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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1741 on: May 26, 2023, 07:39:12 AM »
Imagine for a moment that you're invited out for a few beers with the commentators:
  • John Campbell
  • Ben Lowery
  • Sam McBride
Who would crack the most jokes?

Campbell isn't too bad. More business orientated.

Mc Bride ok also but his sentence about the baby boom generation was a bit crazy taken in isolation but if you read the full article, he puts it in context.

I always think Lowry is about to cry every time he does an interview.  Want to go back to a time when nationalists kept their head down.  He hasn't grasped the reality of the demographics in the north in 2023.

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1742 on: May 26, 2023, 08:53:30 AM »
Imagine for a moment that you're invited out for a few beers with the commentators:
  • John Campbell
  • Ben Lowery
  • Sam McBride
Who would crack the most jokes?

I think you would laugh the most at Ben

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1743 on: May 26, 2023, 10:27:34 AM »
Border poll!

https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1661858499062644740

Do politicians ever watch back clips like this and cringe at how stupid it makes them look

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1744 on: May 26, 2023, 10:34:33 AM »
Border poll!

https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1661858499062644740

Do politicians ever watch back clips like this and cringe at how stupid it makes them look

Itís baked in.

They canít turn down the invite.
They canít stop the question being asked.
They donít want a cringeworthy clip but they really donít want a clip where they categorically let the cat out of the bag. So they settle for the former and just repeat a stock line.

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1745 on: May 26, 2023, 10:37:37 AM »
Campbell isn't too bad.

He is as good as Peston and we are lucky to have him.


More business orientated.

Imagine that

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1746 on: May 26, 2023, 10:47:07 AM »
If the DUP manoeuvre the British government into postponing/deferring/cancelling the prospect of a border poll it will be the greatest boost to Nationalism since Brexit.

Another strategic masterstroke by the DUP.

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1747 on: May 26, 2023, 11:09:10 AM »
If the DUP manoeuvre the British government into postponing/deferring/cancelling the prospect of a border poll it will be the greatest boost to Nationalism since Brexit.

Another strategic masterstroke by the DUP.

Will anything formally change?

One of the many constructive ambiguities in the GFA is the wide discretion given to the SOS on when to trigger the 2 polls. Maybe a line or 2 around that not being anytime soon can be chalk off whatever climb down they are going to have to wear on the Windsor Framework.

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1748 on: May 26, 2023, 12:00:45 PM »
im i being correct in saying the dup are threatening the British goverment that they will not recognise the windsor framework unless they make conditions to trigger a border poll harder  will they tell the tories they want a super majority put into law for a border poll vote to be successful.

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1749 on: May 26, 2023, 12:02:23 PM »
If the DUP manoeuvre the British government into postponing/deferring/cancelling the prospect of a border poll it will be the greatest boost to Nationalism since Brexit.

Another strategic masterstroke by the DUP.


if the DUP had even a whit of strategic thinking they would calling for a border poll now

Win it comprehensively 55-45/60-40

And show that there is a significant Catholic Unionist vote out there, happy with the status quo.

And burying it for another 50 years


There's no clear indication within the GFA that if one poll is called another border poll has to be called within a certain time frame .

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1750 on: May 26, 2023, 12:15:45 PM »
If the DUP manoeuvre the British government into postponing/deferring/cancelling the prospect of a border poll it will be the greatest boost to Nationalism since Brexit.

Another strategic masterstroke by the DUP.

There is a concerted effort now, calling for the scrapping of the good friday agreement or failing that a renogiation of the mechanism by which a border poll is called or a changing of the 50+1% rule for it to pass.


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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1751 on: May 26, 2023, 12:21:19 PM »
If the DUP manoeuvre the British government into postponing/deferring/cancelling the prospect of a border poll it will be the greatest boost to Nationalism since Brexit.

Another strategic masterstroke by the DUP.

Completely agree with this.

I cannot believe the gall at them for even suggesting it. It is absolute desperation.

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1752 on: May 26, 2023, 12:21:58 PM »
Border poll!

https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1661858499062644740

Do politicians ever watch back clips like this and cringe at how stupid it makes them look

I see she's decided to engage with ones in the replies so it's obviously been gnawing at her...

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1753 on: May 26, 2023, 12:30:00 PM »
Is there a plan to convert the middle ground?
Lookit

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Re: 6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022
« Reply #1754 on: May 26, 2023, 02:33:29 PM »
If the DUP manoeuvre the British government into postponing/deferring/cancelling the prospect of a border poll it will be the greatest boost to Nationalism since Brexit.

Another strategic masterstroke by the DUP.

There is a concerted effort now, calling for the scrapping of the good friday agreement or failing that a renogiation of the mechanism by which a border poll is called or a changing of the 50+1% rule for it to pass.

Spell out the details of each strand that go to make up the ďconcerted effortĒ to which you refer?
« Last Edit: May 26, 2023, 02:43:55 PM by smelmoth »