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Tony,

While I'm sure that your new piece of electronic paraphernalia is a welcome addition to your treasure trove of prizes it must surely grate that your latest missive did not warrant any attention on OWC: Fightback.   Given the level of triviality and banality of the complaints on said forum, it would suggest your latest dagger had hardly pricked the skin, let alone pierced the heart of OWC.

5/10: Must try harder!

/Jim.

Finneagans should be your spot...although it's actually run by Scotsmen.

Unless it was sold since I last graced the Eternal City, it is run by a lad from Belfast.  Either way they definitely show the terrorist supporting filth [(c)OWC] politics masquerading as sport.

Shame, etc.. etc. 

/Jim.

Take your word for it Jim, I was there for the Armagh Kerry in 2002, could have got it wrong becuase I'm afraid I was very very drunk...all week.

I was there for Mayo's (latest) collapse for Kerry.  Got chatting to a few of boys once the game was over (which was approximately 15mins after throw-in).  It seemed more geared for soccer with most screens showing soccer.  Sky had deemed they day "Grand Slam Sunday" because the big 4 were playing each other.  The fact that it was about 3 weeks into the season was irrelevant.  However they were happy enough to put the bogball (minor and senior) on for a bunch of us.   

/Jim.

Finneagans should be your spot...although it's actually run by Scotsmen.

Unless it was sold since I last graced the Eternal City, it is run by a lad from Belfast.  Either way they definitely show the terrorist supporting filth [(c)OWC] politics masquerading as sport.

Shame, etc.. etc. 

/Jim.

http://www.finneganpub.com/

/Jim.

...Grand Master of Orange Order, forget to read the script?

Given that Orangefest is the new all inclusive festival for all and sundry regardless of race or creed why did he decide to make a speech about politics, unionism and refer to it's impact on our community???

Will inter-party unionist dispute negative impact on all the community in Northern Ireland.  Maybe some of the community have no problem with nationalists winning seats?

A bit of an own-goal I would have thought?

/Jim.

He is looking fairly frail but I still think he may have the strength to shoot a load into the sister before he pops his clogs.

I don't know if the doc would stand by a baby Flyod.  Given that the doc seems to turn to the drink handy enough there could be dark times ahead.  Always thought he was punching above his weight with Heather.

The new Flyod isn't a patch on the old one.

/Jim.

The only lesson to be learnt here is that irony is lost on the masses.

You are offended because someone said you teach your children to hate like Nazis.  To display your hurt you go out (with your children in-tow) and chant hate-filled slogans like a bunch of Nazis.

It's class!

/Jim.

Fire up the Fightback section!

/Jim.

It is obvious that the "clarification" by FIFA has not clarified anything judging by the circular arguments here and on OWC.  The proof of the pudding will be when some chappie from the six counties declares for (or in OWC-speak: is poached by in a sectarian manner) the FAI.  Of course the IFA will throw a huff, presumably formally and FIFA will have to adjudicate.  I'm certain the will rule in favour of the FAI because though I see the way OWC want to interpret the rules.  My reason for believing this precedent.  FIFA seem to accept that the political situation in Northern Ireland means that there are people who genuninely believe themselves "Irish" (in the nationalist sense) and that the states involve recognise this. 

Therefore, comparisons to Qatar, Spain/Portugal etc.. are irrelevant.  In fact their use in the context of this is arrogant and dismissive of sincerely held beliefs of a significant percentage of the population of Northern Ireland. 

A long way to go here yet but expect the status quo to remain.

/Jim.

Did anything honestly think EG's "alternative" view wasnt coming all along?

As I said, very predictable!

Mathematically I would say that it was about the same predictability as a Nationalist poster having an "alternative" view of a loyalist terrorist.

But there you go.

/Jim.

An alternative view of this "Man of Peace":
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article3985132.ece

Of course, I hardly expect unanimous endorsement on this forum of such obviously Brit propaganda such as the Times of London, never mind someone like Sean O'Callaghan, who has clearly never, ever uttered a word of truth in his life (even in his sleep); nonetheless, I found this particular entry instructive:  

"He may have seen himself as a working-class revolutionary, but he was simultaneously a sectarian bigot. "Keenan believed that the only way, in his words, to put the nonsense out of the Prods was to just hit back much harder and more savagely than them," recalls the IRA informer Sean O'Callaghan. It was Keenan who recommended to Seamus Twomey, then the Provisionals' "chief of staff", that the UVF's random anti-Catholic assassinations should be met with reciprocal acts. The result was the IRA's attack in Kingsmill, South Armagh, in January 1976, in which ten Protestants were murdered in a machinegun attack"

Firstly I wouldn't lend much credence to O'Callaghan's thoughts.  I read his autobiography and many of his articles and his convoluted explanations of his (self-acknowledged) lies doesn't stack up for me.

As for Keenan I would have thought that his involvement with the Balcombe Street gang would have lowered his estimation in the eyes of the on-line republicans here?

Especially given their propensity for striking at purely civilian targets.

/Jim.

I think Croke Park is holding more than enough non-GAA events at this stage.  It would definitely have to be later in the year as more than enough GAA events have been removed from Croke Park already.

Croke Park is about more than just making money.

/Jim.

Its saturation - it happened to dennis pennis and ali g who where also comic  caricatures.

They say all political careers end in failure   

/Jim.

So is everyone happy with kitnag.com on the OWC website? Is there a thread? How many posts?

Snuck in under the cover of darkness last night.  Nothing about it in the Fightback section.  Just as well because it probably saved some lad's PA the hassle of deleting a heap of mails from "Angry from Northern Ireland.".

I think poor old Tony is no longer getting the reaction he used to.

/Jim.

[Not, of course, that this semantic distinction makes a great deal of difference when placed in the context e.g. of Tyone GAA refusing permission for an Omagh bomb victims fundraiser at Healy Park, on the basis that such an event contravened the GAA's rules on being identified with "poilitical" events, so that the organisers had instead to use the much smaller St.Julian's Road (Omagh Town FC), thereby greatly reducing the amount raised.]

Not, of course, that this semantic distinction makes a great deal of difference when placed in the context e.g. of Tyone GAA refusing permission for an Omagh bomb victims fundraiser at Healy Park, on the basis that such an event contravened the GAA's rules on being identified with "poilitical" events, so that the organisers had instead to use the much smaller St.Julian's Road (Omagh Town FC), thereby greatly reducing the amount raised. 

Wrong. It was because of (the old) Rule 42, there was nothing political about it. Indeed, despite the alteration of Rule 42 to allow Soccer and Rugby in Croker you still aren't allowed to play non GAA sport in any GAA grounds bar Croke Park

You're quite correct about Rule 42 - my error. Nonetheless, I think it outrageous that GAA premises can be denied to an organisation which wants to stage a sports event to raise funds for entirely innocent victims of paramilitarism, some of them probably GAA fans themselves, whilst such premises are able to be rented by organisations which are "closely associated", shall we say, with the same (or similar) paramilitary organisations.

P.S. If we are going to be "picky", it is not "non GAA sport" per se which is banned, otherwise we would not have had e.g. American Football or Boxing allowed to be staged at GAA Grounds down the years.

While Rule 42 is not without it's merits in some situations, as a whole issues like the above show the fallacy of it.  It was disgraceful (and odd) that it was invoked in regard to the Healy Park incident.  I also find it strange as proceeds from the first Clare/Offaly replay in 1998 (over 1 million sterling) was donated by the GAA to the Omagh fund.

Either way I stand over the offensiveness and inaccuracy of SammyG's comment.

/Jim.