Man Utd Thread:

[brokencrossbar1]

It's a pointless debate anyway lads .... as you said yourself MR2 .... 2 bald men fighting over a comb!!!

[magpie seanie]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

[Maroon Manc]

I'm not sure I'm buying the poor mouth as a reason for Mourinho's style. He has players like Rashford, Martial, Pogba, Lukaku, Mata, Sanchez but he doesn't want to use them in the best way. He has arguably the best keeper in the world (a major reason for MR2 beloved Goal Difference advantage ), and he has a player like Matic who is a very solid DM. There is the guts of a team there that can play a bit more optimistically. Anyway, I'll step out now. None of my business. I'm a Liverpool Fan

Money has nothing to do with Mourinho's style, that will never change. The football has been very disappointing at times but not every week, this is nothing like we had to endure under LVG. Points wise United haven't done that bad, not to far off where I expected them to be before the start of the season.

I agree we should be better to watch more consistently with the players he's got. There will be no excuses next season when if expected he brings in new players.

[Maroon Manc]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

Pep clearly has out performed Mourinho but he certainly inherited a better side.  Lets not forget he's also spent nearly £200m more than Mourinho too.

Where do you think we'd be with Pep in charge? Look at that squad LVG left, Martial ability wise would be capable of doing what Sane is but apart from De Gea and maybe Valenica at right back I just don't see anyone else who would have been first choice in a Pep team. He'd have needed to buy 2 centre halfs, a left back, 3 central midfielders, a right winger and a centre forward. The sort of money he's had at City wouldn't have been available at OT.

[Rawhide]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

Your not Guardiola's biggest fan, clearly not a fan of Mourinho, out of curiosity would you telling us who you are a fan of?

[magpie seanie]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

Pep clearly has out performed Mourinho but he certainly inherited a better side.  Lets not forget he's also spent nearly £200m more than Mourinho too.

Where do you think we'd be with Pep in charge? Look at that squad LVG left, Martial ability wise would be capable of doing what Sane is but apart from De Gea and maybe Valenica at right back I just don't see anyone else who would have been first choice in a Pep team. He'd have needed to buy 2 centre halfs, a left back, 3 central midfielders, a right winger and a centre forward. The sort of money he's had at City wouldn't have been available at OT.

If they were a better side why did they only finish ahead of Louis Van Gaal's United on goal difference? It's a myth. I'd love to see for example how Rashford would have developed with Guardiola....or in fact any manager who values attacking play and creativity. Think he has massive potential.

[AZOffaly]

Rashford on the left and Salah on the right would be nice

[Milltown Row2]

Rashford on the left and Salah on the right would be nice

You'd still need a defence though 

[magpie seanie]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

Your not Guardiola's biggest fan, clearly not a fan of Mourinho, out of curiosity would you telling us who you are a fan of?

Simeone. Pochettino.

[AZOffaly]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

Your not Guardiola's biggest fan, clearly not a fan of Mourinho, out of curiosity would you telling us who you are a fan of?

Simeone. Pochettino.

Is Simeone not cut from the same cloth as Mourinho? I thought his Atletico teams were very dour?

[Milltown Row2]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

Your not Guardiola's biggest fan, clearly not a fan of Mourinho, out of curiosity would you telling us who you are a fan of?

Simeone. Pochettino.

Is Simeone not cut from the same cloth as Mourinho? I thought his Atletico teams were very dour?

I'd have thought so also, very hard to break down

[Rawhide]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

Your not Guardiola's biggest fan, clearly not a fan of Mourinho, out of curiosity would you telling us who you are a fan of?

Simeone. Pochettino.

Why? Simeone is a cut out of Jose. Pochettino, has some proving to do.

[Maroon Manc]

Guardiola inherited a City team that finished ahead of LVG's United on goal difference. It's seriously overegging things to suggest Guardiola inherited a significantly better side. Who spent the most since then doesn't particulalrly matter as both clubs pretty much have as much cash to spend as they want. If United needed to spend more and didn't that's Mourinho's fault.

Guardiola increased the gap to 9 points last season. Now it's 16. I'm not Guardiola's biggest fan but by any measure (bar a Europa league which Guardiola couldn't win as he wasn't in it) he has clearly outperformed Mourinho. They're actually live contenders for the CL in some peoples eyes which United are miles off.

As for the Spanish media coverage - mostly spot on. I like the word "troglodyte"....very apt.

Pep clearly has out performed Mourinho but he certainly inherited a better side.  Lets not forget he's also spent nearly £200m more than Mourinho too.

Where do you think we'd be with Pep in charge? Look at that squad LVG left, Martial ability wise would be capable of doing what Sane is but apart from De Gea and maybe Valenica at right back I just don't see anyone else who would have been first choice in a Pep team. He'd have needed to buy 2 centre halfs, a left back, 3 central midfielders, a right winger and a centre forward. The sort of money he's had at City wouldn't have been available at OT.

If they were a better side why did they only finish ahead of Louis Van Gaal's United on goal difference? It's a myth. I'd love to see for example how Rashford would have developed with Guardiola....or in fact any manager who values attacking play and creativity. Think he has massive potential.

That City side massively under achieved, they downed tools under Pellegrini. Would need to check but can remember mates saying City only won 5 of last 15 league games. They'd given up as they knew he was going, they were a lot more talented than United. Rashford still has a lot to learn, Pep would have spent big money on a centre forward. Rashford was only 18 when Pep took charge of City.

[Bord na Mona man]

Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

[NAG1]

Think it is pretty obvious that United have 'under achieved' under JM currently in terms of style, however what does that say for the rest of the pack behind United?

Spurs getting all the plaudits, Liverpool getting praise heaped on them and yet they are still behind United who are getting stick from every corner.

Yes JM doesnt let the reins off which is a criticism but he plays winning football. Problem this season is that City have been so consistent.

Id agree that he maybe he doesnt know his best team currently which isnt helping the whole squad. But it is hard to argue with their league position in this particular season.