Ophelia

Started by J70, October 12, 2017, 03:22:14 PM

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armaghniac

Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
It's been reported that the Dundalk kite surfers will lodge a complaint against the emergency services for stopping them. It might well be the case that they felt they could handle the conditions and we're being unnecessarily policed. They should be free to make their own choice but anyone who engages in water sports during a red weather warning should not be rescued.

One issue was that they don't seem to have told the coastguard they would be out, so the coastguard couldn't be sure if was them that the reports were about and not someone else.

On a point of detail the weather warning might have been slightly more nuanced, coming in effect a 8am in Cork but not 12 noon in Dundalk, then they would not have out in a red warning.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Orchard park

the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........

Rossfan

Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
Absolutely.
Fkn arse holes.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Asal Mor

Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
If someone gets a buzz out of extreme sports and danger and is happy to take the risks, who are we to stop them or say it's stupid?

armaghniac

If someone is hsppy to drive without a seat belt and take the risks, are we happy for them to do so.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

magpie seanie

Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
If someone gets a buzz out of extreme sports and danger and is happy to take the risks, who are we to stop them or say it's stupid?

In a society there are laws and precautions taken for the greater good. In this case a weather warning was in place to protect the general population and save lives. These people breached that. We cannot pick and choose which laws or regulations we adhere to. If we don't have these measures we have anarchy which I don't believe is in anyone's interest.

Franko

Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
If someone gets a buzz out of extreme sports and danger and is happy to take the risks, who are we to stop them or say it's stupid?

I'd agree, provided these people are happy enough to waive their entitlement to have the emergency services come and sort them out when they get into bother.  A good dose of Darwinism should sort things out pretty quickly after that.

seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

sid waddell

Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?

That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.

Franko

Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?

That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.

No, we are not.

Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.

Milltown Row2

Guy died trying to clear a tree from the road to prevent accidents..the rest died as a result of trees falling on them, how Sid got  that and twisted it is beyond me!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

sid waddell

Quote from: Franko on October 18, 2017, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2017, 01:39:10 PM
Are we saying the three people who died, died as a result of "Darwinism", so?

That seems to be the impression one gets from previous posts, anyway.

No, we are not.

Now I'm not saying that you are an absolute idiot, but 'one' would have to be an absolute idiot to read these posts and reach that conclusion.

Well, the message was to stay indoors. If the three people that died had heeded those warnings, they'd be alive.

Now, I'm not saying it was Darwinism, but the impression one gets is that others are happy enough to throw that sort of language around when it suits.

If people are calling some people who ventured out unnecessarily "idiots", well, by that logic, aren't all people who ventured unnecessarily out "idiots" too, including those who died? Because the conditions weren't just bad at sea, they were bad everywhere.

Or is it just because they're dead that you're not saying that?

The other language that is being thrown around is that of "leave them out there".

Does this also apply to attempted suicide, one wonders? Because attempted suicide is deliberately putting one's self in harms way.

If people are going to go down the vilification road, shouldn't they first be looking at the employers of that poor chap who died in Louth when a tree fell on his car, for not shutting for the day and forcing him to undertake what proved to be a very dangerous journey indeed?


Brick Tamlin

Seriously, are you being a bollix to be awkward or what.

sid waddell

Quote from: Brick Tamlin on October 18, 2017, 02:23:37 PM
Seriously, are you being a bollix to be awkward or what.
I'm trying to tease out the logic and implications of language like "Darwinism" and "leave them out there".

But it appears the people who agree with such language think they're just being teased.

Wonder why that is.

Orchard park

Quote from: Asal Mor on October 18, 2017, 12:39:01 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on October 18, 2017, 10:54:47 AM
the kite surfers should report themselves for stupidity also and have their names publicised so that no employer would ever get stuck hiring one of the gobshites.........
If someone gets a buzz out of extreme sports and danger and is happy to take the risks, who are we to stop them or say it's stupid?

probably the most appropriate username anseo