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Title: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 14, 2017, 11:40:53 PM
Laois will be operating out of Division 4 in 2018 and here are all the fixtures.

http://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/10/13/laois-face-face-trip-london-2018-national-football-league/
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on October 14, 2017, 11:56:07 PM
Best of luck to john and his backroom staff ( heard today one more was added lad from somewhere in munster ). The rebuilding begins in Ernest ill be positive and back these lads lots of work to do but i think they are all up for it.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: town1980 on October 15, 2017, 12:53:10 AM
Well I'll be hopeing for promotion we are def good enough and I'm sure john will prevail
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Butch Cassidy on October 15, 2017, 09:58:56 AM
Any new players stand out from the club championship?
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on October 15, 2017, 11:15:48 AM
I could see the two murphys from portarlington getting a call up tommy kehoe from o dempseys. Get a bit of fresh blood in shake the "established" lads up. Bit of in house competition is always healthy
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Tony on October 15, 2017, 02:28:18 PM
It'd be great to see us back in Croke Park with a League Final at least. In a way it's a great opportunity for John as the only way is up, really. It'd be very great news to welcome Cahir back and maybe a couple other Ploaise lads. Other than that, a few pacey new faces. We won't have a golden generation of squad for 2018 but I can easily see us do well in Div 4 and maybe blood some new players. That's all we can really hope for in 2018 but let's hope it's a far better setup compared with our last few  ::)
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 01, 2017, 12:30:56 AM
League begins in January as GAA unveil 2018 fixture list

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/1031/916492-league-opens-in-january-as-gaa-unveil-2018-fixture-lis/
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Butch Cassidy on November 01, 2017, 10:12:27 AM
Club Laois still going? Even though its division 4 games they should try Mark at home games to get a crowd. Some attractive away fixtures for fans with London and Carrick being the stand outs.

Any word on who was called in for trial games? 
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Laoisguy on November 01, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
is there a trial game tonight?
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: From the Terrace on November 01, 2017, 10:59:16 PM
Yeah, they had trials last Wednesday + Saturday too. Not sure who's in there.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Laoisguy on November 02, 2017, 12:11:25 PM
I travelled in to take a quick look but had to go as the ball was being thrown in to be honest

Seemed good numbers 27-28guys,very active warm up Stack doing the shouting mostly and trialists looking fairly fit
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: South Laois man on November 09, 2017, 12:25:41 PM
Any news on any players dropping off the panel or new players been looked at?
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: clonadmad on November 10, 2017, 08:05:15 AM
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/11/10/massive-blow-laois-footballers-kingston-opts/
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 10, 2017, 08:09:35 AM
Bit of an unfair blow to sugrue and his backroom team with so many of the top player's opting out so far donie conor Meredith and robbie keogh i expect as with most years there will be little involvement from the town.
Just cause there has been a bad few years with bad manager's that should not to taken out on sugrue.
Hopefully the lads that go in will be given a chance by the supporters as the uphill battle has just got harder.
Crazy county we live in when you cant pick your top players
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 10, 2017, 09:13:30 AM
Division 4 will test players attitude and really separate the guys who really have the county's interests at heart and those who are there just for the crack. It takes real commitment from lads to play division football as the only thing to be gained is the counties pride.

Well done to the lads who do commit, they are real Laoismen and we won't forget that. Very disappointed with Donie...
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 10, 2017, 09:36:16 AM
First sign of a proper trainer with a decent bit of commitment required, and the liferafts are pushed out. Sad to see.

Best of luck to those who commit.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Laoisguy on November 10, 2017, 09:59:01 AM
Can't believe that Donie would go down this route when whats required is our top players standing up ,shoulder to the wheel ,showing the potential new kids top commitment

Bad start and bit of a let down
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 10, 2017, 11:12:51 AM
These same players that people are criticising have been messed about for 5 years, every manager that has come has been a false dawn.  Sugrue is probably moving a bit quick, at the moment playing for Laois is not what everyone dreams of doing.  I am sure a few good results and maybe a little less tough talk and fellas will come back on board.  I was very much in favour of going with a younger team because a lot of the older boys are carrying scars of previous regimes ineptitude.  If I was the current management I would not issue any ultimatums and see if we can get them back on board at a later date.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 10, 2017, 11:19:56 AM
These same players that people are criticising have been messed about for 5 years, every manager that has come has been a false dawn.  Sugrue is probably moving a bit quick, at the moment playing for Laois is not what everyone dreams of doing.  I am sure a few good results and maybe a little less tough talk and fellas will come back on board.  I was very much in favour of going with a younger team because a lot of the older boys are carrying scars of previous regimes ineptitude.  If I was the current management I would not issue any ultimatums and see if we can get them back on board at a later date.
Less tough talk? What tough talk has he made?
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: clonadmad on November 10, 2017, 11:30:47 AM
New Season
New Management
New Start


Not yet December and our talisman forward wont commit,so much for all the talk of walking out of Division 4 and giving Kildare a game in Leinster in 2018.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 10, 2017, 11:32:13 AM
New Season
New Management
New Start


Not yet December and our talisman forward wont commit,so much for all the talk of walking out of Division 4 and giving Kildare a game in Leinster in 2018.
I think we'll beat Kildare by a point a man come the Leinster semi final.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 10, 2017, 12:09:35 PM
Not just in Laois, but in every county like us, this has to be expected. It's gone beyond the point of being an amateur sport that lads play in their spare time. Even at club level. The demands are too great and this is the price that counties like us can expect to pay. It's not worth it. It's not enjoyable any more and I can't expect lads to slavishly commit to a cause like ours year after year. Donie owes us nothing. Maybe he will enjoy the basketball a little bit more and good luck to him
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 10, 2017, 12:13:26 PM
Not just in Laois, but in every county like us, this has to be expected. It's gone beyond the point of being an amateur sport that lads play in their spare time. Even at club level. The demands are too great and this is the price that counties like us can expect to pay. It's not worth it. It's not enjoyable any more and I can't expect lads to slavishly commit to a cause like ours year after year. Donie owes us nothing. Maybe he will enjoy the basketball a little bit more and good luck to him
Sorry, but no. Not on this occasion. After 5 years of incredible shite, a proper coach and manager are in place. His career has been a story of gigantic unfulfilled talent. Donie owes us nothing. He owes his talent quite a lot.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: seafoid on November 10, 2017, 12:13:37 PM
These same players that people are criticising have been messed about for 5 years, every manager that has come has been a false dawn.  Sugrue is probably moving a bit quick, at the moment playing for Laois is not what everyone dreams of doing.  I am sure a few good results and maybe a little less tough talk and fellas will come back on board.  I was very much in favour of going with a younger team because a lot of the older boys are carrying scars of previous regimes ineptitude.  If I was the current management I would not issue any ultimatums and see if we can get them back on board at a later date.
It might be too late for some of them. Galway hurlers had a long period of mediocrity and managers who promised much without delivering. In 2011 a new management team was appointed. They took a hatchet to the stars and picked 22 under 21s out of a panel of 37. 6 years later Galway  won the all Ireland.  The psychological damage done by years of mediocrity shouldn't be underestimated.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 10, 2017, 12:21:38 PM
Not just in Laois, but in every county like us, this has to be expected. It's gone beyond the point of being an amateur sport that lads play in their spare time. Even at club level. The demands are too great and this is the price that counties like us can expect to pay. It's not worth it. It's not enjoyable any more and I can't expect lads to slavishly commit to a cause like ours year after year. Donie owes us nothing. Maybe he will enjoy the basketball a little bit more and good luck to him
Sorry, but no. Not on this occasion. After 5 years of incredible shite, a proper coach and manager are in place. His career has been a story of gigantic unfulfilled talent. Donie owes us nothing. He owes his talent quite a lot.

And that's the point. He'll never realise his potential in Laois. There's nothing (relatively speaking) to play for. I think he'll be back but I don't blame him for taking a break from it. It's an opportunity for others to step up too. Some of them, maybe all of them, have been in his shadow for a long time
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 10, 2017, 01:12:54 PM
Personally I am not sure we need to crack any eggs sometimes an Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove works better than taking a sledge hammer to things.  I would rather be talking to Donie and hopefully convincing him of a return.  I really don't get why Laois footballs internal problems need to be in both National & Local Media for every single issue. 
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 10, 2017, 01:14:50 PM
These same players that people are criticising have been messed about for 5 years, every manager that has come has been a false dawn.  Sugrue is probably moving a bit quick, at the moment playing for Laois is not what everyone dreams of doing.  I am sure a few good results and maybe a little less tough talk and fellas will come back on board.  I was very much in favour of going with a younger team because a lot of the older boys are carrying scars of previous regimes ineptitude.  If I was the current management I would not issue any ultimatums and see if we can get them back on board at a later date.
It might be too late for some of them. Galway hurlers had a long period of mediocrity and managers who promised much without delivering. In 2011 a new management team was appointed. They took a hatchet to the stars and picked 22 under 21s out of a panel of 37. 6 years later Galway  won the all Ireland.  The psychological damage done by years of mediocrity shouldn't be underestimated.

Agree unfortunately we do not have Galways U21's
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Tony on November 10, 2017, 01:32:19 PM
While I'm disappointed with the decision, I'm not disappointed with Donie himself as he's given a lot to Laois and has put up with a lot, too, with poor setups etc. It's just a pity that this year it looks like we will have our best setup since McNulty, but our best player wont be playing. We can perhaps handle not having Donie for the League campaign as we might still have enough for promotion. But we'll badly need him for championship if we've any hopes of a leinster semi final, so I hope he does come back in the new year at some point. Having Paul Kingston there is a bonus. Let's just hope the setup is as good as we're hoping it will be, and that somehow our top performers will opt in. Having said all that, you can't be disappointed with the players themselves if they decide not to commit. It really is like a full-time job to be an inter county player these days and players have lives, families and jobs too. In my opinion, the commitment the inter county players give across the country without any payment is unsustainable, especially for counties like us that don't see much success. That's a matter for another day though.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 10, 2017, 01:47:20 PM
Personally I am not sure we need to crack any eggs sometimes an Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove works better than taking a sledge hammer to things.  I would rather be talking to Donie and hopefully convincing him of a return.  I really don't get why Laois footballs internal problems need to be in both National & Local Media for every single issue.

Reading the independent article john surgrue said the door was open. Lets fact check as this is how mob mentality grabs at false or badly constructed comments
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 10, 2017, 01:56:05 PM
I have no doubt he'll be back. My concern will be, in what condition.

Anyway, we move on.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 10, 2017, 02:04:42 PM
While I'm disappointed with the decision, I'm not disappointed with Donie himself as he's given a lot to Laois and has put up with a lot, too, with poor setups etc. It's just a pity that this year it looks like we will have our best setup since McNulty, but our best player wont be playing. We can perhaps handle not having Donie for the League campaign as we might still have enough for promotion. But we'll badly need him for championship if we've any hopes of a leinster semi final, so I hope he does come back in the new year at some point. Having Paul Kingston there is a bonus. Let's just hope the setup is as good as we're hoping it will be, and that somehow our top performers will opt in. Having said all that, you can't be disappointed with the players themselves if they decide not to commit. It really is like a full-time job to be an inter county player these days and players have lives, families and jobs too. In my opinion, the commitment the inter county players give across the country without any payment is unsustainable, especially for counties like us that don't see much success. That's a matter for another day though.

Spot on. Great post. This goes a lot deeper than Donie Kingston. Offaly are without Graham Guilfoyle for the year because of a new job. A big loss for them. Choices have to be made in counties like Laois and Offaly. Job/Family/Commuting/personal financial situation etc v representing your county. I'm  surprised at times at the number who actually bother. The GAA are in cuckoo land if they think this will be a good model for future wellbeing.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: clonadmad on November 10, 2017, 03:32:25 PM
New Season
New Management
New Start


Not yet December and our talisman forward wont commit,so much for all the talk of walking out of Division 4 and giving Kildare a game in Leinster in 2018.
I think we'll beat Kildare by a point a man come the Leinster semi final.

I'll have some of what that man is having,Nurse
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Nameless on November 10, 2017, 03:53:47 PM
Massive loss but if he's not in now he shouldn't be allowed in later. We all know it takes a massive effort and huge commitment at this level so you can't just come in after the league and hope to be in the right condition. It's just not possible anymore. We can't complain if lads want to do other things or take a break, it's worse if they join up and are not 100% committed.
I'm hoping Sugrue will actually be strict on this. We've had lads dropping in and out for the past few years and they're just not prepared. Also if lads join up and they're caught drinking every weekend or not putting it in then they should be kicked off the panel. It doesn't matter what their names are.
We've let an awful attitude develop within the squad and it's why we are where we are. As I said, we can't complain about lads deciding it's not for them this year but we can complain if we're spending a lot of money following them and they're unfit and way off the pace because of personal choices.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: The Monument Road on November 10, 2017, 04:53:48 PM
Its a pity he cannot/wont commit. I have my suspicions on whats really going on but thats his own business and his own decision. Ill still be heading up to Carrick, Ruislip Netwatch Cullen park and where ever else we have to go to watch players who really want to play for laois and who dont whinge or throw dodies from their prams.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 10, 2017, 05:13:40 PM
Well said Monument Road, totally agree with that. At least we'll have Zack back at some stage...

http://www.hoganstand.com/Laois/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=277926&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: ILikeStrawberryJam on November 12, 2017, 07:32:50 PM
I dont think its such a bad thing donie leaving .. hes carried the team for years .. he prob just not enjoying it anymore
He needs a break .. let sugrue develop a young team without the temptation of having to get it to donie every single time. I dont care if ythe older crew dont commit .. time for a new start .. were rock bottom now so weve nothing to lose .. donie will hopefully come back next year .. refreshed into an improving setup .. its gonna be a long journey back

The future of small counties being competitive anymore .. hard to know where to even start .. id lkke to bite the bullet and see a two tier competition come in asap ..
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 12, 2017, 08:24:15 PM
I dont think its such a bad thing donie leaving .. ............................... let sugrue develop a young team without the temptation of having to get it to donie every single time.

I think there is something in this. I would be thinking along the same lines. Our better performances and results over the last 4 or 5 years have generally come against middle of the road teams when Donie has been on fire. In Division 4 simply "Kicking it in to Donie" will work 80% of the time. It won't work against Kildare (if we get there).

In a perverse way, this might force our hand into STICKING with a more rounded game plan if things are not going perfectly from game to game in the league. And this is the way to go in the long term.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 12, 2017, 08:37:38 PM
Its a pity he cannot/wont commit. I have my suspicions on whats really going on but thats his own business and his own decision.
It’s almost like you’re transfer ing your emotions onto this forum.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: SCFC on November 12, 2017, 09:04:13 PM
Its a pity he cannot/wont commit. I have my suspicions on whats really going on but thats his own business and his own decision.
It’s almost like you’re transfer ing your emotions onto this forum.
Old Laughlin "basketball"....
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 12, 2017, 10:31:20 PM
While it is hearalded that we have the return of the old guard  (all great players for Laois in their prime).  This is a waste of time,  I know I will be hammered but unfortunately if Laois are to go forward these players will have to be dispensed with.  I will add they will never retire themselves and it will be ugly and that will never take from their legacy or commitment.  But for Laois it is time to move on

Would not think Donie is Old Guard Yet
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: SCFC on November 12, 2017, 10:54:30 PM
While it is hearalded that we have the return of the old guard  (all great players for Laois in their prime).  This is a waste of time,  I know I will be hammered but unfortunately if Laois are to go forward these players will have to be dispensed with.  I will add they will never retire themselves and it will be ugly and that will never take from their legacy or commitment.  But for Laois it is time to move on

Would not think Donie is Old Guard Yet
You can't throw a bunch of new chaps out there without a few experience heads to help them.
I'd be loath to get rid of the 30 to 32 age group like Quigley, Begley, Strong, Donoher, Meaney, Conway, Timmons.
It would leave too many gaps in an already thin squad.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on November 14, 2017, 04:28:57 PM
Great to see the proud Laois players who have committed again this year, especially Ross. He is a credit to himself, his family and his club as are all the others who have given so much to the county.

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2017/11/14/munnelly-commits-16th-season-laois-footballers/
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 14, 2017, 06:46:38 PM
Hopefully I will be proved wrong but going with older players is not serving us well.  This same argument was thrashed out last year.  I am not questioning their commitment or legacy.  Just going forward what is there to gain from it a couple of wins early in the league before finding out that the legs are not what they were once the ground Firms up.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 14, 2017, 07:13:13 PM
Hopefully I will be proved wrong but going with older players is not serving us well.  This same argument was thrashed out last year.  I am not questioning their commitment or IM.  Just going forward what is there to gain from it a couple of wins early in the league before finding out that the legs are not what they were once the ground Firms up.
These lads are stepping up and given another year of serious commitment they are needed to bring on the younger player's. Name the lads to replace them there isn't exactly an abundance of talent out there but whatever there is im sure sugrue and his team have seen them with the 70 or so player's looked at over the trials the past month.
Lets actually get behind the team and management and not try racking up passive i told you so points
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 14, 2017, 10:31:40 PM
Look I hope I am wrong,  I like Sugrue as I feel it's a step in the right direction,  I just fail to see how we can improve in any major way, wIth pretty much the same personnel.  What ever the ability,  I think physiologically we are scarred beyond repair.   Maybe I want too much too fast.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 14, 2017, 11:05:59 PM
Look I hope I am wrong,  I like Sugrue as I feel it's a step in the right direction,  I just fail to see how we can improve in any major way, wIth pretty much the same personnel.  What ever the ability,  I think physiologically we are scarred beyond repair.   Maybe I want too much too fast.
Scarred beyond repair christ on a bike.
Every county go through a dark patch we are in  ours lets be positive and get through it. You must be great craic to have a  cup of tea with. Cheer up eoin Kearns a club man of yours is in there very positive fella.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 15, 2017, 10:58:05 AM
Only my point of view,  there will be a million others who differ.   If we were all right all of the time the world would be a very boring place.  You seem very bullish on the set up, you either have a good line inside or are involved.  I wish you all in there the very best of luck.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 15, 2017, 11:38:02 AM
Only my point of view,  there will be a million others who differ.   If we were all right all of the time the world would be a very boring place.  You seem very bullish on the set up, you either have a good line inside or are involved.  I wish you all in there the very best of luck.
Im bullish as its a constant wave of negativity from the same old few on this forum and its tedious at this stage.
Im far from involved in the set up any info i have is common knowledge. The set up looks good no one is suffering from PTSD as your dramatic portrayal tries to paint.
Smile it doesn't hurt
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 15, 2017, 11:39:02 AM
Both viewpoints make sense but just let it pan out lads. I'm grateful to those who want to go in and give it a go. It's not an attractive proposition by any means, but an opportunity exists at such a low level to win something. f**k it I'd take anything at this stage.....
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Tony on November 15, 2017, 12:46:29 PM
I respect your opinion Ballyroan but to leave the likes of Timmons, Quigley, Conway, O Loughlin and all out would be ridiculous. We're not Kerry with an amazing underage coming up. That's not to say that we should only have the older players. Of course we should blood more younger talent if we can. That's just the common sense of it. It would be the worst decision to just leave those experienced players out when they're ready to commit and give their all hopefully. Not sure why it's up for debate really.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 15, 2017, 04:27:23 PM
Our target this year is to get promotion out of Div 4, and have a promising run in the Leinster/Qualifiers.  Kerrys is to win an All Ireland,  I see where a lot of you are coming from and logically you make sense in the short term.  However I think we are in Sunderland mode that if we continue with the same personnel we will get the same results.  I just think Div 4 is a great place to be brave.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Give and Go on November 15, 2017, 06:06:03 PM
The internet is the curse of the modern age!
And I'm as guilty as anyone before I start!
Everyone has an opinion these days and it must be heard regardless of how offensive it is.

Martin O Neill and the the Irish Team are getting it in the neck now after losing heavily last night. Laois footballers have been subject to it constantly on social media since 2003.....that was the sixth title since the start of the GAA!!

We need to stop this constant barrage of criticism of players, coaches, officials and either support them or stay away and keep mouths shut and keyboards quiet!

It ain't right the way society has gone - all this 'opinion' is very hurtful and damaging to those involved. Paying an admission fee into a game doesn't bestow this entitlement to abuse and insult the voluntary efforts of Gaels in all our clubs and counties.

Best wishes to the team and management in 2018.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Tony on November 15, 2017, 06:08:57 PM
There's brave and there's stupid.

Brave would be to debutise plenty of new blood mixed in with more experienced crew over the coming few years and gredually phase out the old guard.

Stupid would be to omit your top performers and most experienced who are willing to give it their all for the year.

Sorry but i still don't get your idea at all. If we let go of the likes of Timmons, Quigley, Donagher, Healy, John O' Loughlin, etc just because they're slightly over their top peak, we'll be planted in division 4 for years to come. I don't get this all or nothing idea. Clearly the smart thing to do is to blood new talent and retain the experienced players until they A: they retire or B: are not offering as much as the younger players. Unfortunately for us, nearly all of the younger players have a lot more developing to do.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Tony on November 15, 2017, 06:26:34 PM
Imagine John O' Loughlin, one of Laois' best servants over the last 10+ years sent a text to John Sugrue "Looking forward to having a good go in 2018, glad you're the manager."

John Sugrue : "Sorry John, we're actually just playing with younger players this year."

I'd get your point Ballyroan if people were saying bring back Padraig Clancy at age 38 or whatever he is. But these lads around 29 to 31 have plenty of good years left in them. If we're looking at a 3 to 5 year plan, the likes of JOL, Healy etc have a a large part to play in that. Ideally the younger lads will make an impression in that time too. one does not exclude the other.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Butch Cassidy on November 15, 2017, 07:12:11 PM
Regardless of age it's up to John Sugrue and his management team to try get the best players in Laois to play and come up with a system to get the best out of them.

Using Ross as an example I saw a good lot of the club championship and he was one of the best forwards in the county. It's up to the younger lads in the county to step up, put pressure on the 'older lads' and give Surgue a welcome headache.

Has an u20 manager been sorted?
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 15, 2017, 07:19:06 PM
Tony your naming the players I was specifically general in this statement and every theory is open to examination you could be right on some players and wrong on others. 

Give & Go i don't think anyone was insulted
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Tony on November 15, 2017, 08:03:01 PM
Fair enough Ballyroan.

Give and Go, not sure what you're posing about there. 99% of posts here are in good spirits and we're just talking about the sport we love. A couple of lads overstep the mark very occasionally. otherwise, the forum is very well meaning.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Give and Go on November 15, 2017, 09:01:17 PM
I suppose I am also referring to our habit of second guessing managers and players; engaging in constant speculation about decisions and motivations - more often than not done without factual basis. Here we are on about players he will or will not be including when in fact we have no idea what the management are thinking because they haven't made a public statement! Sometimes we are better to say nowt and stop adding to the swirl of rumour and innuendo that wafts around every county set up in the country!
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 15, 2017, 09:48:58 PM
Thats fair enough Give & Go, but I don't think we would have a forum if we did not have opinions. 
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Giovanni on November 15, 2017, 10:15:28 PM
I would agree that no player should be discriminated against on the basis of his birth cert and I would be amazed if that turned out to be the case.

On the other hand, I really hope that the new management starts from the position that reputations are entirely irrelevant and if a young lad looks like he's doing better than the lad with the reputation, he's given his chance. Our best players last year included Alan Farrell and Eoin Buggie, neither of whom would have been given much credit when they came into the setup. Young lads like Evan O Carroll and Tom Shiel came into the squad under McNulty and did very well. Stephen Attride, who has become a very nice footballer, wasn't one of the big names when he came into the setup. I really hope that the best players are chosen regardless of their profile or reputation.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 15, 2017, 10:31:40 PM
I would agree that no player should be discriminated against on the basis of his birth cert and I would be amazed if that turned out to be the case.

On the other hand, I really hope that the new management starts from the position that reputations are entirely irrelevant and if a young lad looks like he's doing better than the lad with the reputation, he's given his chance. Our best players last year included Alan Farrell and Eoin Buggie, neither of whom would have been given much credit when they came into the setup. Young lads like Evan O Carroll and Tom Shiel came into the squad under McNulty and did very well. Stephen Attride, who has become a very nice footballer, wasn't one of the big names when he came into the setup. I really hope that the best players are chosen regardless of their profile or reputation.


Well said Giovanni, a more balanced post than mine.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on November 15, 2017, 11:51:25 PM
losing the coin toss for the home venue for the first round of the leinster championship adds to the difficult year ahead....wexford park now becomes a very serious test.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: justinn on November 16, 2017, 12:09:52 AM
Venues confirmed for 2018 Leinster SFC ties
15 November 2017

O'Moore Park, Portlaoise.
O'Moore Park will play host to a Leinster SFC first round double-bill next year after the venues for a number of games were confirmed this evening.

After enjoying their best championship run in 73 years last summer, Carlow face Louth at the Laois county grounds which will also see the meeting of Offaly versus Wicklow on the same day.

In the other first round tie, Wexford have been awarded home advantage against Laois after winning a coin toss and so this clash will take place at Wexford Park.

Meanwhile, Longford will be at home in Pearse Park for their quarter-final encounter with Meath. It's a rare home draw for the midlanders in the provincial series but one that is 'subject to redevelopment work being satisfactorily completed'. If the redevelopment work at Pearse Park is not ready in time, then the game will be moved to Navan.

Dates and times for the games will be decided in due course.


Leinster SFC first round
Carlow v Louth, O'Moore Park
Offaly v Wicklow, O'Moore Park
Wexford v Laois, Innovate Wexford Park

Leinter SFC quarter-final
Longford v Meath, Pearse Par
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: justinn on November 16, 2017, 12:11:55 AM
The 2018 O'Byrne Cup draw has been made with holders Dublin being grouped alongside Offaly and Wexford.

Under the stewardship of Paul Clarke, the All-Ireland champions called on their reserves for this year's competition and ran out convincing winners when beating Louth in the final - 2-16 to 1-10.

They will have a bye in the opening round of the upcoming pre-season competition which will take on Saturday, 30 December.


2018 O'Byrne Cup draw:

Group 1
Dublin
Offaly
Wexford

Group 2
Kildare
Louth
Longford

Group 3
Meath
Carlow
Wicklow

Group 4
Westmeath
Laois

Dates: Dec 30, Jan 3, Jan 7. Semi-finals Jan 13/14. Final Jan 20/21.

Opening Fixtures: Offaly v Wexford, Louth v Longford, Wicklow v Carlow, Westmeath v Laois.

Format: Round robin with first placed team advancing to semi-finals. Westmeath and Laois play each other home and away with aggregate score deciding who tops Group 4.

Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Unlaoised on November 16, 2017, 10:18:11 AM
I heard after Donie got sent off v Port he made his mind up he was not playing for Laois in 2018

How true that is I don't know.

He is a massive loss but I think the door should be left open.

Hopefully him and John can come to some agreement .

Wexford away is now a tougher task .Even in the good times we have only won there by the skin of our teeth.

The O'Byrne cup playing Westmeath twice is a joke.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Unlaoised on November 16, 2017, 10:22:51 AM
A bit better news is i'm hearing Portlaoise might be commiting a few more players this year!
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 16, 2017, 11:21:09 AM
It dosent make a difference if they commit their full population of 25,000 if Donie isn't playing 😂
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 16, 2017, 05:29:52 PM
Paying an admission fee into a game doesn't bestow this entitlement to abuse and insult the voluntary efforts of Gaels in all our clubs and counties.

Such an important point.
Certain people threatening for years (on here and on Laois Talk before that) to stop going to games if such and such didn't improve.
One lad said here last year that he wouldn't buy a county board ticket unless Laois County Board stepped in and banned somebody (Can't remember for the life of me what it was- but it was nonsensical).
Laughable stuff.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: brandyandPORT on November 16, 2017, 07:13:40 PM
Kingston is a massive loss  :'(

Looking at where a primary scoring forward will emerge from will be intriguing.
 
 I think Sugrue made some good choices in picking his back room team.

Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 16, 2017, 07:30:21 PM
Keyser you are one of the more balanced posters on this forum, however I would very much hold middle ground on this point.  The payment of an admission fee , the purchase of county board ticket or membership of a club very much grants you the right to an opinion.  Whether that opinion is the general consensus is another thing but the rule of democracy is something a lot of clubs and counties ignore and the decisions of an inner cabal (of those who supposedly know best) trumps all.   We may not always agree with what every member says but they have the right to express it regardless.  There are of course lines in the sand with regards to slander or defamation of character but if someone has an opinion I would hope they could express it.

Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 16, 2017, 07:41:57 PM
Paying an admission fee into a game doesn't bestow this entitlement to abuse and insult the voluntary efforts of Gaels in all our clubs and counties.

Such an important point.
Certain people threatening for years (on here and on Laois Talk before that) to stop going to games if such and such didn't improve.
One lad said here last year that he wouldn't buy a county board ticket unless Laois County Board stepped in and banned somebody (Can't remember for the life of me what it was- but it was nonsensical).
Laughable stuff.

That was me and I didn't buy the ticket. It was over the drinking thing. Thankfully the episode taught me a valuable lesson, and that is there is no point in me spending my hard earned money on lads who are not as committed as their counterparts. Consequently, my expectations for Laois are now as low as it gets, so I won't be disappointed if I hear stories like that again. Personal choice and I don't see what there is to laugh at. I've invested plenty in Laois with little expectation and I continue to do as much as I can for my club. I will probably watch more of Laois footballers than most on here next year, but I am expecting very little. Hopefully I can be pleasantly surprised
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 16, 2017, 11:34:25 PM
Kingston is a massive loss  :'(

Looking at where a primary scoring forward will emerge from will be intriguing.
 
 I think Sugrue made some good choices in picking his back room team.
I think paul Kingston Gary walsh and Alan farrell will step up
Besiides eoin Kearns and stack who else is in there???
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 16, 2017, 11:36:41 PM
Keyser you are one of the more balanced posters on this forum, however I would very much hold middle ground on this point.  The payment of an admission fee , the purchase of county board ticket or membership of a club very much grants you the right to an opinion

Of course it grants you the right to an opinion.
It doesn't grant you ownership of the players or their perceived efforts.

I've seen posts on here basically saying "I wasted my hard earned cash going to watch them useless shower, I bought a ticket to support that useless shower etc, never will I again."
This, in my opinion(!!!), is a step too far. It's not the theatre, these are not actors.
Your financial support is both crucial and appreciated.
BUT
It does not grant you the right to berate and threaten to withdraw support for amateur players who (whether it comes to fruition or not) have put months of their own free time, without financial reward, into putting on a show that you have chosen to attend for your own entertainment.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 16, 2017, 11:39:49 PM
That was me and I didn't buy the ticket. It was over the drinking thing. Thankfully the episode taught me a valuable lesson, and that is there is no point in me spending my hard earned money on lads who are not as committed as their counterparts. Consequently, my expectations for Laois are now as low as it gets, so I won't be disappointed if I hear stories like that again. Personal choice and I don't see what there is to laugh at. I've invested plenty in Laois with little expectation and I continue to do as much as I can for my club. I will probably watch more of Laois footballers than most on here next year, but I am expecting very little. Hopefully I can be pleasantly surprised

1) I'm pretty sure it was a €130 County board Ticket? They are not on sale till January AFAIK, so I'm not sure how you managed to "not buy it".

2) You are deciding that Laois players (en masse?) are not as committed as who? How are you measuring this?

3) This is exactly the type of post that I cannot fathom. Lads supporting an amateur organisation/group of players with the expectations of a premier league fan base. All my opinion of course.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 17, 2017, 12:18:06 AM
I'm conscious that I don't want to start another sideshow with you, and in general, I respect what you're saying. I've made the choice not to commit financially to Laois because there is a lot that goes on that I disagree with. Way too much to go into in depth, but players drinking would be part of it. So I've informed the club that I won't be buying or selling the ticket for the foreseeable future. That's my choice and I'm happy enough with it. If lads want to drink and play football that's their business, but I don't believe that any county worth it's salt would tolerate that, and we did. Just my opinion and don't care who thinks if I'm right or wrong. We win nothing and we go nowhere with drinkers
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: portlaoisekid on November 17, 2017, 08:44:50 AM
Some interesting rumours around regarding transfers of some Laois footballers. One out of Laois and a couple of moves inside the county.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 17, 2017, 10:04:29 AM
I'm conscious that I don't want to start another sideshow with you, and in general, I respect what you're saying. I've made the choice not to commit financially to Laois because there is a lot that goes on that I disagree with. Way too much to go into in depth, but players drinking would be part of it. So I've informed the club that I won't be buying or selling the ticket for the foreseeable future. That's my choice and I'm happy enough with it. If lads want to drink and play football that's their business, but I don't believe that any county worth it's salt would tolerate that, and we did. Just my opinion and don't care who thinks if I'm right or wrong. We win nothing and we go nowhere with drinkers
You realise, in essence, its your club you're punishing, not Laois GAA?
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 17, 2017, 10:05:13 AM
Some interesting rumours around regarding transfers of some Laois footballers. One out of Laois and a couple of moves inside the county.
Fire them up there buddy
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: SCFC on November 17, 2017, 10:15:46 AM
If it Sean Moore, it's not accurate. He's not leaving Ballyfin.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 17, 2017, 10:17:04 AM
If it Sean Moore, it's not accurate. He's not leaving Ballyfin.
Cant see why he would. Be very strange, and disappointing if another club was trying to poach a player already at senior level.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 17, 2017, 10:57:20 AM
I'm conscious that I don't want to start another sideshow with you, and in general, I respect what you're saying. I've made the choice not to commit financially to Laois because there is a lot that goes on that I disagree with. Way too much to go into in depth, but players drinking would be part of it. So I've informed the club that I won't be buying or selling the ticket for the foreseeable future. That's my choice and I'm happy enough with it. If lads want to drink and play football that's their business, but I don't believe that any county worth it's salt would tolerate that, and we did. Just my opinion and don't care who thinks if I'm right or wrong. We win nothing and we go nowhere with drinkers
You realise, in essence, its your club you're punishing, not Laois GAA?

I do plenty for the club on a voluntary basis so I wouldn't just measure my contribution financially. Like most clubs in Laois, they too can have a fairly casual approach at Senior level. It honestly doesn't matter that much to me any more. I'd love to see us go well obviously, but there always seems to be a few rogues in the Laois set up and with that mindset, you can't expect too much
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Laois fan on November 17, 2017, 11:03:39 AM
If it Sean Moore, it's not accurate. He's not leaving Ballyfin.
Cant see why he would. Be very strange, and disappointing if another club was trying to poach a player already at senior level.
where too plaois?hardly mountmelick.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 17, 2017, 11:07:55 AM
I'm conscious that I don't want to start another sideshow with you, and in general, I respect what you're saying. I've made the choice not to commit financially to Laois because there is a lot that goes on that I disagree with. Way too much to go into in depth, but players drinking would be part of it. So I've informed the club that I won't be buying or selling the ticket for the foreseeable future. That's my choice and I'm happy enough with it. If lads want to drink and play football that's their business, but I don't believe that any county worth it's salt would tolerate that, and we did. Just my opinion and don't care who thinks if I'm right or wrong. We win nothing and we go nowhere with drinkers
You realise, in essence, its your club you're punishing, not Laois GAA?

I do plenty for the club on a voluntary basis so I wouldn't just measure my contribution financially. Like most clubs in Laois, they too can have a fairly casual approach at Senior level. It honestly doesn't matter that much to me any more. I'd love to see us go well obviously, but there always seems to be a few rogues in the Laois set up and with that mindset, you can't expect too much
So anyone who does something voluntarily for a Club is absolved of any fundraising requirements? Interesting approach.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 17, 2017, 11:22:17 AM
I do plenty of fundraising, mostly at juvenile level. I think in general, a lot of good and positive work goes on in Laois at underage level. The wheels come off after that.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 17, 2017, 12:18:08 PM
This poaching business sickens my arse . Surely they can find enough players in a town of 25,000 without having to poach off smaller clubs .bullshit
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: portlaoisekid on November 17, 2017, 12:45:39 PM
This poaching business sickens my arse . Surely they can find enough players in a town of 25,000 without having to poach off smaller clubs .bullshit
Who the hell said Portlaoise are after anyone!?
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: portlaoisekid on November 17, 2017, 12:50:03 PM
Some interesting rumours around regarding transfers of some Laois footballers. One out of Laois and a couple of moves inside the county.
Fire them up there buddy
One to Athy and another one to make a short move to Josephs I heard. Don't know its true but they both have come from a lad who knows more than me about these things.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: brandyandPORT on November 17, 2017, 03:34:59 PM
Kingston is a massive loss  :'(

Looking at where a primary scoring forward will emerge from will be intriguing.
 
 I think Sugrue made some good choices in picking his back room team.
I think paul Kingston Gary walsh and Alan farrell will step up
Besiides eoin Kearns and stack who else is in there???

Sorry but your talking of replacing Donie with 2 players who were not regular starters under the previous 3 managers, And another who spent the majority of his time with Laois in his own half working (obviously in a role he was asked to play by the previous manager)????

Paul Kingston- Talented footballer, Incredible at times. but hasn't the same physical presence or scoring volume of his sibling

Gary Walsh- Good, But wont contribute the scores Donie has.

Alan Farrell- A workhorse forward, Good skillset but not a prolific scorer.

Maybe this system will suit them, and allow them to flourish.




Kearns could have took any of the other Laois gigs on his own merit.

Stack knows that group, and will have better guidance on the direction of the team than he had with his previous time with Laois

Brendan Delaney-Reportedly very good, and has previously worked with John, It must be said trust in any managerial setup is key !!!

The S&C guy has come from left of field, so I cant comment, as I know very little on him

Think that's the lot.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Unlaoised on November 17, 2017, 03:46:02 PM
Brendan Delaney Is that the umpire from stradbally? ???
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: brandyandPORT on November 17, 2017, 03:58:38 PM
Brendan Delaney Is that the umpire from stradbally? ???




No this man is from Park, and he would be a father of the twins.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 17, 2017, 06:02:13 PM
Kingston is a massive loss  :'(

Looking at where a primary scoring forward will emerge from will be intriguing.
 
 I think Sugrue made some good choices in picking his back room team.
I think paul Kingston Gary walsh and Alan farrell will step up
Besiides eoin Kearns and stack who else is in there???

Sorry but your talking of replacing Donie with 2 players who were not regular starters under the previous 3 managers, And another who spent the majority of his time with Laois in his own half working (obviously in a role he was asked to play by the previous manager)????

Paul Kingston- Talented footballer, Incredible at times. but hasn't the same physical presence or scoring volume of his sibling

Gary Walsh- Good, But wont contribute the scores Donie has.

Alan Farrell- A workhorse forward, Good skillset but not a prolific scorer.

Maybe this system will suit them, and allow them to flourish.




Kearns could have took any of the other Laois gigs on his own merit.

Stack knows that group, and will have better guidance on the direction of the team than he had with his previous time with Laois

Brendan Delaney-Reportedly very good, and has previously worked with John, It must be said trust in any managerial setup is key !!!

The S&C guy has come from left of field, so I cant comment, as I know very little on him

Think that's the lot.

Good info thanks for that a lad on trials said there was one more in there fella from cork supposed to be very good.
God no im not on about replacing donnie cause you cant really but i think those lads could step up and do a job. They wont score as much but will work.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: The Monument Road on November 17, 2017, 06:27:20 PM
Some interesting rumours around regarding transfers of some Laois footballers. One out of Laois and a couple of moves inside the county.
Fire them up there buddy
One to Athy and another one to make a short move to Josephs I heard. Don't know its true but they both have come from a lad who knows more than me about these things.
Sensational transfer request is in the pipeline i hear. It is jaw dropping but to be fair to the individual i cannot say anything further. Letting the name onto a public forum would probably allow grumblers to begin a campaign to immobilize the individuals chances of the transfer succeeding. I hear the chances of the transfer going through is almost 100% certain. 
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 17, 2017, 06:38:09 PM
Some interesting rumours around regarding transfers of some Laois footballers. One out of Laois and a couple of moves inside the county.
Fire them up there buddy
One to Athy and another one to make a short move to Josephs I heard. Don't know its true but they both have come from a lad who knows more than me about these things.
Sensational transfer request is in the pipeline i hear. It is jaw dropping but to be fair to the individual i cannot say anything further. Letting the name onto a public forum would probably allow grumblers to begin a campaign to immobilize the individuals chances of the transfer succeeding. I hear the chances of the transfer going through is almost 100% certain.
You cant say who it is but can you say who it isn't.
Kingston brothers can you say its not them
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: The Monument Road on November 17, 2017, 06:49:24 PM
Some interesting rumours around regarding transfers of some Laois footballers. One out of Laois and a couple of moves inside the county.
Fire them up there buddy
One to Athy and another one to make a short move to Josephs I heard. Don't know its true but they both have come from a lad who knows more than me about these things.
Sensational transfer request is in the pipeline i hear. It is jaw dropping but to be fair to the individual i cannot say anything further. Letting the name onto a public forum would probably allow grumblers to begin a campaign to immobilize the individuals chances of the transfer succeeding. I hear the chances of the transfer going through is almost 100% certain.
You cant say who it is but can you say who it isn't.
Kingston brothers can you say its not them
Before this gathers momentum can i clarify this,i am referring to a solitary individual transfer being sought. Transfers to my knowledge can only be sought on an individual basis, not in group form.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Don Draper on November 17, 2017, 07:17:06 PM
Some interesting rumours around regarding transfers of some Laois footballers. One out of Laois and a couple of moves inside the county.
Fire them up there buddy
One to Athy and another one to make a short move to Josephs I heard. Don't know its true but they both have come from a lad who knows more than me about these things.
Sensational transfer request is in the pipeline i hear. It is jaw dropping but to be fair to the individual i cannot say anything further. Letting the name onto a public forum would probably allow grumblers to begin a campaign to immobilize the individuals chances of the transfer succeeding. I hear the chances of the transfer going through is almost 100% certain.
Incredible to think Zach would be coming back, and to Stradbally no less, Jesus that’s unbelievable news.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Target Man on November 17, 2017, 07:22:55 PM
Well at least Zach to Stradbally would be jaw dropping. I'm not sure a Kingston transfer anywhere would even register mild surprise unfortunately
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: redsetanta on November 17, 2017, 10:17:56 PM
No a Kingston transfer wouldn't be a surprise but still big news.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: brandyandPORT on November 17, 2017, 11:38:56 PM
Kingston is a massive loss  :'(

Looking at where a primary scoring forward will emerge from will be intriguing.
 
 I think Sugrue made some good choices in picking his back room team.
I think paul Kingston Gary walsh and Alan farrell will step up
Besiides eoin Kearns and stack who else is in there???

Sorry but your talking of replacing Donie with 2 players who were not regular starters under the previous 3 managers, And another who spent the majority of his time with Laois in his own half working (obviously in a role he was asked to play by the previous manager)????

Paul Kingston- Talented footballer, Incredible at times. but hasn't the same physical presence or scoring volume of his sibling

Gary Walsh- Good, But wont contribute the scores Donie has.

Alan Farrell- A workhorse forward, Good skillset but not a prolific scorer.

Maybe this system will suit them, and allow them to flourish.




Kearns could have took any of the other Laois gigs on his own merit.

Stack knows that group, and will have better guidance on the direction of the team than he had with his previous time with Laois

Brendan Delaney-Reportedly very good, and has previously worked with John, It must be said trust in any managerial setup is key !!!

The S&C guy has come from left of field, so I cant comment, as I know very little on him

Think that's the lot.

Good info thanks for that a lad on trials said there was one more in there fella from cork supposed to be very good.
God no im not on about replacing donnie cause you cant really but i think those lads could step up and do a job. They wont score as much but will work.

Was talking to one of the lad I know that was in for trials, Seemingly it's Brian Breen, I'd say he's only in to Ref the in house games, as he would be barely capable of that let alone any other task!!!

Well if we can't replace Donie's scores, We will be in a world of bother in the championship, as he scored the majority of our scores last year!!!!!!

On the transfer saga, are we looking at a big name down that side???




Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 18, 2017, 12:29:49 AM
Its fairly obvious that Monument Road wants it "out there" that this player/players is/are SEEKING a transfer.
The club they are seeking to transfer to ARE NOT, I repeat ARE NOT out looking for them to transfer.

Reminds me of a scene from Fr Ted
***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: BallyroanAbu on November 18, 2017, 01:01:27 AM
Monument Road is a Josephs man  ? 
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: High Fielder on November 18, 2017, 03:07:05 AM
I'll take a stab at Meaney to Josephs. Lives in the area and known to be unhappy with set up in Kilcruise. Just a guess but lacks the jaw drop factor. Kingstons to Athy would hardly loosen your jaw either. Kingstons to Kildare? You'd need surgery to mend that jaw. You gotta love the close season . Much better craic than the real thing
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 18, 2017, 08:34:54 AM
Kingston is a massive loss  :'(

Looking at where a primary scoring forward will emerge from will be intriguing.
 
 I think Sugrue made some good choices in picking his back room team.
I think paul Kingston Gary walsh and Alan farrell will step up
Besiides eoin Kearns and stack who else is in there???

Sorry but your talking of replacing Donie with 2 players who were not regular starters under the previous 3 managers, And another who spent the majority of his time with Laois in his own half working (obviously in a role he was asked to play by the previous manager)????

Paul Kingston- Talented footballer, Incredible at times. but hasn't the same physical presence or scoring volume of his sibling

Gary Walsh- Good, But wont contribute the scores Donie has.

Alan Farrell- A workhorse forward, Good skillset but not a prolific scorer.

Maybe this system will suit them, and allow them to flourish.




Kearns could have took any of the other Laois gigs on his own merit.

Stack knows that group, and will have better guidance on the direction of the team than he had with his previous time with Laois

Brendan Delaney-Reportedly very good, and has previously worked with John, It must be said trust in any managerial setup is key !!!

The S&C guy has come from left of field, so I cant comment, as I know very little on him

Think that's the lot.

Good info thanks for that a lad on trials said there was one more in there fella from cork supposed to be very good.
God no im not on about replacing donnie cause you cant really but i think those lads could step up and do a job. They wont score as much but will work.

Was talking to one of the lad I know that was in for trials, Seemingly it's Brian Breen, I'd say he's only in to Ref the in house games, as he would be barely capable of that let alone any other task!!!

Well if we can't replace Donie's scores, We will be in a world of bother in the championship, as he scored the majority of our scores last year!!!!!!

On the transfer saga, are we looking at a big name down that side???
Ah brian breen na i doubt he is in reffing saw mousey moore myself doing a few of those matches he was moving well to be fsir. Thats Brian breen from o Dempseys i presume 2 good years under the belt promotion and leage pleasant to deal with from all accounts im guessing with PORT being in your username its local rivalry. Lets be positive give lads a chance before cutting the legs from under them
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Pablo Escobar on November 18, 2017, 11:02:11 AM
Kingston to Athy has been a rumour for a The last seven off seasons. I’ll believe it when I see it. Josephs involves in transfer rumours?? No way ! I know if I was a josephs man it would sicken my b***x. It’s basically telling your players ok your not good enough. We will bring in this other  fella.

Anyway does anyone have a list of lads training with Laois at the moment . I read today Ben Conroy is involved.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: The Monument Road on November 18, 2017, 11:07:25 AM
Its fairly obvious that Monument Road wants it "out there" that this player/players is/are SEEKING a transfer.
The club they are seeking to transfer to ARE NOT, I repeat ARE NOT out looking for them to transfer.

Reminds me of a scene from Fr Ted
***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***
it's Saturday morning and I can't hold it back any longer...Cora Staunton to Kileen..
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Keyser Söze on November 18, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
Its fairly obvious that Monument Road wants it "out there" that this player/players is/are SEEKING a transfer.
The club they are seeking to transfer to ARE NOT, I repeat ARE NOT out looking for them to transfer.

Reminds me of a scene from Fr Ted
***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***NOT A RACIST***
it's Saturday morning and I can't hold it back any longer...Cora Staunton to Kileen..

Brilliant!  ;D
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Laoiseabu on November 18, 2017, 01:15:18 PM
Just tell us who the transfer is
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: OTF on November 18, 2017, 02:12:25 PM
No no don’t tell us yet ...November is a horrible month keep it going till December
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: brandyandPORT on November 18, 2017, 03:44:30 PM
Kingston is a massive loss  :'(

Looking at where a primary scoring forward will emerge from will be intriguing.
 
 I think Sugrue made some good choices in picking his back room team.
I think paul Kingston Gary walsh and Alan farrell will step up
Besiides eoin Kearns and stack who else is in there???

Sorry but your talking of replacing Donie with 2 players who were not regular starters under the previous 3 managers, And another who spent the majority of his time with Laois in his own half working (obviously in a role he was asked to play by the previous manager)????

Paul Kingston- Talented footballer, Incredible at times. but hasn't the same physical presence or scoring volume of his sibling

Gary Walsh- Good, But wont contribute the scores Donie has.

Alan Farrell- A workhorse forward, Good skillset but not a prolific scorer.

Maybe this system will suit them, and allow them to flourish.




Kearns could have took any of the other Laois gigs on his own merit.

Stack knows that group, and will have better guidance on the direction of the team than he had with his previous time with Laois

Brendan Delaney-Reportedly very good, and has previously worked with John, It must be said trust in any managerial setup is key !!!

The S&C guy has come from left of field, so I cant comment, as I know very little on him

Think that's the lot.

Good info thanks for that a lad on trials said there was one more in there fella from cork supposed to be very good.
God no im not on about replacing donnie cause you cant really but i think those lads could step up and do a job. They wont score as much but will work.

Was talking to one of the lad I know that was in for trials, Seemingly it's Brian Breen, I'd say he's only in to Ref the in house games, as he would be barely capable of that let alone any other task!!!

Well if we can't replace Donie's scores, We will be in a world of bother in the championship, as he scored the majority of our scores last year!!!!!!

On the transfer saga, are we looking at a big name down that side???
Ah brian breen na i doubt he is in reffing saw mousey moore myself doing a few of those matches he was moving well to be fsir. Thats Brian breen from o Dempseys i presume 2 good years under the belt promotion and leage pleasant to deal with from all accounts im guessing with PORT being in your username its local rivalry. Lets be positive give lads a chance before cutting the legs from under them


Promoting a senior team back to senior as a selector is hardly a massive achievement???

Not in anyway connected to local rivalry, but I just feel he lacks the caliber to be involved in any inter-county setup.


Will it effect our county team this transfer  ????


Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: O moore parklife on November 18, 2017, 03:50:29 PM
Kingston is a massive loss  :'(

Looking at where a primary scoring forward will emerge from will be intriguing.
 
 I think Sugrue made some good choices in picking his back room team.
I think paul Kingston Gary walsh and Alan farrell will step up
Besiides eoin Kearns and stack who else is in there???

Sorry but your talking of replacing Donie with 2 players who were not regular starters under the previous 3 managers, And another who spent the majority of his time with Laois in his own half working (obviously in a role he was asked to play by the previous manager)????

Paul Kingston- Talented footballer, Incredible at times. but hasn't the same physical presence or scoring volume of his sibling

Gary Walsh- Good, But wont contribute the scores Donie has.

Alan Farrell- A workhorse forward, Good skillset but not a prolific scorer.

Maybe this system will suit them, and allow them to flourish.




Kearns could have took any of the other Laois gigs on his own merit.

Stack knows that group, and will have better guidance on the direction of the team than he had with his previous time with Laois

Brendan Delaney-Reportedly very good, and has previously worked with John, It must be said trust in any managerial setup is key !!!

The S&C guy has come from left of field, so I cant comment, as I know very little on him

Think that's the lot.

Good info thanks for that a lad on trials said there was one more in there fella from cork supposed to be very good.
God no im not on about replacing donnie cause you cant really but i think those lads could step up and do a job. They wont score as much but will work.

Was talking to one of the lad I know that was in for trials, Seemingly it's Brian Breen, I'd say he's only in to Ref the in house games, as he would be barely capable of that let alone any other task!!!

Well if we can't replace Donie's scores, We will be in a world of bother in the championship, as he scored the majority of our scores last year!!!!!!

On the transfer saga, are we looking at a big name down that side???
Ah brian breen na i doubt he is in reffing saw mousey moore myself doing a few of those matches he was moving well to be fsir. Thats Brian breen from o Dempseys i presume 2 good years under the belt promotion and leage pleasant to deal with from all accounts im guessing with PORT being in your username its local rivalry. Lets be positive give lads a chance before cutting the legs from under them


Promoting a senior team back to senior as a selector is hardly a massive achievement???

Not in anyway connected to local rivalry, but I just feel he lacks the caliber to be involved in any inter-county setup.


Will it effect our county team this transfer  ????
Ah that's fair enough thought he was a S and C coach doubt a lad with little experience would be a selector probably just giving a hand out. Anyone willing to go in and give a dig out with things they way they are has my respect best of luck to them all in there. Hopfully port get a few lads in there colm murphy might step up for donnie with a bit of coaching.
Title: Re: 2018 National Football League Division 4
Post by: Unlaoised on November 20, 2017, 04:17:49 PM
John O'Loughlin to portlaoise?