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I'm innocent your honour. Have been asked if I got it closed😂

Based on absolutely no facts whatsoever (therefore protecting the integrity, consistency and balance of this thread 😂😂😂)the only possible logical conclusion is that bcb and the rest of those  crossmaglen lads  got the Armagh forum closed!!😚😚guilty as charged bcb!

You'd think all that money Tyrone saved on those foam rollers would have paid for some floodlights.

You'd think all that money Armagh saved on an internal manager would have paid for some flood drains.

Like the ones that keep Healy park in such good order!

[When a cyclist causes a road accident, it is more often than not covered up and table-turned by his Lycra buddies]

Which brings us full circle back to the point of this thread.

Motorists when they behave irrationally, irresponsibly or dangerously, do so as an individual entity and it is their licence alone and their insurance alone, their reputation alone at stake. That's the ultimate deterrent. It doesn't always work, but it does work.

Cyclists don't face this deterrent, which is wrong in itself. But the problem is exacerbated further by the collective nature of road cyclists which sees them seemingly deflect and refute any instances of wrongdoing, and often in a militant way.

That, ultimately is the difference. When a vehicle causes a road accident, it appals me and every other motorist. When a cyclist causes a road accident, it is more often than not covered up and table-turned by his Lycra buddies.
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Nailed it again- and have seen this happen also. A large group of cyclists making all sort of accusations against a motorist. A video was produced to highlight the fact that the accusations made were completely false and it was in fact the cyclists who had acted aggressively and wrongly. Didn't take to long for the previously baying mob to ride on as they had put a dent in the car. This was a group of 20 cyclists and not one of them man enough to take their colleague to task - all backed him to the hilt. Only unfortunate thing was that the police were not called and statements etc taken before video was produced. Would have been able to show them up for the bullying, cowardly liars that they are in court.

I know the normal defence from the cycling fraternity is that there are as many bad motorists as there is bad cyclists and that whenever you highlight an incident "you can't tar all cyclists with the same brush" But the above example shows that this was not one arrogant bad egg acting on his own. This was one arrogant p***k backed up by another 19 pricks.

I have no problem with cycling but cyclists need to show some courtesy on the road and stop been arrogant pricks who feel they have more right to be on the road than everybody else. 

....however I would be in favour it being compulsory for all cyclists (say over the age of 16 to avoid kiddies on stabilisers) to have adequate insurance.  Cycling Ireland do offer insurance through their membership.  Most club cyclists will be but there is a huge amount of leisure cyclists out there who aren't.  I'd even consider compulsory membership of CI for all bike users and give CI more responsibility for ensuring cyclists are aware of their responsibilities on the road.

OK fess up time, as you may have guessed, I do a bit of cycling but I'm just making the point that the "all cyclists are pricks and cnuts" attitude can be challenged.

What would the point of Insurance be- whenever they do cause accidents or thump the side/roof of your car causing damage on narrow country roads they just ride on and there is no way of identifying them.
One incident I was involved in was were after pulling out of the lane of my own house on a narrow country road and sitting  behind a cyclist for about 1/2 mile. During this 1/2 mile the fellow had about 4 places that he could have pulled into and allowed me pass. I politely beeped as I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he did not hear me. He then preceded to give me and my father a tirade of abuse and sat bang in the middle of the road for about 1 & 1/2 miles. I eventually  passed him and jumped out of the car (calmly) to ask him what the problem was. The first thing that came out of his mouth was ' I'll have your house, your car the whole lot if you come near me' as he ride on. I had no intention of touching him but just wanted to find out what his problem was. Brave fella. Protected by his an anonymity but knew were I lived and would have had a number plate, etc.

And this is not one isolated incident with just this lad been a t@sser. Another brave lycra head followed my mother up into the yard and thumped and banged at the car roof. Called the police couldn't do a thing as there is no way of identifying these cowards and by the time police would react they are long gone. And then have the cheek to come crying victim when something happens. Several other incidents like this on our road.

In my opinion, there is a large majority of the lycra brigade who treat other road users like this, as woe betide you would affect their time trials.   All about the stats you know.

The could have pulled in and allowed you to pass ? I'm baffled. Why should he ? What was your rush?

I think you are conveniently missing my point here.
What my rush was is completely irrelevant.

My point in reply to AQMP was what would be the point in making Insurance mandatory for cyclists. They do what they like and ride on, and it is virtually impossible to identify them.  For insurance to work they would have to have some sort of way of making these boys identifiable. At least when a car is involved in an accident you have the starting point of a number plate.

These pricks ride about with no absolutely no respect for other road users and whenever they are challenged about their aggressive behaviour,  their first defense is 'I'm gonna sue you'.

When we were brought up and were going about the roads on our bikes we were always taught that if you see a tractor/car/lorry coming towards you, you ditched the bike and waited for the vehicle to pass. But then we were brought up to have manners.

....however I would be in favour it being compulsory for all cyclists (say over the age of 16 to avoid kiddies on stabilisers) to have adequate insurance.  Cycling Ireland do offer insurance through their membership.  Most club cyclists will be but there is a huge amount of leisure cyclists out there who aren't.  I'd even consider compulsory membership of CI for all bike users and give CI more responsibility for ensuring cyclists are aware of their responsibilities on the road.

OK fess up time, as you may have guessed, I do a bit of cycling but I'm just making the point that the "all cyclists are pricks and cnuts" attitude can be challenged.

What would the point of Insurance be- whenever they do cause accidents or thump the side/roof of your car causing damage on narrow country roads they just ride on and there is no way of identifying them.
One incident I was involved in was were after pulling out of the lane of my own house on a narrow country road and sitting  behind a cyclist for about 1/2 mile. During this 1/2 mile the fellow had about 4 places that he could have pulled into and allowed me pass. I politely beeped as I gave him the benefit of the doubt that he did not hear me. He then preceded to give me and my father a tirade of abuse and sat bang in the middle of the road for about 1 & 1/2 miles. I eventually  passed him and jumped out of the car (calmly) to ask him what the problem was. The first thing that came out of his mouth was ' I'll have your house, your car the whole lot if you come near me' as he ride on. I had no intention of touching him but just wanted to find out what his problem was. Brave fella. Protected by his an anonymity but knew were I lived and would have had a number plate, etc.

And this is not one isolated incident with just this lad been a t@sser. Another brave lycra head followed my mother up into the yard and thumped and banged at the car roof. Called the police couldn't do a thing as there is no way of identifying these cowards and by the time police would react they are long gone. And then have the cheek to come crying victim when something happens. Several other incidents like this on our road.

In my opinion, there is a large majority of the lycra brigade who treat other road users like this, as woe betide you would affect their time trials.   All about the stats you know.

Would I be right in thinking Burns is the only player to receive 10/10 in the Irish News player ratings, for that performance in Omagh?

He tortured us. Think he was wearing 8 that day and all you could see was the 8 rise up for every kick-out and claim it from the sky.

Tyrone won 1-12 to 0-12 but it was the beginning of the end for that side. 

I think that was the day Paul McGirr died after the minor game.

Did he not catch something ridiculous like 15 or 16 kick outs that day ?

And i think KMcG was his midfield partner that day and kicked about 14 wides.

Ray D'arcy