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Michaelg show us your norn iron passport to prove norn iron exists please, you cant, they dont exist, why you ask do they not exist, they dont exist because norn iron is not a country, it isnt even a province, it is 2/3rds of a province.

Who are "they"?

As for existing, I don't know who in the world holds the definitive list of "countries" but UEFA and FIFA definitely own the definitive list of international football teams and according to then Northern Ireland does exist.  In a soccer context that's all that matters. 

So I don't think michaelg dreamt the Northern Ireland matches he was at.

/Jim.

Of course in a soccer context that is all that matters ffs! It is not a nation, some of their fans, many of their fans believe it to be a country, an actual country /Jim, it is not an actual country /Jim.

Our wee country cant even make it as a province let alone a country but they did put up one hell of a fight in the WC playoffs, which is more than the Republic, a real country did in their playoff game.

/Kevin.

Good man Kevin,

Regardless of what entity it represents Fifa have a team called "Northern Ireland" .  If michaelg calls out that people here can't even refer to the team by it's name then I think it says more about them than him.

/Jim.

Jim, to me saying northern Ireland is about as natural as saying Londonderry, it is a term coined by the british as is Londonderry and I would be curious as to wether you would use the term Londonderry to describe the city of Derry?

If not then that says a lot about you, if so it says a lot about you.

My personal preference is to say Derry. I wouldn't choke prepending it with London in certain circumstances.  I certainly can allow myself accept (and  even utter) that there is an international soccer team called "Northern Ireland".

/Jim.

Edit: As a clarification before being asked I do come from the "Free State" and as  for being a Gael I am fortunate to have a long involvement with inter-county hurling.

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I've no problem with anything. Everyone to their own. I'm just asking the question why anyone feels affinity to norn iron? Like lets not paper over the bigotry associated with the IFA. I'm only asking by the way.

As a Gael with no affinity to them, can you bring yourself  to call their team Northern Ireland or is that a step too far?

/Jim.

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Michaelg show us your norn iron passport to prove norn iron exists please, you cant, they dont exist, why you ask do they not exist, they dont exist because norn iron is not a country, it isnt even a province, it is 2/3rds of a province.

Who are "they"?

As for existing, I don't know who in the world holds the definitive list of "countries" but UEFA and FIFA definitely own the definitive list of international football teams and according to then Northern Ireland does exist.  In a soccer context that's all that matters. 

So I don't think michaelg dreamt the Northern Ireland matches he was at.

/Jim.

Of course in a soccer context that is all that matters ffs! It is not a nation, some of their fans, many of their fans believe it to be a country, an actual country /Jim, it is not an actual country /Jim.

Our wee country cant even make it as a province let alone a country but they did put up one hell of a fight in the WC playoffs, which is more than the Republic, a real country did in their playoff game.

/Kevin.

Good man Kevin,

Regardless of what entity it represents Fifa have a team called "Northern Ireland" .  If michaelg calls out that people here can't even refer to the team by it's name then I think it says more about them than him.

/Jim.

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Michaelg show us your norn iron passport to prove norn iron exists please, you cant, they dont exist, why you ask do they not exist, they dont exist because norn iron is not a country, it isnt even a province, it is 2/3rds of a province.

Who are "they"?

As for existing, I don't know who in the world holds the definitive list of "countries" but UEFA and FIFA definitely own the definitive list of international football teams and according to then Northern Ireland does exist.  In a soccer context that's all that matters. 

So I don't think michaelg dreamt the Northern Ireland matches he was at.

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: January 12, 2018, 11:00:02 AM »
It would be interesting to know if it's a case that FAI and O'Neill have a verbal agreement so FAI haven't got around to drawing up contracts of their own volition or if they have and O'Neill hasn't signed them.

Also if O'Neill is "out of contract" does he still get paid?

Looking from the outside in, it all seems a little shoddy and unprofessional.

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 09, 2018, 02:15:49 PM »
At the last UK election the 18 NI seats were divvied up between the DUP and SF. The SDLP was wiped out.
The politics in NI are completely polarised. It is more or less geographical as well.

SF have to prove that they are capable of delivering change that benefits voters. Otherwise voters will shaft them. 
Maybe the most interesting comment on this whole clusterfuck came regarding SF's respect equality and sectarianism agenda. It looks like plamas.

SF remind me a bit of the Tyrone footballers 2018 version. Very disciplined but no marquee forwards.

The All Ireland that SF are playing for is a United Ireland. They need to have the right people in place to take advantage of the UK's weakness. They need to be strategic. They need to think ahead. Maybe they can't. 

This has nothing to do with the Stardust. This is senior hurling.

I have been thinking about this for a while.  If you look at the long game then all Sinn Féin have to do here is not drop the ball.   Demographics are taking care of things.  In reality in a stalemate situation, it's the DUP that have to make a move.  Playing keep ball will only cost them as they need to widen their support base.  So really the onus is on them to broaden their appeal.  I see zero evidence of that or even an understanding of that from their utterances. 

I don't know the McElduff chap from Adam but I think that Shinners have mishandled things.  If he has done nothing wrong, then they should say so and back him.  By punishing him they are suggesting he did something wrong but by giving such a light punishment it seems like a fudge.  This halfway house effort will be grist to their critics' mills.

/Jim.




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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: January 06, 2018, 08:46:42 PM »
365 to 1! Pretty long odds!

Longer again that he picked Kingsmills bread  ahead of any other brand.  Double it up that he put the writing the right way up too.

All in all  a terribly unlucky man. Remember that he and his like are building an Ireland of equals and teaching respect to all and sundry.

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: British Forces training at Curragh Camp?
« on: November 17, 2017, 10:43:44 AM »
Did they wear poppies last week?

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 16, 2017, 10:34:24 AM »
It is informative to consider the bewilderment of outside observers when it comes to the level of expectation the soccer public in Ireland hold for their squad.   

Squads of greater ability than the current have come and gone, yet we have only graced 2 World Cups.  So, it is no surprising that O'Neill points out that they were within 90 minutes of this one.

On the whole he has done well with this squad result-wise.  As for style, there have been quibbles but style only becomes an issue when you lose.  I think most people choose to ignore the rantings of the likes of Dunphy et al.  Only a lunatic thinks that a 35 year old reserve from a Championship side is going to allow pass teams off the park. 

However, this week is a serious blot on the copybook, not just results wise.   From RTE, only Ronnie Whelan picked up on the fact that players were mouthing off with each other.  They were rattled.  They know that it was their failure to handle a short corner, not Keane's, not O'Neills.   I think the occasion got to some of them.    But we were told his strong point was motivating and giving lads confidence.   Also the half-time substitution smacked of management panic.   

O'Neill owes his employers and explanation for that but some of mad outrage elsewhere, well it's just mad Ted.

/Jim.

Jim, we need to talk.

Don't count so good....

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 16, 2017, 10:00:55 AM »
It is informative to consider the bewilderment of outside observers when it comes to the level of expectation the soccer public in Ireland hold for their squad.   

Squads of greater ability than the current have come and gone, yet we have only graced 2 World Cups.  So, it is no surprising that O'Neill points out that they were within 90 minutes of this one.

On the whole he has done well with this squad result-wise.  As for style, there have been quibbles but style only becomes an issue when you lose.  I think most people choose to ignore the rantings of the likes of Dunphy et al.  Only a lunatic thinks that a 35 year old reserve from a Championship side is going to allow pass teams off the park. 

However, this week is a serious blot on the copybook, not just results wise.   From RTE, only Ronnie Whelan picked up on the fact that players were mouthing off with each other.  They were rattled.  They know that it was their failure to handle a short corner, not Keane's, not O'Neills.   I think the occasion got to some of them.    But we were told his strong point was motivating and giving lads confidence.   Also the half-time substitution smacked of management panic.   

O'Neill owes his employers and explanation for that but some of mad outrage elsewhere, well it's just mad Ted.

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 14, 2017, 09:42:21 PM »
O'Neill hasn't signed his new contract yet and after tonights display maybe he shouldn't.

Send him North. Try and outbid Scotland for Michael O'Neill.

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: Poppy Watch
« on: November 14, 2017, 05:53:53 PM »
Not surprisingly the teeshock wearing a poppy this year. Good old Fine Gael representing the west brits.

This poppy is specifically to remember Irish soldiers who died in WW1.  Monies raised are used to maintain WW1 memorials.  The "teeshock" made that point as to his intent wearing it.

So as a clarification, do you see commemorating Irish men that died in WW1 as "representing the west brits"?

I ask because James McClean in his admirable letter about his refusal to wear a poppy on his shirt, did write he would have no problem commemorating those that died in WW1 (and even WW2).  So I wondering does your "west brit" brush paint as far as him?

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: November 14, 2017, 04:04:25 PM »
I’d argue the Swedes will bring more to a WC than a poor Italian side. If they had much to bring to the table they’d have qualified.

The question is will they bring Zlatan?   

I have a Swedish colleague here and he said the debate has already started.   Zlatan likely to return to play early in the New Year but a lot of Swedish fans are arguing that the team as a collective have played better without him.  Coach won't entertain talk about it as Zlatan formally retired at Euros.

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: Bob Geldof
« on: November 14, 2017, 12:01:38 PM »
Like him or not he is helping turn attention to the atrocities in Myanmar. Watched some of the newsnight film last night. It is sickening what is going on there at the minute. It reminds you how evil humanity can be and how sheltered we can be here.

For that reason I was am giving him a pass on this one.   I think he is grandstanding but if that wakes a few people up to what is going on Myanmar, no harm at all.

Frankly, Bob has the profile that it will generate some media interest, much more interest than the council taking her one back.

/Jim.
It'll attract attention for a couple of days. What are we as a country going to do about it? Maybe Bob might give a shout out for Syria too.

I don't think country will do much.  I think he had a wider audience in mind.  A report on this would get Myanmar in the news in the UK.

Maybe everyone will ignore it or maybe he is a man of principle.

/Jim.

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General discussion / Re: Bob Geldof
« on: November 14, 2017, 09:36:52 AM »
Like him or not he is helping turn attention to the atrocities in Myanmar. Watched some of the newsnight film last night. It is sickening what is going on there at the minute. It reminds you how evil humanity can be and how sheltered we can be here.

For that reason I was am giving him a pass on this one.   I think he is grandstanding but if that wakes a few people up to what is going on Myanmar, no harm at all.

Frankly, Bob has the profile that it will generate some media interest, much more interest than the council taking her one back.

/Jim.

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