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[Collectively I think there's a lack of nous and smartness in decision making when the pressure is on, and I don't see a go-to player who will demand the ball and do something to get us over the line,]

This is getting hard to take at this stage.  It's ok sucking up one near miss on penalties but 4 now in 2 years?  Forgive me as an Armagh supporter for never wanting to see penalties in our games again.  For any  of you neutrals who think it's great entertainment, be careful what you wish for.  A lot said here and elsewhere about penalties being a lottery?  Sorry, that's nonsense. It's down to skill and composure.  If it was a lottery on the law of averages we would have won 1 or 2 out of those 4. 

For me it's hard to escape the notion that we do have a mental block when it comes to seeing out a game, and especially when we are in front.  I've got to the point now where I would rather we were a couple of points behind going into the final minutes where we don't have to think to much about it and just for for it. 4 points up in a game like that where 2 teams set up defensively was a big advantage heading into the last 15.  We just had to match Donegal on the scoreboard but we stopped scoring completely. Just one or two points in that final 15 or 20 minutes would have won it.  Collectively I think there's a lack of nous and smartness in decision making when the pressure is on, and I don't see a go-to player who will demand the ball and do something to get us over the line, whether that is a crucial high catch in the middle, having the confidence to nail an important score, or a driving run to set up somebody. To be fair I thought Nugent showed some of that confidence and attitude but there wasn't enough.

Really feel for the management and players though. It's a tough one to take and will be hard to motivate themselves.  McGeeney has had so many near misses with Armagh and Kildare. He must feel bloody cursed at this point.

Yeah , I'd have to agree  with this.

[PS Soupy Campbell is one of the most exciting players to watch I have ever seen.]

That was a great watch, fair play to both teams for a brilliant effort, that could have gone either way. Horrible for Armagh players [and supporters] but that's sport I spose.  Unbelievable that there are posters saying that was a poor quality game!

Can't fathom why 2 Armagh players refused a mark to win the game with time nearly up.

Penalties no way to decide a game, better to keep playing periods of extra time until there's a winner IMO.

Armagh are there or thereabouts, I would say McGeeney has them at near their max on most days out. He mightn't be the best manager about but for sure there a plenty worse. For those of you who want him out and there are plenty on here, who is coming in to replace him that's obviously better?

It is easy to talk the talk but if that translated into the real world there are a couple of guys on this board who would be doing goals for Armagh in a penalty shootout lol

PS Soupy Campbell is one of the most exciting players to watch I have ever seen.

Really?

Campbell puts in a  good shift , and is usually worth a point or two , but  I'm  hardly on  the edge of my seat when  he's on the ball. 

There are more exciting players on that  team, namely  Murnin and  Grugan. Turbitt  and  Conaty as well. Rian O Néill  can be unplayable , but  he is a liability at times.  Some really silly  fouls and  getting involved in  needless situations

A few things after  watching all that:

Football as a spectacle is  pathetic.

You're hard to please!

There was some  very good scores taken , but  the  match  itself  was brutal

A few things after  watching all that:

Football as a spectacle is  pathetic.

Penalties need to go

I think McGeeney has taken Armagh as far as he  can. I expect change  there

f**k this is shite, playing against Donegal is now just a game of defenders v attackers. There have been some class scores but no jeopardy in the game, hardly any 50/50 contests and zero atmosphere.

Can't disagree with  any of that

Was tight for 55 mins decent effort from Louth but the Dubs will likely win comfortably now.

The Dubs are hard to beat at home.

Are they? It's been  so long since they played  at  Parnell Park, I can't remember

Louth 1 ahead

A shock on the cards?

[so really it's all about pushing an agenda.]

Clearly the Croatian song was by far the best one there, as was reflected by the public vote. However, the juries decided otherwise, so really it's all about pushing an agenda. Just a confirmation of what was probably always the case. Or certainly recently. Can't be letting the public actually decide!

Which agenda  do you think was more prominent this year ?

He  broke  the feckin' trophy!

I say they had machines in Israel dialling in flat out!

I expect Israel to have been given 12 points by the UK

Confirmed. Massive right wing media pushing people to vote for Israel

Gave Ireland 10 too, not sure how that fits in lol

I  assume that's all the northern taigs  voting

Israel are 2nd favourites to win. It would be some mess if they do! Can you imagine the pressure on various national broadcasters not to send a representative?

I was thinking that too.

Maybe the best  thing other than everyone Not Voting for Israel , is everyone voting for them. So  loads of  countries  can all boycott is when they stage it next year (unlikely though. Maybe  only a few would).

I've noticed a  lot of people recently using the term "before the pandemic" or "before Covid" .

Annoyingly, I've even found myself  using it once or  twice.

Another phrase  is "there were no mobile phones in them days" .  Maybe someone talking  about a story from  decades ago.  Well, of course there werent. You're talking about  1950!

Annoyingly, I've found myself saying  that  now too! 

[Were the plantations of Ireland a good idea?]

Ideally, immigration levels would be very low: the problem with massive demographic change is that the host society loses in the long run. Were the plantations of Ireland a good idea?

Depends who you ask

I've bought my share  of tickets . I'm currently waiting on two draws coming up

But, maybe I'm being a bit  cynical here but I often wonder is  my ticket  even going into the drum for the top prize?  I mean, who really knows? Maybe  they just put in the local names  to keep the money in the locality , and chuck the outsiders  into the bin.

I mean, who's to  know you're really in there?



PS. I once won one of the £100 prizes a  few years ago  in  a club draw in a neighbouring county , so I'm assuming  I'm just being paranoid about the whole thing.

Or am I? Hmmm... I dunno.

A warlock is a  male witch, is it not?