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Title: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: The PRO on February 28, 2019, 09:59:40 AM
Group A
Ballyfin
Clonaslee
Mountrath
Colt

Group B
The Harps
Rosenallis
Slieve Bloom
Shanahoe

Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on March 01, 2019, 03:57:07 PM
Tough draw for Slieve Bloom.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on March 02, 2019, 01:13:04 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on March 01, 2019, 03:57:07 PM
Tough draw for Slieve Bloom.
You are letting your guard slip lately!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on March 02, 2019, 01:29:30 AM
Heh! Just a casual observation! Surely you'd agree?!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on July 16, 2019, 11:09:18 PM
Group A

03 August 2019

18:30  Naomh Fiontáin Maighean Rátha vs Colt/St Fintan's/Coillte

04 August 2019

17:30  Ballyfin CLG vs Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain

Group B

02 August 2019

19:30  Slieve Bloom vs Shanahoe

19:30  The Harps vs Rosenallis


From the Laois GAA website, as of 16 July 2019
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on July 17, 2019, 06:08:52 PM
Group A

I was actually at Mountrath and Colt a few weeks away. From a Colt perspective, they were short a few players and didn't have much to play for. They lost by 7/8 but were quite content. Losing the Clonad lads was a blow to them and I'm not sure the belief is there to be real contenders.
I was quite impressed with Mountrath that evening to be fair. They hurled well without it ever reflecting on the scoreboard. They're a physically-imposing team and I do think they could trouble a couple of teams.

Ballyfin, like Colt, will have been disappointed with the breakup of their Gaels amalgamation with Moutmellick. They had a mixed league and having Eanna Lyons back is massive.
They'll get out of the group but I don't see them as likely champions.

Clonaslee look a team in a bit of trouble. A brutal league and an ageing team leaves them looking vulnerable. They'll probably have enough about them to stay up but it's hard to see much more from them.

Group B

Slieve Bloom had a great year in 2018 and their goal must be to stay up this year. The apparent loss of Ben Conroy is a devastating blow and a loss to Shanahoe will leave them staring at a relegation final. They have a couple of good young hurlers coming though but the panel lacks depth and I think they're in for a tough group stage.

Shanahoe are the third team who will regret the break-up of their Gaels amalgamation and will be going all out to get a win against Slieve Bloom in the first game. I believe they trained with Ballypickas for much of the spring so they'd have had decent numbers in the field but it's hard see them competing at the semi-final stage.

The two favourites round off Group B.
Rosenallis are a progressive club and that's reflected in the way they hurl. They're young, athletic and will really fancy thir chances against The Harps. They've progressed steadily over the last couple of years after a mini-blip 3/4 years ago. Wouldn't be surprised to see them edge The Harps in game 1 but I've a feeling they'll ultimately fall short.

And fall short to The Harps. They simply must be the team to beat this year. There can be no excuses. They've the best team and panel and I'm still of the belief that Fintan Deegan is a very good coach. They'll build their team around Podge Delaney and he's the best player at this grade ahead of Lennon and Lyons. They'll have options up front in John Brophy, Ciaran Comerford and Michael Lanigan. The fear is always that they have a soft underbelly but that can't be a factor this year. Anything less than a Championship win would be a huge blow for a club that look to have a really vibrant underage system in place again.

Prediction:
The Harps to edge Rosenallis in the final.
Mountrath and Ballyfin beaten semi-finalists.
Clonaslee to relegate Slieve Bloom.


Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on July 17, 2019, 07:45:33 PM
A much appreciated synopsis--Thanks, Merman!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: MasterJ on July 18, 2019, 08:28:00 AM
Quote from: The PRO on February 28, 2019, 09:59:40 AM
Group A
Ballyfin
Clonaslee
Mountrath
Colt

Group B
The Harps
Rosenallis
Slieve Bloom
Shanahoe



Colt and Slieve Bloom to be in relegation play-off.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Heshs Umpire on July 18, 2019, 11:19:59 AM
Thanks for the post Merman. A great read. Surely this is The Harps year?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on July 18, 2019, 01:37:53 PM
Quote from: Heshs Umpire on July 18, 2019, 11:19:59 AM
Thanks for the post Merman. A great read. Surely this is The Harps year?

They have an unmatched pedigree when it comes to underperforming, but when you look at the other teams, they are all surely too thinly spread to handle Delaney, Comerfords x 2, Boggy, Lanigan etc. all at once. 
Surely!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on August 01, 2019, 06:05:55 PM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on July 16, 2019, 11:09:18 PM
Group B

02 August 2019

19:30  Slieve Bloom vs Shanahoe

19:30  The Harps vs Rosenallis

Go HARPS!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 02, 2019, 09:05:18 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/08/02/this-years-preview-of-the-senior-a-hurling-championship/

Might be of interest Mossy Bruce.
I think the writer greatly inflates the chances of one team in particular but it'll give you an idea of the strengths of each.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: SCFC on August 02, 2019, 10:26:25 AM
Quote from: merman on August 02, 2019, 09:05:18 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/08/02/this-years-preview-of-the-senior-a-hurling-championship/

Might be of interest Mossy Bruce.
I think the writer greatly inflates the chances of one team in particular but it'll give you an idea of the strengths of each.
I see Mick Meath is injured for Mountrath!🤔 is he any relation of Dion Dublin? Someone failed their spelling test...
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on August 02, 2019, 03:12:39 PM
Quote from: merman on August 02, 2019, 09:05:18 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/08/02/this-years-preview-of-the-senior-a-hurling-championship/

Might be of interest Mossy Bruce.
I think the writer greatly inflates the chances of one team in particular but it'll give you an idea of the strengths of each.
That's good write-up and overvierw. Thanks, Merman!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 04, 2019, 10:01:41 AM
Good win for Mountrath over Colt last night.
Colt had the better forwards I felt but probably lost the battle in the middle of the field. It was a decent game, quite physical but with both teams trying to play pretty open hurling.

I wouldn't be surprised if Mountrath were to turn over Ballyfin and top the group. I think Colt will have more than enough to stay up.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on August 09, 2019, 08:23:39 PM
Group A
16 August

19:00 Ballyfin CLG vs Naomh Fiontáin Maighean Rátha    

19:00 Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain vs Colt/St Fintan's/Coillte

Group B
17 August

19:00 Rosenallis vs Shanahoe

19:00 The Harps vs Slieve Bloom    


From the Laois GAA website, as of 9 August 2019
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 09, 2019, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on August 09, 2019, 08:23:39 PM
Group A
16 August

19:00 Ballyfin CLG vs Naomh Fiontáin Maighean Rátha    

19:00 Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain vs Colt/St Fintan's/Coillte

Group B
17 August

19:00 Rosenallis vs Shanahoe

19:00 The Harps vs Slieve Bloom    


From the Laois GAA website, as of 9 August 2019
.
My two pence on the games..

Ballyfin v Mountrath: The winner of this one should surely top the group. It will be a close enough one, but Ballyfin have a Laois senior in Eanna Lyons, and at this grade, that's huge. Ballyfin by 6.

Clonaslee v Colt: Can't imagine Colt are as competitive as they were in recent years in this championship. They'll probably face a relegation final. I don't think Clonaslee are motoring as well as they were last year, but should still have more than enough. Clonaslee by 12.

Rosenallis v Shanahoe: Probably the best game of the weekend puts two of the strongest sides against each other in Rosenallis and Shanahoe. I was impressed by Rosenallis against The Harps, and with John Lennom to come back from suspension, I fancy them to win this. Rosenallis by 4.

The Harps v Slieve Bloom: On the other hand, this will probably be the most one-sided game of the weekend. The Harps didn't set the world alight against a Rosenallis side missing John Lennon, but there's room for improvement. With Ben Conroy out through injury for Slieve Bloom, a relegation scrap looms. The Harps by 20.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on August 09, 2019, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 09, 2019, 10:19:49 PM
...The Harps didn't set the world alight against a Rosenallis side missing John Lennon, but there's room for improvement...
Do you feel Rosenallis would have won the match if John Lennon played?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 10, 2019, 01:13:51 AM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on August 09, 2019, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 09, 2019, 10:19:49 PM
...The Harps didn't set the world alight against a Rosenallis side missing John Lennon, but there's room for improvement...
Do you feel Rosenallis would have won the match if John Lennon played?

It would have went right down to the wire anyway. I think there's a great chance that Rosenallis will meet The Harps again in the final.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 16, 2019, 04:04:02 PM
Ballyfin and Mountrath should be a decent game tonight.
I saw Mountrath the last day and I think they have something about them this year. Ballyfin are a bit more potent in attack but I think Mountrath will physically match them.
I'm going to go against the grain here and side with Mountrath to edge this by 2.

I'll be at Colt and Clonaslee and I think there is room for improvement for both from the last day. I think Colt will have targeted this game massively as they won't want to be playing Ballyfin with a relegation decider looming.
I'm going to give Colt the nod by a single point.

I can only see Rosenallis accounting for Shanahoe with a minimum of fuss. They've a better spread of hurlers and should post a score that I can't see Shanahoe getting near.
Rosenallis by 8.

And finally I'd be really worried about Slieve Bloom. This could be unpleasant as I think The Harps will want to lay down a marker after an efficient if uninspiring win over Rosenallis.
Bruce to be happy with a 12+ point win.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on August 16, 2019, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: merman on August 16, 2019, 04:04:02 PM
...And finally I'd be really worried about Slieve Bloom. This could be unpleasant as I think The Harps will want to lay down a marker after an efficient if uninspiring win over Rosenallis.
Bruce to be happy with a 12+ point win.
Haha. I will be.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 16, 2019, 05:52:26 PM
Mountrath don't have the forwards to match Ballyfins. Ballyfin have a better spread of good hurlers- Lyons, Connollys (x 3/4?), Finn (hurling?) etc. Mountrath have been non existent at minor/u21 for 5/6 years (bar last years amalgam). Couldn't see them winning it.

Colt and Clonaslee is hard to call. I'd agree with Merman. Clonaslee are such an unknown quantity, not just from year to year but also from round to round. Have no solid reasoning for it but will go for Colt.

Rosenallis and The Harps will account for Shanahoe & Slieve Bloom easily.
There is a huge difference between the quality of the Shanahoe forwards and The Harps' forwards. Shanahoe scored 1-20, in Borris!
I dread to think what score The Harps could put up v Slieve Bloom. Morale there must be very low. The only thing that might work in their favour is that Deegan seems to prefer pulling men back and playing "defensively". Slieve Bloom will probably play a man back too. I can see The Harps having to rely on long distance points and may rack up 25 or 26 points, but may not add too many majors to that score. All speculation of course!
Shanahoe will be more spirited v Rosenallis and will find it easier to keep things tight in Mountmellick than Slieve Bloom will in Mountrath.

Overall
Ballyfin by 5
Colt by 4
Rosenallis by 8
The Harps by 15
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 16, 2019, 11:25:52 PM
That Colt win and by that score-line surprised me. If results fall their way they could top their group which would be some going.

Clonaslee St Manman's look likely for relegation final now, although they'll probably be too strong for Slieve Bloom in that decider presuming they finish bottom.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 16, 2019, 11:41:46 PM
Did you really mean to type "Clonaslee by 12"?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 17, 2019, 01:17:26 AM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 16, 2019, 11:41:46 PM
Did you really mean to type "Clonaslee by 12"?

Unfortunately I did. Clonaslee are usually a team who go terribly in the league, but pick it up for the championship. They had a couple of good Laois U-20 and minors that I thought would be of a big help to them

I also didn't rate Colt, as they were poor last year and have since lost the Gaels set-up. That obviously was more a hindrance to them than a plus though based off of that result. Dreadful prediction on my behalf  ;D
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 18, 2019, 09:50:53 PM
I don't think it's fair to say the Gaels were a hindrance to Colt. To be honest, I think it knocked the stuffing out of them a little and they just weren't at the races for the early rounds of the league. Once they were out of the running for a semi-final berth, attention quickly turned towards championship so always felt that they were slightly better than their league placing suggested.

Poor against Mountrath but excellent on Friday night. A good spread of scorers and James Keyes was just unmarkable at times. Clonaslee had plenty of the ball but they struggled to convert from open play. A couple of Clonaslee supporters were saying the interest in hurling has waned and the focus is very much on the intermediate football.

I'd give Colt every chance against Ballyfin.
Rosenallis and The Harps look a step up on the rest, however.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on August 18, 2019, 10:08:04 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on August 16, 2019, 05:52:26 PM
...The only thing that might work in their favour is that Deegan seems to prefer pulling men back and playing "defensively". Slieve Bloom will probably play a man back too. I can see The Harps having to rely on long distance points...
I was able to follow the second half of this match on Twitter. Since the Harps took the lead early and kept widening the point gap, I would have thought there'd be a goal or two in the mix. I can only guess Slieve Bloom did pull a lad or two extra to the back or are the Harps a bit hesitant to go after the net. Was anyone here at the match?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 18, 2019, 10:29:53 PM
The Harps aren't a team to push on and bury a team with goals Bruce. Once they were 6/7 points up, the game was over. They were never going to concede heavily and their forwards will keep tacking on points.

I think it's fair to say they've a somewhat conservative style of play. They played a sweeper throughout the league and though they might not need it for all their championship games, I'm sure they feel that by persisting with it, it'll stand to them come the semi-final and final.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 18, 2019, 10:53:22 PM
Quote from: merman on August 18, 2019, 10:29:53 PM
The Harps aren't a team to push on and bury a team with goals Bruce. Once they were 6/7 points up, the game was over. They were never going to concede heavily and their forwards will keep tacking on points.

I think it's fair to say they've a somewhat conservative style of play. They played a sweeper throughout the league and though they might not need it for all their championship games, I'm sure they feel that by persisting with it, it'll stand to them come the semi-final and final.

It's a bit over conservative surely? Especially considering the level they are playing at. Deegan's blueprint it seems.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 18, 2019, 11:02:57 PM
I think it is a touch overly so alright.
I presume they made the decision right at the start of the year with a view to having a competitive league to build on.

It shouldn't matter what system they play. Anything less than a championship is a failure.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: G@@ on August 19, 2019, 10:57:03 AM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on August 18, 2019, 10:08:04 PM
I can only guess Slieve Bloom did pull a lad or two extra to the back or are the Harps a bit hesitant to go after the net. Was anyone here at the match?

SB were dead and buried after twenty minutes and the game never got going beyond a challenge match pace, let alone a championship match pace.
SB in the second half tried to contain damage by slowing it down, however the game turned into a free-fest as indiscipline crept in. This resulted in three red cards for SB and one for The Harps. The referee was slow to react to much of this and things got close to boiling over once or twice.
The SB goalkeeper was red-carded for a very nasty strike of the ball into the back of Padraig Delaney, which could have caused serious damage to a player who has given the county a great service this season, so this was disappointing to see to say the least.
The Harps were not overly convincing on the night either, I suspect they just went through the motions - grabbed an easy win without having to hit any level of intensity and move on to the next game was their modus operandi.
The Harps and Rosenallis will emerge from the group you would feel at this stage.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mad Mentor on August 19, 2019, 11:13:32 AM
Since the break up with Castletown, are Slieve Bloom in danger of disappearing off the map? Their juveniles seem to have been absorbed into the Camross Gaels conglomerate, Junior C's conceding in the championship and the Senior A's heading for relegation.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on August 19, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
Yeah, they fielded in the Division 5 league all right, and had plenty of subs, too - but I hear since the break-up w/ Castletown at underage there's serious divisions, including lads refusing to play for them, court cases, etc. Of course, Ben Conroy's absence won't help either, but I think they were probably a little foolish walking away from the Castletown thing.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 19, 2019, 12:26:53 PM
If Slieve Bloom get relegated, as I think looks likely, and the Senior A is renamed intermediate...
Could Ballyfin apply to enter a Senior Gaels and include Slieve Bloom and Mountmellick? There are established links there over the last couple of years.
They'd get Hartnett, Bermingham and maybe 1 or 2 more from Mountmellick and would get the 2 Conroys, Delaney and Conroy from Slieve Bloom.

Slieve Bloom will need to get creative or they could lose a lot of promising young players.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on August 19, 2019, 12:31:11 PM
Is the re-naming of the Senior A on the cards? Anyway, wouldn't Ballyfin need to win the Senior A first? Unless, of course, they expanded each grade again...
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 19, 2019, 12:38:05 PM
My understanding, and I could be completely wrong, was that Gaels teams will only be facilitated when there are NON-senior teams coming together.

I appreciate its very unlikely the County Board would accept a 9th team or 10th team.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on August 19, 2019, 02:34:35 PM
They could always join up w/ Trumera, or someone - but if they went and won the intermediate, then what?!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on August 19, 2019, 02:46:51 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on August 19, 2019, 02:34:35 PM
They could always join up w/ Trumera, or someone - but if they went and won the intermediate, then what?!

Ah don't mind me. I was just thinking as I typed. I hadn't really thought anything through.

I think they're in a pretty precarious position. The success they've had in recent years, the fact that players have gotten a taste for senior hurling and the break-up of a well-established juvenile amalgamation is going to see questions asked by players and parents.

Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on August 19, 2019, 05:07:21 PM
Yes, you're right. There was a bit of a buzz up there earlier in the year, but it's well worn off now, and if they're not careful they could plummet in a big way.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on August 19, 2019, 10:58:01 PM
Would be very disappointing to see a club like Slieve Bloom plummet down the grades after all they work put in to get there. Realistically they could be a solid Tier 2 team (call it what you like)  but would need a few more players to challenge.

The age old problem of ambitious players in clubs with limited resources seems to be the main problem here. Every player of senior cship standard from clubs in tier 2,3,4 etc should be facilitated. It helps the player as they play at a higher level, their home club as they dont lose them to bigger clubs, the senior cship as the standard would be higher, the county team as the pool of players playing top level club hurling is bigger. County board should create a group 2-3 respected individuals like Cheddar Plunkett to lead this. They could look to create 2-4 area teams that facilitate these players. Old bitterness needs to be buried. Its only crippling clubs. Would Raheen Parish, Tinnahinch, Castletown-Slieve Bloom, Ballyfin Gaels, Ballinakill/Ballypickas be options?

Maybe its only a pipedream...
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 19, 2019, 11:16:51 PM
I know the usual rebuff will inevitably follow, and I understand the difficulty involved in pushing it, but Parish Rule would serve Laois so well. It has been the "law" for the last 60/70 years in Kilkenny. It's a pity Laois didn't enforce it way back then too when you would have got away it. We wouldn't be talking about the Arles', Mountrath & Trumera, Castletown & Slieve Bloom etc as a problem children now.

Anyone that has been fortunate enough to hear to Ned Quinn talk on the matter can't but have been impressed. It makes sense. Every parish outside of Portlaoise should have 1 GAA Club. Easier said than done.

Not one single "temporary little arrangement" has ever had even medium term positive effects.
The previous poster mentioned Tinnahinch. The best thing Rosenallis ever did was run a mile from that arrangement. You effectively had Clonaslee and Rosenallis doing their best not to win the Intermediate for 4/5 years in the 2000s.


Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on August 20, 2019, 12:46:05 AM
Quote from: G@@ on August 19, 2019, 10:57:03 AM
SB were dead and buried after twenty minutes and the game never got going beyond a challenge match pace, let alone a championship match pace.
SB in the second half tried to contain damage by slowing it down, however the game turned into a free-fest as indiscipline crept in. This resulted in three red cards for SB and one for The Harps. The referee was slow to react to much of this and things got close to boiling over once or twice.
The SB goalkeeper was red-carded for a very nasty strike of the ball into the back of Padraig Delaney, which could have caused serious damage to a player who has given the county a great service this season, so this was disappointing to see to say the least.
The Harps were not overly convincing on the night either, I suspect they just went through the motions - grabbed an easy win without having to hit any level of intensity and move on to the next game was their modus operandi.
The Harps and Rosenallis will emerge from the group you would feel at this stage.
Thanks for the details on the match, G@@. I appreciate it.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 05, 2019, 04:52:35 PM
Group A
6 September
19:45 Naomh Fiontáin Maighean Rátha vs Clonaslee St Manmans/Cluain na Slí Naomh Meanmain

8 September
12:00 Ballyfin CLG vs Colt/St Fintan's/Coillte

Group B
7 September
18:00 The Harps vs Shanahoe
18:30 Slieve Bloom vs Rosenallis
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 05, 2019, 08:18:02 PM
Here's to Slieve Bloom holding fast to minimize a Rosenallis score-fest!  :)

(And the Harps winning, of course.)
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 06, 2019, 06:38:30 PM
Friday
Mountrath v Clonaslee
I don't think Clonaslee have enough to fight for. Realistically it is hard to see them overturning the points difference, even with a win. From running Ballyfin close to a hammering off Colt is a strange formline. Mountrath have a couple of options after their Junior B win, including another free taker and I'd expect them to shade this by 3 or 4 points. Calling a Clonaslee game is always difficult however!

Saturday
The Harps v Shanahoe
The Harps will win and with top spot guaranteed I reckon they may change tack a little and look for goals. They will be needed before October is out! Shanahoe are already guaranteed a quarter final and they will hardly get closer than they did v Rosenallis? The Harps by 12.

Rosenallis v Slieve Bloom
Slieve Bloom will really struggle here. Rosenallis hurl with a fair old enthusiasm to match their skill and youth. It will be difficult for a stretched SB to keep tabs on. SB have lost by 10 & 15 points. This will almost certainly be double figures again, and i'll split the difference and go with 13!

Sunday
Ballyfin v Colt
Colt have quietly restocked with a few bright prospects from their underage amalgam. They have a lot of hurlers and I think around the edges may have more than Ballyfin. There's an element of going for a surprise for the sake of it, but if you take out the meltdown v Mountrath (wides and sendings off), Colt have been going well. I think they might sneak it by 3/4.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 06, 2019, 07:38:05 PM
Thanks for the write-up, there, on the upcoming matches, Keyser Söze!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 08, 2019, 12:05:30 AM
I don’t quite know the structure of our club championships, yet. So what’s next? Quarter-finals, I’d assume. Do they now mix the two groups for four matches, with the bottom two (one from each group) fighting against relegation?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 08, 2019, 12:16:26 AM
Wow. I just saw the score for the Rosenallis v Slieve Bloom match (2-13 to 1-12). Fair play to Slieve Bloom.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on September 08, 2019, 12:23:33 AM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on September 08, 2019, 12:05:30 AM
I don't quite know the structure of our club championships, yet. So what's next? Quarter-finals, I'd assume. Do they now mix the two groups for four matches, with the bottom two (one from each group) fighting against relegation?

The bottom team from each group plays in the relegation final, so it'll be Clonaslee v Slieve Bloom.

The two top teams are straight through to the semi-finals. So The Harps and the winner of Ballyfin/Colt tomorrow will top their respective groups.

Quarter-final matches aren't set yet but it'll be Rosenallis, Ballyfin/Colt, Shanahoe and Mountrath playing one another.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 08, 2019, 12:28:39 AM
I was trying to figure out what reward there was for finishing at the top of the group. Great!

Thanks, Silkyskillssunshinee!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on September 08, 2019, 05:52:21 PM
Colt motoring very well this year. Some turnaround from last year anyway. Still think it will be a Rosenallis v The Harps final though.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 08, 2019, 07:56:38 PM
Senior 'A' Hurling Championship Quarter Finals
Rosenallis v Mountrath
Ballyfin v Shanahoe

Senior 'A' Hurling Championship Semi Finals

The Harps v TBC
Colt v TBC

Senior 'A' Hurling Championship Relegation Final

Clonaslee v Slieve Bloom


From LaoisToday, https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/09/08/laois-senior-and-senior-a-hurling-quarter-finals-confirmed/
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 17, 2019, 05:16:55 PM
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 21

SENIOR "A" HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP Relegation Final
Mountrath 18:00 Clonaslee St Manmans v Slieve Bloom

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 22

SENIOR "A" HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP Quarter Finals
O'Moore Park 13:00 Ballyfin v Shanahoe
O'Moore Park 14:30 Rosenallis v St Fintans Mountrath



From LaoisToday: https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/09/17/all-of-this-weeks-gaa-fixtures-as-attentions-turn-to-hurling-and-camogie/
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on September 20, 2019, 09:19:10 AM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on September 17, 2019, 05:16:55 PM
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 21

SENIOR "A" HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP Relegation Final
Mountrath 18:00 Clonaslee St Manmans v Slieve Bloom

SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 22

SENIOR "A" HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP Quarter Finals
O'Moore Park 13:00 Ballyfin v Shanahoe
O'Moore Park 14:30 Rosenallis v St Fintans Mountrath

you would have to imagine clonaslee st manmans, ballyfin and rosenallis for these three



From LaoisToday: https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/09/17/all-of-this-weeks-gaa-fixtures-as-attentions-turn-to-hurling-and-camogie/

Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on September 21, 2019, 09:44:52 AM
Clonaslee should have too much for Slieve Bloom. Could be a bit of a dog-fight mind. Clonaslee will likely have their focus on next weekend but I think they'll have enough.

Similarly, I simply can't see where Shanahoe will have enough to turn over a Ballyfin team who are on the crest of a wave with their footballers going so well.

Rosenallis should turn over Mountrath but if I had to back an outsider, this is where I'd look. I do like where Mountrath are going. Physically, they'll trouble Rosenallis but it's their lack of scores from play that will likely be their undoing. Rosenallis are the Senior A team best equipped to tackle The Harps but I'm not convinced they're going as well as they were last year.

Clonaslee by 6
Ballyfin by 8
Rosenallis by 3
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on September 22, 2019, 11:10:06 AM
Clonaslee relegated a bit of a shock and they were one of the favourites to win it. Fair play to slieve bloom
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on September 22, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
Quote from: merman on September 21, 2019, 09:44:52 AM
Rosenallis should turn over Mountrath but if I had to back an outsider, this is where I'd look. I do like where Mountrath are going. Physically, they'll trouble Rosenallis but it's their lack of scores from play that will likely be their undoing. Rosenallis are the Senior A team best equipped to tackle The Harps but I'm not convinced they're going as well as they were last year.

Rosenallis by 3

Eh.....
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 22, 2019, 05:29:26 PM
SENIOR 'A' HURLING CHAMPIONSHIP SEMI FINALS

The Harps v Ballyfin

Colt v Rosenallis
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on September 22, 2019, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: merman on September 22, 2019, 03:44:53 PM
Quote from: merman on September 21, 2019, 09:44:52 AM
Rosenallis should turn over Mountrath but if I had to back an outsider, this is where I'd look. I do like where Mountrath are going. Physically, they'll trouble Rosenallis but it's their lack of scores from play that will likely be their undoing. Rosenallis are the Senior A team best equipped to tackle The Harps but I'm not convinced they're going as well as they were last year.

Rosenallis by 3

Eh.....

Well, you were certainly right about the lack of scores from play! N'ere a one at all, I think! I would compliment their goalie for holding nearly all the balls that dropped short in such atrocious conditions, but the only other noteworthy thing about the game was Paddy Keating's goal in the second half. Pure class.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on September 23, 2019, 09:07:30 AM
both ballyfin and rosenallis impressive yesterday in them conditions, i dont think the harps will get it all their own way as alot of hurling in this grade yet.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on September 30, 2019, 07:11:47 PM
5 October 2019
19:00
Colt/St Fintan's/Coillte vs Rosenallis
O'Moore Park

7 October 2019
19:45
The Harps vs Ballyfin
O'Moore Park


From http://www.laoisgaa.ie/ [30 Sept. 2019]
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 01, 2019, 09:01:58 AM
rosenallis should have to much for colt but with ballyfin in a replay this week in football and such heavy underfoot conditions it might just hamper them abit against a fresh harps team
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
A Rosenallis v The Harps final looks nailed on. It would be some achievement if Rosenallis were Senior in both codes considering the base from which they came from. They could be the best dual club in the county!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
A Rosenallis v The Harps final looks nailed on. It would be some achievement if Rosenallis were Senior in both codes considering the base from which they came from. They could be the best dual club in the county!
Surely thats Ballyfin
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
A Rosenallis v The Harps final looks nailed on. It would be some achievement if Rosenallis were Senior in both codes considering the base from which they came from. They could be the best dual club in the county!
Surely thats Ballyfin

Could be either depending on if one of then goes up!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
A Rosenallis v The Harps final looks nailed on. It would be some achievement if Rosenallis were Senior in both codes considering the base from which they came from. They could be the best dual club in the county!
Surely thats Ballyfin

Could be either depending on if one of then goes up!

But Ballyfin are in a senior football semi final, and have played both codes at senior in recent years. For all you know, Rosenallis could come down in both next year.

Both to be commended nonetheless and make a nonsense of the dual club/player thing.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 01, 2019, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
A Rosenallis v The Harps final looks nailed on. It would be some achievement if Rosenallis were Senior in both codes considering the base from which they came from. They could be the best dual club in the county!
Surely thats Ballyfin

Could be either depending on if one of then goes up!

But Ballyfin are in a senior football semi final, and have played both codes at senior in recent years. For all you know, Rosenallis could come down in both next year.

Both to be commended nonetheless and make a nonsense of the dual club/player thing.
i would shade ballyfin also as rosenallis only after going up and had relatively handy draws in both codes. ballyfin continue to impress.
would any1 in here class abbleyiex and ballyroan/abbey as dual or how many play both codes?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: The PRO on October 01, 2019, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: Neutralobserver on October 01, 2019, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
A Rosenallis v The Harps final looks nailed on. It would be some achievement if Rosenallis were Senior in both codes considering the base from which they came from. They could be the best dual club in the county!
Surely thats Ballyfin

Could be either depending on if one of then goes up!

But Ballyfin are in a senior football semi final, and have played both codes at senior in recent years. For all you know, Rosenallis could come down in both next year.

Both to be commended nonetheless and make a nonsense of the dual club/player thing.
i would shade ballyfin also as rosenallis only after going up and had relatively handy draws in both codes. ballyfin continue to impress.
would any1 in here class abbleyiex and ballyroan/abbey as dual or how many play both codes?
Ballyroan Abbey and Abbeyleix are not a dual club. No way.
Ballyroan Abbey footballers hurl with Colt, Abbeyleix, Ballypickas and Patk Ratheniska and maybe other hurling clubs.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 01, 2019, 03:05:22 PM
Quote from: The PRO on October 01, 2019, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: Neutralobserver on October 01, 2019, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 11:15:58 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 11:10:02 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on October 01, 2019, 10:53:07 AM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 01, 2019, 10:44:05 AM
A Rosenallis v The Harps final looks nailed on. It would be some achievement if Rosenallis were Senior in both codes considering the base from which they came from. They could be the best dual club in the county!
Surely thats Ballyfin

Could be either depending on if one of then goes up!

But Ballyfin are in a senior football semi final, and have played both codes at senior in recent years. For all you know, Rosenallis could come down in both next year.

Both to be commended nonetheless and make a nonsense of the dual club/player thing.
i would shade ballyfin also as rosenallis only after going up and had relatively handy draws in both codes. ballyfin continue to impress.
would any1 in here class abbleyiex and ballyroan/abbey as dual or how many play both codes?
Ballyroan Abbey and Abbeyleix are not a dual club. No way.
Ballyroan Abbey footballers hurl with Colt, Abbeyleix, Ballypickas and Patk Ratheniska and maybe other hurling clubs.
thanks for clarifying that
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on October 04, 2019, 09:51:12 AM
A couple of weeks ago, I felt Colt had a chance of an upset. Preparations were going well and the Group Format saw them find a bit of form and players had fitted into positions that were really suiting them. They were hitting scores from distance and were tightening up at the other end, though concerns still persisted.
However, Rosenallis' obliteration of Mountrath put down a serious marker and I'm not sure how they'll be stopped in this one. They have scoring threats all over the pitch and barring a Football hangover, I think they'll have too much.

Rosenallis by 8.

Ballyfin should be leggy. The heavy going and hectic schedule should be telling but the closer I get, the more I think they have a chance here.
The caveat is that in Podge Delaney, The Harps have the classiest operator in this division. He's capable of dominating this game and if he does, The Harps win. If however, Ballyfin get a sniff and take the game to The Harps, their power and athleticism might strangle this game and negate the sweeper. If that happens, they could test The Harps defence severely and I think there are frailties there.
The Harps should win. They're the best team in the competition but I've a feeling they might come up just short...

Ballyfin by 2.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 04, 2019, 09:23:52 PM
Hats off to county board and harps club for allowing ballyfin extra few days for recovery following football heroics. True sportsmanship there
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 05, 2019, 10:33:19 AM
I think this will be relatively straightforward is.

I was confident that Colt Would be able to hold Ballyfin, but Rosenallis are a different proposition. They carry a far greater spread of scoring threats than Ballyfin. I actually think they have reached the stage of the year where the distractions have lessened. No football in the coming weeks and I'm sure there is no conflict or dilemma about the Laois hurling championship taking precedence over the Leinster football to come. At the end of the day this is a limited, but honest, Colt team. They are building and getting younger but the fact remains that Chris Murray is still the main man and ultimately his contribution will decide how close they get.

I cannot see the harps slipping up in the other one. They are comfortable E and mid-ranking senior team. Unless they go into a meltdown or Deegan tightens the conservative rein even further, they will have more than enough here. They won't win by 10 points but I think will be comfortable winning by half that figure. I just don't see the spread of hurlers that others seem to see in Ballyfin. Colt Fairly comfortably Wrapped them up and this is a serious step up on Colt.

So for me it's Rosenallis by six and The Harps by five.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on October 05, 2019, 06:35:21 PM
Quote from: Neutralobserver on October 04, 2019, 09:23:52 PM
Hats off to county board and harps club for allowing ballyfin extra few days for recovery following football heroics. True sportsmanship there
What date will this match be rescheduled to?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 05, 2019, 07:33:31 PM
Put back until monday night
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on October 05, 2019, 08:24:57 PM
Colt 0-9
Rosenallis 3-15

Jayz, quite a trouncing, there.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 05, 2019, 09:47:34 PM
Crest of a wave for rosenallis. Don't b surprised to see them winning this out
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on October 05, 2019, 10:28:32 PM
Rosenallis were outstanding.
Colt just never got close enough to them. Too fast, too powerful and too many scoring options.

Good year for Colt but huge concerns about how consistent they can be at sustaining even this level.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Hurleronthefence on October 07, 2019, 11:02:56 AM
Rosenallis are very strong, and cant see them being bet in the final.

Not sure where Merman is from, but couldn't agree with his assertions on Colt- they have the smallest pick from the 4no teams in the semi's.

Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: merman on October 07, 2019, 11:24:53 AM
Quote from: Hurleronthefence on October 07, 2019, 11:02:56 AM
Rosenallis are very strong, and cant see them being bet in the final.

Not sure where Merman is from, but couldn't agree with his assertions on Colt- they have the smallest pick from the 4no teams in the semi's.

I'm not really sure what you disagree with.

My concern for Colt is that we don't have huge numbers coming through. Realistically, they're a couple of players short of being competitive at this grade (despite topping their group) and there isn't a whole lot coming through to supplement the current team/panel.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on October 07, 2019, 11:32:10 AM
Colt essentially have nothing coming through. They'll be in big trouble in 10 years, or so. Same w/ Shanahoe.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: clonadmad on October 07, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
I know this isn't the popular view in a lot of places but Colt shanahoe and ourselves need to do some hard talking at adult level.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on October 07, 2019, 01:12:59 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on October 07, 2019, 01:02:53 PM
I know this isn't the popular view in a lot of places but Colt shanahoe and ourselves need to do some hard talking at adult level.

Absolutely. Look at Borris-Kilcotton for example. Merged in 2011 and have won a county senior title since, and they are probably slight favourites to win it again this year.

Obviously it's not all about success, and pride of the parish is apart of GAA culture as well. But when numbers are dwindling like they are in some areas around the county, some sort of action needs to be taken.

You could make this same argument for some footballing areas as well. Progressive thinking is needed if Laois want to sustain and grow from the level they're at as a strong dual county.

Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on October 07, 2019, 09:20:13 PM
I was only able to following The Harps v Ballyfin match via Twitter but it looked like the Harps were on fire. And what a way to open a match with a goal by Cieran Comerford. Great job, lads!

It will be one helluva final.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Unlaoised on October 07, 2019, 10:40:03 PM
Ballyfin were poor looked like a team not coached at all.

The Harps were physical and well drilled but hit too many sides to be considered favourites for the final .

Ballyfin had a great year for such a small club they can be proud but the best two teams by far are in the final
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 07, 2019, 11:38:21 PM
The margin of victory was a little surprising, but the results as expected.
I didn't get to either but from what I have heard and read the two beaten semi finalists are simply very very limited.

A bit of doom and gloom about Colt and their future, but I think they have a brighter one than Ballyfin in the next few years.
Underage has been cruelly neglected in that parish for several years. Hop into bed with anyone, under any name and any jersey. It's hardly the way to build a club, an identity or produce a strong squad.
Colt, in fairness to them were involved in a steady long term arrangement and always pulled their weight in it. It's a bit more muddied now, but they are committed to it at least.

The Harps and Rosenallis are the top two, and it will be a good game. I'll reserve judgement for now!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Downtheroad on October 07, 2019, 11:55:08 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on October 07, 2019, 11:38:21 PM
The margin of victory was a little surprising, but the results as expected.
I didn't get to either but from what I have heard and read the two beaten semi finalists are simply very very limited.

A bit of doom and gloom about Colt and their future, but I think they have a brighter one than Ballyfin in the next few years.
Underage has been cruelly neglected in that parish for several years. Hop into bed with anyone, under any name and any jersey. It's hardly the way to build a club, an identity or produce a strong squad.
Colt, in fairness to them were involved in a steady long term arrangement and always pulled their weight in it. It's a bit more muddied now, but they are committed to it at least.

The Harps and Rosenallis are the top two, and it will be a good game. I'll reserve judgement for now!
Considering Ballyfin got to the senior football semi, it's a cheap shot having a go at them as a lot of their key players play both codes. They looked a tired team tonight.   
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 08, 2019, 12:14:06 AM
Not a cheap shot at all. It's fact. I'm not well acquainted with what they have coming through in that code. Read what I have said as it was written, not with any other self prescribed agenda.
I've been saying all year here that they are very limited, not waiting for defeat to say it.
It's a discussion board right?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Spiritof1915 on October 08, 2019, 04:33:36 AM
Quote from: Unlaoised on October 07, 2019, 10:40:03 PM
Ballyfin were poor looked like a team not coached at all

The Harps were physical and well drilled but hit too many sides to be considered favourites for the final .

Ballyfin had a great year for such a small club they can be proud but the best two teams by far are in the final
Unspectacular win for the harps this evening. Very wasteful in their shooting in the 2nd half which maybe was affected by the months break.
Ballyfin seemed intent on winning the physical battle to the detriment of some of the players performances. If they just hurled the score would of been a lot closer.
It will be a tight final with rosenallis flying at the moment. Its whoever produces the performance on the day will win.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 08, 2019, 09:52:57 AM
Makes for 2 great games in O'Moore Park on Oct 20th. Hope the weather is good for it. Hard to call each match.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on October 16, 2019, 08:27:37 PM
Has Rosenallis hurled at the Senior Championship level before? If so, when was the last year they did this? Thanks.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on October 16, 2019, 08:36:00 PM
They certainly have - as part of the Tinnahinch set-up w/ Clonaslee (which ended in around 2005?), and on their own, last time in the early '90s, I think.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on October 16, 2019, 08:41:36 PM
Thanks, Burdizzo.

I'm working on building up my knowledge of club hurling--a slow (very slow) process for me.  :-\
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 16, 2019, 09:04:50 PM
At one stage (around 1997ish) they played Senior as an area team with Mountmellick & Ballyfin too. They may well have been senior on their own at the time and simply "bulked up". They had a couple of really class hurlers in Declan Conroy & Seamus Dooley who hurled with Laois from 1993-2002 approx. Two really good guys.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 19, 2019, 10:42:38 PM
Genuinely can't make up my mind for tomorrow's game.

Rosenallis as a club have been on such an upward journey that a set back is almost inevitable. In the long run it might not matter as barring absolute calamity the loser here will climb the steps in 12 months time.

The Harps.
Talented hurlers, a  hurt from last year and a "clever" coach in Deegan, who will really have taken last years result badly. As a club they having a fairytale couple of weeks and will feel all is starting to come together.
In reality they are a senior team in all but name, and I think this will corrected before tea time tomorrow.

Rosenallis are a club I cannot say enough good things about. Unfortunately (and this year will be seen as progress), tomorrow will probably prove a step too far.

The Harps by 4.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 20, 2019, 12:38:31 AM
The harps favourites again and this has proved their stumbling block in the past as alot of pundits see them as a senior club. Reminds me alot of timahoe in football. So with that added pressure rosenallis have a chance and on a high.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on October 20, 2019, 06:25:39 AM
Damn excited to follow the match, even though it'll be 6:00 am here!
Go Harps! Rattle the net, rattle the net!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: SCFC on October 20, 2019, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on October 20, 2019, 06:25:39 AM
Damn excited to follow the match, even though it'll be 6:00 am here!
Go Harps! Rattle the net, rattle the net!
Full match commentary will be online Bruce. Midlands 103. Won't be on any app as it won't be their regular programming. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on October 20, 2019, 01:26:46 PM
Quote from: SCFC on October 20, 2019, 11:13:15 AM
Quote from: Mossy Bruce on October 20, 2019, 06:25:39 AM
Damn excited to follow the match, even though it'll be 6:00 am here!
Go Harps! Rattle the net, rattle the net!
Full match commentary will be online Bruce. Midlands 103. Won't be on any app as it won't be their regular programming. Enjoy!
That's fantastic! Thanks, SCFC.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 20, 2019, 08:41:05 PM
Congrats to Rosenallis. Better team today. Harps don't have enough quality hurlers yet. Some of their underage talent needs to come through for them to be a serious senior prospect as well.

Some achievement for Rosenallis. They are going to be up against it next year trying to compete in both codes at senior. Some lovely hurlers though.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on October 20, 2019, 08:54:42 PM
Amazing how Harps only started to hurl in the last 10 minutes - or was it simply that Rosenalis stopped playing, almost out of fear, with the finish-line in sight? Aside from Lennon, Fennell, and Keating, John Maher caught the eye at corner back. Probably a bit small for inter-county, but still and all, he had a good game.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: blueandwhite1 on October 20, 2019, 10:25:31 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 20, 2019, 08:54:42 PM
Amazing how Harps only started to hurl in the last 10 minutes - or was it simply that Rosenalis stopped playing, almost out of fear, with the finish-line in sight? Aside from Lennon, Fennell, and Keating, John Maher caught the eye at corner back. Probably a bit small for inter-county, but still and all, he had a good game.

Full forward played very well. Beano I heard him being called. Looked more dangerous than any of the Harps forwards.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Neutralobserver on October 21, 2019, 09:54:34 AM
great win for rosenallis but again it was a very disappointing performance from the harps, relying to much on lannigan. centre back for rosenallis was good, although harps did come back at them rosenallis did not panic on the field or the line so maybe they learned something from the football against clonaslee where they nearly threw it away, going to be very tough on them now going through leinster in both codes
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Spiritof1915 on October 21, 2019, 12:35:34 PM
The Harps. Mayo of laois hurling
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: redsetanta on October 23, 2019, 10:06:08 AM
I only got in for the second half of this game and a Rosenallis were looking like easy winners they were that dominant. They were far more tenacious in the tackle and looked the hungrier team. They also had forwards who found it easier to get the points. It would have been daylight robbery if The Harps had of squeezed a win with their rally after they got the goal.
Harps looked disorganised and at times looked like an intermediate or junior team.

I didn't think the ref was great at all and let a lot of dangerous pulls go unpunished. It was a hard physical game and I felt he let it flow at times when he blown. He certainly blew enough times for over carrying.

Also, can someone tell the Harps to change the colour of the jersey numbers. Very hard to make out who was on the ball at times because it was hard to read the number.

Best of luck to Rosenallis in the Leinster campaign but between the hurling and football all these games will catch up on them. Clubs in the county should look at their set up and take it on board. A fantastic achievement for a small rural club.

What exactly have they done to get to this point?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: clonadmad on October 23, 2019, 11:39:07 AM
Quote from: redsetanta on October 23, 2019, 10:06:08 AM
I only got in for the second half of this game and a Rosenallis were looking like easy winners they were that dominant. They were far more tenacious in the tackle and looked the hungrier team. They also had forwards who found it easier to get the points. It would have been daylight robbery if The Harps had of squeezed a win with their rally after they got the goal.
Harps looked disorganised and at times looked like an intermediate or junior team.

I didn't think the ref was great at all and let a lot of dangerous pulls go unpunished. It was a hard physical game and I felt he let it flow at times when he blown. He certainly blew enough times for over carrying.

Also, can someone tell the Harps to change the colour of the jersey numbers. Very hard to make out who was on the ball at times because it was hard to read the number.

Best of luck to Rosenallis in the Leinster campaign but between the hurling and football all these games will catch up on them. Clubs in the county should look at their set up and take it on board. A fantastic achievement for a small rural club.

What exactly have they done to get to this point?

they have the right people involved at juvenile level,well coached juvenile teams,excellent player retention
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on October 23, 2019, 06:57:11 PM
In fairness, The Harps have good underage teams, too.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: Mossy Bruce on December 04, 2019, 08:31:09 PM
Story in LaoisToday:

"Laois GAA's decision to change the name of the Senior 'A' hurling championship to Premier Intermediate has paved the way for area teams to enter the Senior hurling championship."

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/12/04/name-change-paves-the-way-for-area-teams-in-laois-senior-hurling-championship/
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: blueandwhite1 on December 09, 2019, 03:15:13 PM
"Clonad's Donie Norton felt that, with the stroke of a pen, Laois GAA was relegating a lot of players from senior to intermediate."

Tit. They are already intermediate if they cannot win the senior championship.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: clonadmad on December 09, 2019, 05:20:45 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on December 09, 2019, 03:15:13 PM
"Clonad's Donie Norton felt that, with the stroke of a pen, Laois GAA was relegating a lot of players from senior to intermediate."

Tit. They are already intermediate if they cannot win the senior championship.

At least now

They are intermediate, which is what they were and are all along and they can now play in the leinster IHC championship
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: blueandwhite1 on December 09, 2019, 05:30:30 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on December 09, 2019, 05:20:45 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on December 09, 2019, 03:15:13 PM
"Clonad's Donie Norton felt that, with the stroke of a pen, Laois GAA was relegating a lot of players from senior to intermediate."

Tit. They are already intermediate if they cannot win the senior championship.

At least now

They are intermediate, which is what they were and are all along and they can now play in the leinster IHC championship

Who is going to tell all the Intermediate teams they are now Junior A?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: clonadmad on December 09, 2019, 10:51:41 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on December 09, 2019, 05:30:30 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on December 09, 2019, 05:20:45 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on December 09, 2019, 03:15:13 PM
"Clonad's Donie Norton felt that, with the stroke of a pen, Laois GAA was relegating a lot of players from senior to intermediate."

Tit. They are already intermediate if they cannot win the senior championship.

At least now

They are intermediate, which is what they were and are all along and they can now play in the leinster IHC championship

Who is going to tell all the Intermediate teams they are now Junior A?


That's the fun part isn't it
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: burdizzo on December 09, 2019, 11:03:46 PM
Eh? Am I missing something? The Senior 'A' is now going to be called Premier Intermediate, and Intermediate is going to remain as Intermediate. The Senior 'A'/ Premier Intermediate teams play in the Leinster Intermediate championship as it is. And Junior A will remain Junior A.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: clonadmad on December 10, 2019, 08:15:42 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on December 09, 2019, 11:03:46 PM
Eh? Am I missing something? The Senior 'A' is now going to be called Premier Intermediate, and Intermediate is going to remain as Intermediate. The Senior 'A'/ Premier Intermediate teams play in the Leinster Intermediate championship as it is. And Junior A will remain Junior A.

No

you have it right
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: blueandwhite1 on December 10, 2019, 10:50:17 AM
Quote from: burdizzo on December 09, 2019, 11:03:46 PM
Eh? Am I missing something? The Senior 'A' is now going to be called Premier Intermediate, and Intermediate is going to remain as Intermediate. The Senior 'A'/ Premier Intermediate teams play in the Leinster Intermediate championship as it is. And Junior A will remain Junior A.

I think the point is that you can call them what you want but in reality we have 8 Senior hurling teams, a second tier which is Intermediate and the tier below that is Junior. Our Intermediate championship is really a Junior A championship. Only our Senior A champs, Rosenallis, played in the Leinster intermediate championship this year.  Mountmellick represented the Intermediate champions in the Leinster junior championship as the last non-second team standing in our third tier. I assume it will be the same next year?
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on December 10, 2019, 11:32:16 AM
100%.

Its hilarious how people get so hung up on the name of a cship. If you are senior you are in the top 8. Next grade you are 9-16th position. Followed by 17th-24th.

Clubs focus should be moving up the rankings, upskilling hurlers, creating opportunities to improve (at all grades) not cribbing over the name of the competition.
Title: Re: Laois Senior B Hurling Championship 2019
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on December 10, 2019, 10:37:09 PM
the significance of the title does have an impact.

clubs deemed to be senior pay a bigger annual premium to the county board, as there is a tiered payment/levy structure for junior/intermediate/senior clubs.