quote from: 6th sam on September 22, 2021, 08:31:04 AM
Quote from: michaelg on September 21, 2021, 10:38:02 PM
Quote from: TwoUpTwoDown on September 21, 2021, 10:07:21 PM
Quote from: laoislad on September 21, 2021, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 09:38:01 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on September 21, 2021, 09:05:19 PM
Quote from: gawa316 on September 21, 2021, 06:42:08 PM
Hope it goes well for young Bradley, he has a lot of potential. Gordan has been fairly talked up this week!

Bradley gave away a penalty but Kelleher bailed him out. Bradley looked ok up to that point.

Apart from the pen, thought he had a very tidy game.

Bit of a snoozefest but another 3 nil win
Stephen Kenny in the crowd.. maybe he's seen enough to ask Bradley to switch allegiances...
I'd be very friendly with a coach in the NI system who would be a proud Irish nationalist. He would be involved in advising Bradley - who very much has his head screwed on. But he's in a difficult situation. NI approached him a lot earlier than he debuted and he declined on more than one occasion. He didn't want to declare with NI and by all accounts he's still very open to switch and would probably prefer it. The major stumbling block is that his family live in a very staunch Unionist town and it would be seriously challenging for them. These locals are the same knuckle draggers that were at the centre of the "wee hate Catholics" chant from a NI game a few years ago. NI knew what they were at rushing in to cap him
Be interesting to know what advice he gave.  Have seen a number of interviews and social media posts etc from young Bradley and he seems keen to play for NI. Have also heard from folk in the area who know his family and have said that they are very impressed with the IFA system and support provided.  As for NI rushing in to cap him, it's hardly a surprise if the FAI are actively targeting a young player with a lot of potential who has been brought through the IFA system.
Michaelg I have alot of respect for many of your opinions and you give an invaluable insight into unionist opinion. But please please try to understand , there is a large section of the population living in NI who have no affinity for the NI state ( understandably) . Your use of the word targeting betrays a lack of understanding of this concept . I have a lot of respect for the strides IFA make in trying to move NI soccer "supporters" away from their  ignominious past. That past doesn't make it easy for any "nationalist" to play for NI. To say that the FAI are targetting in the North is an insult, my only problem is that they don't do it enough. They should make no apologies for giving Irish citizens in the North the opportunity to play for a country they have an affinity with. In fact they should open up academies north of the border. The fact that many associated with NI soccer don't accept this , sadly means that they're not as far down the road of change as I had hoped.
It's obviously not a direct comparison, but how you feel about England trying to sign up Stuart Dallas , because he lives in England.
National identity is a personal choice , please respect that.
Stuart Dallas is not eligible to play for England.  What annoys NI football fans is that the FAI only 'approach' players from a perceived Nationalist background.  That by its very nature is a sectarian approach, yet it is always only the IFA, NI fans etc who get the accusation of sectarianism levelled at them.

As I said , Stuart is not a direct comparison but u get my drift, why would Ni want someone who has no affinity for them and doesn't want to play for them? It is a difficult choice for a northerner to go to play for the republic (travel, inconvenience, poorly performing team, and abuse from bigots) , and I'm sure many northern nationalists just play for Ni to avoid the hassle . Totally agree re approaching all players and I don't know FAI's modus operandi but In reality only those from a nationalist background are likely to have an affinity to ROI . Given  the abuse directed james Mcclean etc , the bigots will hardly stay quiet if wee Sammy from the Shankill declared for ROI.