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#1
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 01:56:36 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on Today at 01:47:00 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 12:43:47 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on Today at 08:57:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 08:52:03 AMThe wasted life to be no further on 30 odd years later...



No further on?

Been stopped by the British Army recently have you? Or the RUC?

Yeah all those deaths were worth not getting stopped...

Funny enough was stopped last year when there was a dissident threats.

And we are no further on

Did they dish out any sectarian harassment, humiliate you, threaten you, abuse or assault you? Did armed British soldiers arrive from a nearby barracks? Were the UDR there? Reckon they took your details and passed them onto loyalist paramilitaries?

Yeah you must be right then. Nothing has changed in the last 30 odd years.

Who knows? Wouldn't have too much on me in fairness

But what I do know is SF sit in local government with the DUP now, and maybe, just maybe had we looked at doing that in the late 60's we'd have family friends work colleagues alive today.

Be rest assured though, those deaths didn't bring about being stopped by the peelers, it was plain old politics. So again wasted lives. There won't be, unfortunately, a UI in our lifetime

Looked at power sharing in the late 60s? Is that a serious comment?

And no, the deaths of four specific Volunteers in Clonoe didn't bring about the changes we have today, and yes politics did. But that political process was only possible because of IRA campaign. John Major's government had to be bombed into serious negotiations. That's just a matter of historical record.

But hold on, are you now saying there has been a change? I thought you said nothing has changed in 30 odd years?
#2
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 12:43:47 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on Today at 08:57:42 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 08:52:03 AMThe wasted life to be no further on 30 odd years later...



No further on?

Been stopped by the British Army recently have you? Or the RUC?

Yeah all those deaths were worth not getting stopped...

Funny enough was stopped last year when there was a dissident threats.

And we are no further on

Did they dish out any sectarian harassment, humiliate you, threaten you, abuse or assault you? Did armed British soldiers arrive from a nearby barracks? Were the UDR there? Reckon they took your details and passed them onto loyalist paramilitaries?

Yeah you must be right then. Nothing has changed in the last 30 odd years.
#3
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on Today at 08:52:03 AMThe wasted life to be no further on 30 odd years later...



No further on?

Been stopped by the British Army recently have you? Or the RUC?
#4
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 07, 2025, 12:14:42 AM
These are the details, outlined in today's ruling, of what the British forces tried to deny was a case of "shoot-to-kill"

#5
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 07, 2025, 12:09:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 11:53:36 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 08:28:37 PMYou are the one arguing about it, so contestable enough for you. Only one person brought up Omagh, there were plenty others that could have been used

I really don't know what point you're trying to make with this "Only one person brought up Omagh, there were plenty others that could have been used" bit again.

Of course he could have brought up any event. But he didn't. It was very specifically the Omagh Bombing he lied about, so that's the one I am calling him out for lying about.

Again as pointed out, he said IRA he wasn't specific on which one, but you've put him straight on that


Yes because when he said the IRA bombed Omagh, he certainly wasn't trying to suggest it was the PIRA eh? Perish the very thought.

Outside of members of the Real IRA, have you ever met anyone who refers to it in conversation as "the IRA" rather than the "Real IRA"? Yeah me neither.

When you have to go to that level of ridiculousness in search of an argument, then maybe its time to reflect of whether you're just being more than a little bit of a contrarian.
#6
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 06, 2025, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 08:28:37 PMYou are the one arguing about it, so contestable enough for you. Only one person brought up Omagh, there were plenty others that could have been used

I really don't know what point you're trying to make with this "Only one person brought up Omagh, there were plenty others that could have been used" bit again.

Of course he could have brought up any event. But he didn't. It was very specifically the Omagh Bombing he lied about, so that's the one I am calling him out for lying about.
#7
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 06, 2025, 11:15:44 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 06, 2025, 08:48:22 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 07:13:01 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

Are you saying it was the Bad IRA who planted the Omagh bomb and not the Good IRA.⁸

Are you saying the PIRA and the Real IRA are the same organisation?

Well they were until a few months before Omagh, no?

And? Were they the same organisation by 15th August 1998?
#8
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 06, 2025, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 06, 2025, 07:51:19 PMIn fairness LC didn't say "which" IRA did Omagh..

I'm gunna go out on a limb here and suggest that he meant the IRA that everyone on this earth refers to when they say "the IRA" in relation to the troubles. And its not the Real IRA. I'll also go as far as to say that you know that too. Which makes me wonder why you posted that at all.

#9
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 06, 2025, 07:56:32 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 07:49:03 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 07:17:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 07:13:01 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

Are you saying it was the Bad IRA who planted the Omagh bomb and not the Good IRA.

Are you saying the PIRA and the Real IRA are the same organisation?

Let's not get into the specifics, he coulda used Enniskillen


He could have said any attack, but he didn't. He said Omagh. You might call it "semantics" to attempt to be accurate in stating who killed 31 people but I wouldn't.

I wonder if I tried to suggest that anyone other than the PIRA bombed Enniskillen would you back me and accuse anyone who tried to correct me of "semantics"?

It's doesn't matter to be fair, he possibly thought with today's inquiries into Omagh he'd throw it out. Not accurate of course.

I'm not here to back anyone and their views either, I've mine and you have yours

I've said countless times, had you been brought up in the village down the road your view on this place would be entirely different. An accident of birth
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 07:49:03 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 07:17:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 07:13:01 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

Are you saying it was the Bad IRA who planted the Omagh bomb and not the Good IRA.

Are you saying the PIRA and the Real IRA are the same organisation?

Let's not get into the specifics, he coulda used Enniskillen


He could have said any attack, but he didn't. He said Omagh. You might call it "semantics" to attempt to be accurate in stating who killed 31 people but I wouldn't.

I wonder if I tried to suggest that anyone other than the PIRA bombed Enniskillen would you back me and accuse anyone who tried to correct me of "semantics"?

It's doesn't matter to be fair, he possibly thought with today's inquiries into Omagh he'd throw it out. Not accurate of course.

I'm not here to back anyone and their views either, I've mine and you have yours

I've said countless times, had you been brought up in the village down the road your view on this place would be entirely different. An accident of birth
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 07:49:03 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 07:17:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 07:13:01 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

Are you saying it was the Bad IRA who planted the Omagh bomb and not the Good IRA.

Are you saying the PIRA and the Real IRA are the same organisation?

Let's not get into the specifics, he coulda used Enniskillen


He could have said any attack, but he didn't. He said Omagh. You might call it "semantics" to attempt to be accurate in stating who killed 31 people but I wouldn't.

I wonder if I tried to suggest that anyone other than the PIRA bombed Enniskillen would you back me and accuse anyone who tried to correct me of "semantics"?

It's doesn't matter to be fair, he possibly thought with today's inquiries into Omagh he'd throw it out. Not accurate of course.

I'm not here to back anyone and their views either, I've mine and you have yours

I've said countless times, had you been brought up in the village down the road your view on this place would be entirely different. An accident of birth

What village one grows up in, and the right if people to have their own views has precisely nothing to do with the point.

When a group kills 31 people, then it's right and proper that we at least be truthful about what group that was and to not knowingly lie about it.

Hardly a contestable point, I'd have thought.
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General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 06, 2025, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 06, 2025, 07:17:51 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 07:13:01 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

Are you saying it was the Bad IRA who planted the Omagh bomb and not the Good IRA.

Are you saying the PIRA and the Real IRA are the same organisation?

Let's not get into the specifics, he coulda used Enniskillen


He could have said any attack, but he didn't. He said Omagh. You might call it "semantics" to attempt to be accurate in stating who killed 31 people but I wouldn't.

I wonder if I tried to suggest that anyone other than the PIRA bombed Enniskillen would you back me and accuse anyone who tried to correct me of "semantics"?
#11
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 06, 2025, 07:13:01 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.

Are you saying it was the Bad IRA who planted the Omagh bomb and not the Good IRA.

Are you saying the PIRA and the Real IRA are the same organisation?
#12
General discussion / Re: British State Collusion
February 06, 2025, 05:39:29 PM
Quote from: LC on February 06, 2025, 01:45:23 PMThe SAS in Clonoe that night showed just as much disregard for human suffering as the IRA did for the people of Omagh in 1998.  One group just as bad as the other.

The IRA had precisely nothing to do with the Omagh bomb.
#13
General discussion / Re: Conor McGregor
January 30, 2025, 11:04:41 AM
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 30, 2025, 09:57:47 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on January 30, 2025, 12:18:30 AM
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 29, 2025, 11:30:15 PMNo, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.
Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.


Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 29, 2025, 11:30:15 PMHe was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat
Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.


She was also an adulterous coke-head. Not admirable specimens, either of them.

You said she was "no better than him".

Straight question: How is a rape victim who you describe as an adulterous coke head "no better" than a rapist adulterous coke head? (One who also has a penchant for racism, assaulting pensioners, fascism, homophobia, partitionism and poppies?
#14
General discussion / Re: Conor McGregor
January 30, 2025, 12:18:30 AM
Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 29, 2025, 11:30:15 PMNo, of course he wasn't. He behaved like a p***k, but yer wan was no better.
Yes. A rapist's victim is "no better" than her rapist.


Quote from: Dagda Moore on January 29, 2025, 11:30:15 PMHe was brought down partly by his own stupidity, but partly by an establishment bent on bringing him down because he was seen as a threat
Well I mean...it could be that his downfall was down to the establishment being out to get him. Then again, it could also have something to do with him having raped someone. Possibly not helped by him being a pensioner assaulting, racist, homophonic, partitionist, poppy wearing, facist endorsing, adulterous coke head.
#15
General discussion / Re: The Fine Gael thread
January 22, 2025, 04:00:01 PM
Quote from: Don Cockburn on January 22, 2025, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on January 22, 2025, 03:13:34 PMI see 'Blue' Hugh O'Connell, the biggest FG cheerleader in Irish media for the last number of years, has, in news which will come as a surprise to nobody who has been paying attention to how the things work in such circles, gone and landed himself a job as Press Secretary for Simon Harris.

One big cosy cartel.
If Sinn Fein got into power, they'd be hiring Aoife Moore and half the staff of An Phoblacht.
There's no big mystery to it.


Not just whataboutery, but hypothetical whataboutery? Bravo!!👏