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Jaysus lads, this is horrid entertaining stuff 

Declan McKiernan whom is playing great stuff with Killeshandra should also be asked back. He was always a very good footballer,but he is a lot leaner and quicker than in other years.
There are also others such as Paul O Connor(whom has returned to form and is playing great stuff with the Gaels) and Philly Tinnelly whom need to be brought back in and given a proper chance.
I'm not going to attack any specific panel member as they have put in a massive amount of work,but those 3 and some of the others mentioned by other posters are much better footballers  than some on the starting team and the panel.

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There's no way the decision should be Hyland's to make, he simply has not earned that right. He got his second chance after a very tame 2014 showing and we've seen now that despite his best and wholehearted efforts, he has completely run out of ideas and it looks like some of the players are no longer buying it either.

One of the best things we can say that he did though was to maintain a new standard for the type of behaviour and attitude expected of any player who wants to wear the blue jersey. There is no longer a sense that playing for the county team is a 'favour' a player does for his county, there's no more going cap-in-hand to lads with dodgy pasts, giving them chance after chance to swing the lead and wag the dog because we're only seeing the next match and not the longer road ahead. Despite not winning anything, at least the county team is now bigger than any one player and that's how it must stay unless people want a return to the way it was 5/6 years ago. And I think most sensible people have actually moved on from the Johnson issue and it's really only those with the short-term view and no concern for the sustained health of the game in the county that keep calling for his return - they are truly the ones that haven't moved on because there's just no longer any place whatsoever for lads like him, who despite having all the talent in the world have a toxic attitude that infects and stymies the whole panel. I know the post above is just from a wind-up merchant but there are too many people who genuinely would have Johnson back in the morning and that's ridiculous IMO.

So fair play to Terry for staying strong on issues like this and for raising the bar overall. But I do feel he has run out of road and now it's time for someone else to take over. People say we have no forwards but I wonder how much of this is due to coming up the ranks and having a very defensive mindset ingrained from a very young age, because of the degree of success achieved that way? I think a diluting of the negative focus would suddenly see a few lads open up a little and find they have a few more scores in their boots than they realise. For that reason I wonder if Peter Reilly is the answer, he also seems committed to that way of playing?

Which way of playing should Cavan be playing? Look at the size of the Cavan team compared to Roscommon - None of the half Cavan half forward were 6ft (mackey martin reilly and McVeety), Martin Dunne isn't near 6ft or Tom Hayes, Jack Brady, Ronan Flanagan

Enda Smith is a good example of a player Cavan lack in the forward line

I agree.
Others including myself have said it before,we need a physically bigger team. If that means sacrificing some skill for size and speed,so be it.
Certain lads looked like under 16's compared to some of their Roscommon opponents.

As Comeysfield said, Any games with teams featuring county minors won't have to play until the 6-9th of August,all other first rounds on the Bank holiday weekend.

Roscommon didn't demolish them, not many teams do in Ruislip. They will be competitive enough - Cavan should win by  6 or so.

Were Roscommon not ahead by 1-11 to 0-5 points at one stage and then eased up???
I know we can say Ruislip is not an easy place to go and all that,but they are probably one of the 3 weakest teams in the competition,so it really shouldn't be close.

[Nothing to get excited about this weekend, Cavan should win easily]

Nothing to get excited about this weekend, Cavan should win easily. I heard nothing on Argue but Clarke is playing with Shercock.

Absolutely. If we are serious about going on a run in the qualifiers,we really should be demolishing London.

Love the thread title highorlow,although I'm sure the PC brigade will be here to attack you over it soon enough.
I didn't know this went on in ladies football. I must take in a game or two....

Clueless Benny? Dublin are doing quite well against teams who show no ambition whatsoever. Better conditions and with all their players back and fully fit they'll rip these defensive teams apart. They only conceded 0-4 tonight.

Feck me you were impressed by the Dubs? They only conceded 0-4 because Derry are shite and didn't try to attack. Tyrone aren't great and should have beaten them last time out and the Donegal game last year highlighted all their flaws that are still there, have they improved from then? What evidence have you seen to suggest they'll be better against a Donegal style set up this summer than last?

Any team that sets up that defensively are going to be shite going forward, though Derry were admittedly particularly bad. Donegal got every break going last year and I'd imagine that Dublin will simply leave their half backs in their positions when faced with a blanket defence which is all they need to do to beat such teams. It's not rocket science, the blanket defence has been sussed and all the Ulster teams are doing is making games which could be 2-14 to 1-12  into 0-8 to 0-5. Dublin aren't showing their hand yet but anyone, like the boys on Setanta, who thing they aren't working on it in training are simple.

Or  2-21 to 0-16, 2-25 to 1-12 or 3-20 to 1-10,like Laois,Wexford and Meath done last year.
Kerry are probably the only team capable of  beating Dublin in an attacking open game,and I have my doubts whether they would be up to the task either.
Trying to go out and playing open attacking football against Dublin is suicide. There is nothing wrong with what Derry did tonight,Keep it low scoring and close and try and nick it.
This general whinging (Not attacking you on this Zulu) about defensive football and blanket defences is getting pretty tiresome at this stage.

Why is it tiresome BH? It isn't good to watch defensive football so why not criticise it? Football is a rough and tumble game best played at pace where you try and beat your opponent not simply not lose to them.

Why is it all about being "good to watch" Zulu? Defensive games/blanket defences are about trying to beat you opponent,in a war of attrition whereby you manage to outlast your opponent.
I thought this game was about winning,not going out and looking good/stylish.
Blanket defences simply give many teams a better chance of getting something out of a game against superior opponents with better individual players,than going out and playing nice open football and getting slaughtered.

Clueless Benny? Dublin are doing quite well against teams who show no ambition whatsoever. Better conditions and with all their players back and fully fit they'll rip these defensive teams apart. They only conceded 0-4 tonight.

Feck me you were impressed by the Dubs? They only conceded 0-4 because Derry are shite and didn't try to attack. Tyrone aren't great and should have beaten them last time out and the Donegal game last year highlighted all their flaws that are still there, have they improved from then? What evidence have you seen to suggest they'll be better against a Donegal style set up this summer than last?

Any team that sets up that defensively are going to be shite going forward, though Derry were admittedly particularly bad. Donegal got every break going last year and I'd imagine that Dublin will simply leave their half backs in their positions when faced with a blanket defence which is all they need to do to beat such teams. It's not rocket science, the blanket defence has been sussed and all the Ulster teams are doing is making games which could be 2-14 to 1-12  into 0-8 to 0-5. Dublin aren't showing their hand yet but anyone, like the boys on Setanta, who thing they aren't working on it in training are simple.

Or  2-21 to 0-16, 2-25 to 1-12 or 3-20 to 1-10,like Laois,Wexford and Meath done last year.
Kerry are probably the only team capable of  beating Dublin in an attacking open game,and I have my doubts whether they would be up to the task either.
Trying to go out and playing open attacking football against Dublin is suicide. There is nothing wrong with what Derry did tonight,Keep it low scoring and close and try and nick it.
This general whinging (Not attacking you on this Zulu) about defensive football and blanket defences is getting pretty tiresome at this stage.

[Blue and black is an almost unheard of combination in GAA]

Also why do most county teams wear white shorts when they don't match....

I think (open to correction on this) everyone wore white shorts to begin with because players would bring their own shorts to games.

I think you're right. Down started the non white togs craze in 1968...I think.

Down first wore black shorts in the 1963 National League semi-final, against Dublin I think.

Kilkenny wore black shorts in the 1976 Leinster hurling final against Wexford but were beaten by 17 points and that was the end of the black shorts for them.

Tyrone look shit since going back to white shorts a couple of years ago.

Blue and black is an almost unheard of combination in GAA. Light blue and navy is a reasonably commonplace combination, but I don't think I've seen an Inter Milan-style blue-black combination ever.

Maghera GFC, Cavan

Hung out to dry my hole. Gearoid is dead lucky the rules only allowed for a 2 match ban.
Personally i think racist/sectarian abuse should added into thiscategory of offences:
"Category IV offences relate to a minor physical interference (e.g. laying a hand on, pushing, pulling or jostling) with a referee, umpire, linesman or sideline official, or aiming threatening language at a match official. They get you a 12-week ban, or 24 if you have some previous".

Anyway its good that he apologised to Wylie and Wylie accepted it and we can all move on.

I wouldn't worry about the Under 21's, Only Watson,Fortune,Faulkner,Hayes are definite starters,with Ben Kiernan and Liam Galligan probable starters. Others lads were also out of position, Pierce Smith is a forward and a very good one at that.
We will take beating again this year.

Seanie's ankles are in a bad way from what i hear,so even if he were to asked back, he would be in no condition to play.

Another Cavan addition to this list
Liam Buchannon, Ballymachugh

Is he on the senior panel this year? Don't think he was brought in last year after the U21s but I could be wrong.

He was listed Number 24 on my programme for the Rossie qualifer game. He was a sub today against Down also.

Congrats to Watty Grahams,  4-in a row  is some achievement.

Another Cavan addition to this list
Liam Buchannon, Ballymachugh