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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division Four 2023
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20 minutes to play it's looking good for Sligo as they lead 2-7 to 0-9
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Fair enough, edited corrected.
Different C Daly, Ciaran played last year Callum came on last night.
How many have Tyrone on the team from last year? Still a mighty result for Down whatever the context.
it did seem he did not know how seeding worked or he thinks its not that importantQuote“The way the whole season is crammed in now it looks like this is the beginning of the end of the Ulster championship the way it’s all going,” he said.
“We will be going out to try and compete to win every match but we are under no illusion – our main priority is the super 16s. That’s when the real football starts.”
“There is no incentive now to go and win an Ulster championship,” he insisted.
McKeever doesn't seem to have even a basic understanding of the new structure. Pretty much exposed himself as clueless.
Say Armagh did win Ulster this year - that would mean that they would definitely avoid all of the other provincial winners in the group stages which would surely increase their changes of getting past the group stages.
Even getting to an Ulster final would mean they would avoid all of the other provincial runners-up (which is probably not as great a benefit as it would be in other years because of the Connacht draw but most years a 2nd place seeding would mean avoiding one of Mayo/Galway/Roscommon)
By comparison as a 3rd or 4th seed Armagh would be guaranteed to play at least one provincial winner and one provincial loser in the group stages.
Also there is no protection for them to avoid any Ulster teams in the group stages if they end up as 3rd or 4th seed - the only protection/restriction is that the provincial winner and the provincial loser can't be drawn in the same group.
That's before you even consider the advantage the 1st and 2nd seeds have as regards their fixtures.
With all the effort it took to get the new structure accross the line, I don't see any significant changes being made for a good few years so I think that the Ulster championship is here to stay for a good few years yet, even though in time the Ulster counties are bound to be giving out about how it is harder for them to win an All-Ireland. I wonder will any of the county officials look back and realise that voting against the Green proposal effectively brought this on themselves.
The Tyrone result is a big shock. One of the favs for the All-Ireland out in 1st round.Derry and as i stated yesterday they had 11 of their 2020 Minor All Ireland winners on their current U20 team.
Who would be favourites for Ulster now?
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/03/28/mcbrearty-insists-donegal-will-be-a-different-proposition-in-the-ulster-sfc/
McBrearty suggests the squad will be circling the wagons now and adopting that trusty ‘us against the world’ approach ahead of their Ulster quarter-final against Down on April 23rd.
“We have to, because as a panel of players we have been through the mill of it this year between injuries and narrow losses and we are going to have to create a siege mentality because there’s a lot of people inside the county that don’t want to see us do well.
“Listen, there are a lot of arrows in the back there, coming from a lot of places. We’re sticking together, media, supporters, they don’t know what goes on in the dressingroom and they never really will either.
“They can speculate all they want but those lads, the 35 lads in there, will stick together; we don’t really care what anyone else says, to be honest with you.”
Probably a good job he doesn't speak that often as this is a bit unbelievable. Facts are they lost 5 games majority of which weren't narrow losses, they them got rid of their manager and the next day out instead of proving themselves they got hammered by Roscommon.
Circling the wagon is grand but at some point they have to look at themselves and hold themselves accountable.
All that rant has done is place a higher expectation of their shoulders that they are going to come out and win the next game.
A bit silly having the 1st u20 semi the day before the prelim!
Galway (likely) having 15 days between games while if winner of Ros/Sligo * make Final its 3 knock out games in 15 days.
* Ros and Sligo played in 2020 and 21 Minor Finals.
Agree with Cunny..u 20 should have same format as Minor.
It's classed as a development grade so should be about giving each team games.
Strong line out that from Derry, with McEvoy still to come in
Would Ryan McNicholl be involved in that panel as well? he got a bad injury for the minors last year
I must have misunderstood the new rule, i thought Murray and Downey were cup tied as they played for the seniors on sunday past. I thought there was a 7 day rule
Do teams that finish 2nd get home advantage in prelim qfs their should be an award for coming 2nd rather than 3rd.Yes