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« Reply #17550 on: November 19, 2021, 10:00:54 PM »
Now that we have put categories on those in Hospital should we broaden our horizons.

Heavy Drinkers, smokers and even lazy fat f***s. All these have been taking up ICU beds for years.

Time to stigmatise  them. Show them the errors of their ways!

Some people have addictive personalities (I'm sure we all have addicts of some nature in our extended families). Some got hooked on their vice of choice at a young age.
Some people are genetically predisposed to be overweight or obese. Some can't afford to eat healthily. And yes, some are just lazy bastards. But they are all, to some extent, stigmatized and have been for years. No too many people are "proud" to be any of those.

But none of those issues can be basically fixed, at least in terms of impact on healthcare resources, with a couple of two-second injections.

You're having a laugh now!

Not really.

It's amazing how single focused we have all got with this Covid lark! Everything has become secondary. Everybody seems to be bought by the Narrative. Nobody challenges a word. There is no argument from the other side on MSM.

If you think this is about a Virus and a Vaccine. You are in for a big shock!

I think its absolutely about a virus and a vaccine.

What do you think its about?

Control? The Introduction of a digital health certification system and later a social credit system or version of?
       

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« Reply #17551 on: November 19, 2021, 10:07:25 PM »
1690 cases in the 6 counties!!!
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« Reply #17552 on: November 19, 2021, 10:14:20 PM »
Now that we have put categories on those in Hospital should we broaden our horizons.

Heavy Drinkers, smokers and even lazy fat f***s. All these have been taking up ICU beds for years.

Time to stigmatise  them. Show them the errors of their ways!

Some people have addictive personalities (I'm sure we all have addicts of some nature in our extended families). Some got hooked on their vice of choice at a young age.
Some people are genetically predisposed to be overweight or obese. Some can't afford to eat healthily. And yes, some are just lazy bastards. But they are all, to some extent, stigmatized and have been for years. No too many people are "proud" to be any of those.

But none of those issues can be basically fixed, at least in terms of impact on healthcare resources, with a couple of two-second injections.

You're having a laugh now!

Not really.

It's amazing how single focused we have all got with this Covid lark! Everything has become secondary. Everybody seems to be bought by the Narrative. Nobody challenges a word. There is no argument from the other side on MSM.

If you think this is about a Virus and a Vaccine. You are in for a big shock!

I think its absolutely about a virus and a vaccine.

What do you think its about?

Control? The Introduction of a digital health certification system and later a social credit system or version of?
     

That's the guts of it. There is a Roller-coaster of stuff planned for us.

The main thing is for to get the conformity sorted out. Anyone who strays from the Narrative will be belittled and treated as an outcast.

Most of this will be done (unwittingly) by peers!
« Last Edit: November 19, 2021, 10:19:00 PM by From the Bunker »

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« Reply #17553 on: November 19, 2021, 10:20:29 PM »
I thought the season for mushrooms was over, someone has a secret stash
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« Reply #17554 on: November 19, 2021, 10:29:47 PM »
Now that we have put categories on those in Hospital should we broaden our horizons.

Heavy Drinkers, smokers and even lazy fat f***s. All these have been taking up ICU beds for years.

Time to stigmatise  them. Show them the errors of their ways!

Some people have addictive personalities (I'm sure we all have addicts of some nature in our extended families). Some got hooked on their vice of choice at a young age.
Some people are genetically predisposed to be overweight or obese. Some can't afford to eat healthily. And yes, some are just lazy bastards. But they are all, to some extent, stigmatized and have been for years. No too many people are "proud" to be any of those.

But none of those issues can be basically fixed, at least in terms of impact on healthcare resources, with a couple of two-second injections.

You're having a laugh now!

Not really.

It's amazing how single focused we have all got with this Covid lark! Everything has become secondary. Everybody seems to be bought by the Narrative. Nobody challenges a word. There is no argument from the other side on MSM.

If you think this is about a Virus and a Vaccine. You are in for a big shock!

I think its absolutely about a virus and a vaccine.

What do you think its about?

Control? The Introduction of a digital health certification system and later a social credit system or version of?
     

That's the guts of it. There is a Roller-coaster of stuff planned for us.

The main thing is for to get the conformity sorted out. Anyone who strays from the Narrative will be belittled and treated as an outcast.

Most of this will be done (unwittingly) by peers!

LOL,  whoís got all this stuff planned? All the governments round the world have ganged up with big pharma and all the doctors round the world so that we can be controlled. Who else is in on it?

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« Reply #17555 on: November 19, 2021, 10:40:06 PM »
Now that we have put categories on those in Hospital should we broaden our horizons.

Heavy Drinkers, smokers and even lazy fat f***s. All these have been taking up ICU beds for years.

Time to stigmatise  them. Show them the errors of their ways!

Some people have addictive personalities (I'm sure we all have addicts of some nature in our extended families). Some got hooked on their vice of choice at a young age.
Some people are genetically predisposed to be overweight or obese. Some can't afford to eat healthily. And yes, some are just lazy bastards. But they are all, to some extent, stigmatized and have been for years. No too many people are "proud" to be any of those.

But none of those issues can be basically fixed, at least in terms of impact on healthcare resources, with a couple of two-second injections.

You're having a laugh now!

Not really.

It's amazing how single focused we have all got with this Covid lark! Everything has become secondary. Everybody seems to be bought by the Narrative. Nobody challenges a word. There is no argument from the other side on MSM.

If you think this is about a Virus and a Vaccine. You are in for a big shock!

I think its absolutely about a virus and a vaccine.

What do you think its about?

Control? The Introduction of a digital health certification system and later a social credit system or version of?
     

That's the guts of it. There is a Roller-coaster of stuff planned for us.

The main thing is for to get the conformity sorted out. Anyone who strays from the Narrative will be belittled and treated as an outcast.

Most of this will be done (unwittingly) by peers!

LOL,  whoís got all this stuff planned? All the governments round the world have ganged up with big pharma and all the doctors round the world so that we can be controlled. Who else is in on it?
Some anti vax chaps tells me It's a serious operation led by a class of global elites such as Bill Gates.

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« Reply #17556 on: November 19, 2021, 10:43:25 PM »
I thought the season for mushrooms was over, someone has a secret stash

I suppose its almost as unbelievable as a western democratic country intoducing mandatory vaccination for their entire population. Roll on the mushrooms

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« Reply #17557 on: November 19, 2021, 11:00:27 PM »
I thought the season for mushrooms was over, someone has a secret stash

I suppose its almost as unbelievable as a western democratic country intoducing mandatory vaccination for their entire population. Roll on the mushrooms

Weíve been introducing mandatory measures for years, but you donít have to get the vaccine, itís not AustriaÖ. Yet  ;)
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« Reply #17558 on: November 19, 2021, 11:07:57 PM »
I thought the season for mushrooms was over, someone has a secret stash

I suppose its almost as unbelievable as a western democratic country intoducing mandatory vaccination for their entire population. Roll on the mushrooms

Weíve been introducing mandatory measures for years, but you donít have to get the vaccine, itís not AustriaÖ. Yet  ;)

So out of interest are you in favour of mandatory covid 19 vaccination for the population here?
     What measures would you support in order to encourage people that have so far not participated in the vaccination programme?
     Sorry for the questions but genuinely interested? (Btw i have had my 2 doses not due the booster until january).
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« Reply #17559 on: November 19, 2021, 11:36:15 PM »
Very simple for me, my job is in contact with vulnerable people, if I caught Covid and passed it on and someone ended up infected by me not getting vaccinated then Iíd be in the wrong and feel pretty shut about it to, my sister is just out of cancer treatment another good reason for me.

The facts have been shown that being vaccinated, regardless of the amount it was promised to protect us, will reduced the viral load.

People do what they want, you can wear ear plugs if you work in a noisy environment or not, rest assured youíll regret it later.

Iíve followed the guidelines as has my immediate family, to date we havenít got it, weíve been working and socialising without annoyance either.

As for measures to encourage people, do what you feel is right for you. Iíll follow my path, I havenít got a degree in virology or biochemistry, so on that front Iíll listen to the experts.
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« Reply #17560 on: November 19, 2021, 11:38:00 PM »
"Sweden now has the lowest Covid infection rate in western Europe ó after double-vaccinated nationals were told they don't have to test for the virus even if they get symptoms.

The Scandinavian nation ó which was subject to international scrutiny last year when it refused to lockdown ó is currently recording 85.4 cases per million people, according to Oxford University research site Our World in Data.

By comparison, the rate is nearly 1,400 per million in Europe's current Covid capital Austria, which today announced it is going back into a full lockdown from Monday.

Sweden's infection rate is far lower than other Western European countries like the Netherlands (1,048.7), Britain (581), Germany (536), and France (201)." https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/sweden-now-has-western-europe-s-lowest-covid-infection-rate/ar-AAQU25q

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« Reply #17561 on: November 19, 2021, 11:43:24 PM »
Would Swedenís rate be lower due to the high rate they had at the start when going for herd immunity?
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« Reply #17562 on: November 20, 2021, 12:02:38 AM »
"Sweden now has the lowest Covid infection rate in western Europe ó after double-vaccinated nationals were told they don't have to test for the virus even if they get symptoms.

The Scandinavian nation ó which was subject to international scrutiny last year when it refused to lockdown ó is currently recording 85.4 cases per million people, according to Oxford University research site Our World in Data.

By comparison, the rate is nearly 1,400 per million in Europe's current Covid capital Austria, which today announced it is going back into a full lockdown from Monday.

Sweden's infection rate is far lower than other Western European countries like the Netherlands (1,048.7), Britain (581), Germany (536), and France (201)." https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/sweden-now-has-western-europe-s-lowest-covid-infection-rate/ar-AAQU25q

Theyíve now reversed the decision not to test double vaccinated people. Theyíre also bringing in a covid pass (Itís already been in use for travel ).
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« Reply #17563 on: November 20, 2021, 12:24:18 AM »
Very simple for me, my job is in contact with vulnerable people, if I caught Covid and passed it on and someone ended up infected by me not getting vaccinated then Iíd be in the wrong and feel pretty shut about it to, my sister is just out of cancer treatment another good reason for me.

The facts have been shown that being vaccinated, regardless of the amount it was promised to protect us, will reduced the viral load.

People do what they want, you can wear ear plugs if you work in a noisy environment or not, rest assured youíll regret it later.

Iíve followed the guidelines as has my immediate family, to date we havenít got it, weíve been working and socialising without annoyance either.

As for measures to encourage people, do what you feel is right for you. Iíll follow my path, I havenít got a degree in virology or biochemistry, so on that front Iíll listen to the experts.

All very reasonable and i hope all your folks and particularly your sister keep well. Actually in many ways your circumstances  are very similar to my own and the reasons i opted for the vaccine.
    Unfortunately this topic has become very polarising and poisonous (you just have to read through this thread!)
    It seems to me, anybody that questions vaccine effectivemess, lockdown restrictions or other government policies are labelled loons and subject to ridicule(some definitely deserve it btw).
      The lancet published an article on the use of first generation covid 19 vaccines (this was pre-release of these vaccines) and indicated their potential limitations. I think this is a more realistic marker or level than that given by the Pharma manufacturers pre their release.
        They are definitley a useful tool in the fight against this virus but given the nature of Coronaviruses they are not the panacea promised (at least not this generation).
        I don't agree with the current witch hunt of the non-vaccinated through government policies or the media. Its counterproductive. Like you said give the people the information and let them decide. Stop trying to coerce people or heaven forbid bring in mandatory vaccinations.
     Anyway, once again i hope you and your family keep well and best wishes to your sister on her recovery.

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« Reply #17564 on: November 20, 2021, 12:48:56 AM »
Very simple for me, my job is in contact with vulnerable people, if I caught Covid and passed it on and someone ended up infected by me not getting vaccinated then Iíd be in the wrong and feel pretty shut about it to, my sister is just out of cancer treatment another good reason for me.

The facts have been shown that being vaccinated, regardless of the amount it was promised to protect us, will reduced the viral load.

People do what they want, you can wear ear plugs if you work in a noisy environment or not, rest assured youíll regret it later.

Iíve followed the guidelines as has my immediate family, to date we havenít got it, weíve been working and socialising without annoyance either.

As for measures to encourage people, do what you feel is right for you. Iíll follow my path, I havenít got a degree in virology or biochemistry, so on that front Iíll listen to the experts.

I thought you said your youngster was never at home from all that partying ?  :o