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#1
General discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
December 10, 2022, 09:48:02 AM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 09, 2022, 10:28:26 PM

Only really saw the penalty shootout in the pub but there seemed to be an awful lot of slabbering from both sides during the shootout - People forgeting that Dutch footballers have been a bunch of pricks for decades - Slap it up them I say, and better that the World Cup semis has teams from all across the globe in it, rather than 4 Europeans teams
#2
General discussion / Re: Ooh Ah Up The Ra
November 29, 2022, 11:28:02 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 29, 2022, 08:46:08 PM
There predecessors possibly did in the Civil War
And should that be celebrated?
#3
General discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
November 28, 2022, 07:21:09 AM
Let's hope Alan Shearer is packed off back to the studio - That was the worst co commentary stint I have ever heard.
#4
General discussion / Re: Ooh Ah Up The Ra
November 26, 2022, 12:13:46 AM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on November 25, 2022, 11:36:53 PM
Quote from: michaelg on November 25, 2022, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2022, 07:30:05 PM
Quote from: whitey on November 25, 2022, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: red hander on November 25, 2022, 07:03:40 PM
Is Foster going to apologise about attending the funeral of a mass murderer and eulogising him? Let's get things in perspective.

She's a public figure and is well able to account for her actions

This young lady is a private citizen who made a mistake

Not too worried about being a private citizen when uploading her video on social media

It's daft and unfortunately fair game
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Why is it 'unfortunately fair game'? You are either a horiible bigot or you are not? You can't have it both ways.




I'm not sure there's strong evidence that this girl is a bigot. Let alone a horrible one.

P.s I don't know who fcuked up the quoting but I couldn't get out of it.
Fairly sure, antagonistically chanting about an organisatin who carried out murder attempts on your father and bus driver, would qualify you as such.
#5
General discussion / Re: Ooh Ah Up The Ra
November 25, 2022, 11:17:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2022, 07:30:05 PM
Quote from: whitey on November 25, 2022, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: red hander on November 25, 2022, 07:03:40 PM
Is Foster going to apologise about attending the funeral of a mass murderer and eulogising him? Let's get things in perspective.

She's a public figure and is well able to account for her actions

This young lady is a private citizen who made a mistake

Not too worried about being a private citizen when uploading her video on social media

It's daft and unfortunately fair game
[/quote.
Why is it 'unfortunately fair game'? You are either a horiible bigot or you are not? You can't have it both ways.
#6
General discussion / Re: Ooh Ah Up The Ra
November 24, 2022, 05:52:54 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 24, 2022, 05:39:53 PM
Quote from: michaelg on November 24, 2022, 05:25:35 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on November 24, 2022, 09:46:06 AM
Yesterday, the Committee on the Administration of Justice (CAJ) released it's latest report which found that housing threats and racist attacks are widespread in areas under loyalist paramilitary control.

That's just a few weeks on from loyalists threatening to end their 1994 ceasefire and a issuing specific threat against any southern politician who crosses the border.

So it's definitely a good job so many people are determined to focus on the latest 'somebody said up the ra' scandal.
Maybe they should be focusing on the republican terrorists who have been more than threatening to get back to vilolence in recent days.

Taking discussion from the wtf thread to this one, hope mods or no one else has any objection.

In response to your comment there Michaelg, theres a clear difference in a few idiots claiming to be republicans making half arsed attempts at police which was widely condemned by nationalist politicians and actual criminal gangs having a clear sway with unionist political parties. But you already know that


So, can you only be termed ia Republican if you are a SF supporter?  Also, your 'half hearted attempts at police' is am awful comment.
#7
Quote from: Snapchap on November 24, 2022, 09:46:06 AM
Yesterday, the Committee on the Administration of Justice (CAJ) released it's latest report which found that housing threats and racist attacks are widespread in areas under loyalist paramilitary control.

That's just a few weeks on from loyalists threatening to end their 1994 ceasefire and a issuing specific threat against any southern politician who crosses the border.

So it's definitely a good job so many people are determined to focus on the latest 'somebody said up the ra' scandal.
Maybe they should be focusing on the republican terrorists who have been more than threatening to get back to vilolence in recent days.
#8
General discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022
November 19, 2022, 08:28:23 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 19, 2022, 08:12:21 AM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on November 18, 2022, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: The Trap on November 18, 2022, 09:47:51 PM
Will Qatar buy a result on Sunday against Equador?

I hope they get thumped
They have been training together for several months. Nobody else has. This year's winter tournament is like a blend between a major football gig and the O'Byrne cup.
They got beat by Linfield.
#9
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 03, 2022, 06:52:25 PM
Quote from: michaelg on November 03, 2022, 05:28:59 PM
Mary Lou McDonald
Shock lol
Nothing to do with her politics lol - Her voice would strip paint!
#10
Mary Lou McDonald
#11
General discussion / Re: Ooh Ah Up The Ra
October 17, 2022, 09:45:46 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on October 17, 2022, 09:25:06 AM
Quote from: ONeill on October 16, 2022, 11:18:11 PM
There's something happening at the minute and it's interesting to watch. Not sure if it's a reaction to being told by a Sky reporter how the Irish should behave or an acceptance of our own history but there's something happening here.

I think so too and it's the Southern media's response to this.

A bunch of Armagh or Tyrone camogs or ladies footballers and they'd be fair game for this overreaction for your one from Portadown trying to get some of the girls sacked, but they're Dubs, they're from Cork, Donegal and wherever..

So far it's been slightly more nuanced, Mullaly in the Irish Times touches on it (although she's quick to distinguish the new IRA from the Old IRA  ;)  ) as it's the young, modern Irish are proud of their Irish heritage and manifests itself in Republicanism whereas the older generations were still forelock tuggers to the English betters.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/2022/10/13/una-mullally-what-does-it-mean-to-say-up-the-ra-and-why-does-it-keep-happening/

Or maybe it's a bit of what Mulally points to but also the youth of Ireland being much better informed as to what actually happened up here during the troubles now that RTE has lost it's absolute control of the messaging relating to here.

They're now hearing that the British Army did run amok in Derry and Ballymurphy killing people who are just like them, they now know that the British Army were directly involved in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings, they now know that the British Army and the RUC worked cheek to jowl with Loyalist paramilitaries killed people like Sean Brown and Aidan McAnespie just for their love of GAA, just like them.

The truth may have set the youth of Ireland free, may it set Ireland free.
They must not have got the memo about Enniskillen, Shankill, Warrington, Bloody Friday etc
#12
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 13, 2022, 07:32:39 AM
Quote from: michaelg on October 12, 2022, 09:49:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2022, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: michaelg on October 12, 2022, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2022, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: highorlow on October 12, 2022, 12:37:54 PM
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That's the problem though. Why the fcuk would a team of footballers need to sign 'Oh ah up the Ra'?  It's bloody ridiculous. Banning phones is not the way to fix this, banning stupid f**king idiotic songs is how to fix it. Imagine if you had Linfield singing 'Billy Boys'?  The majority of that team where not even alive during the Troubles. People really need to f**king grow up

I'm both offended and confused now by your statement, i always thought that the "Ra" in the lyrics was the original IRA?

Don't be confused, whether its about the 'OLD' Ra or the new one, its doesn't matter to those that will turn these own goals into something they will use to say to 'their' crowd that the south are glorifying the Ra.. Now take the context away and its a bunch of Irish lady soccer players singing a popular Celtic song, and no one should get in a twist about it.

Allowing or giving the DUP any sort of ammunition just stokes up division and anyone who refuses to see that is an ostrich
On first view, I'm afraid I can't agree with you.  Pretty unpleasant way to celebrate a great success on the pitch.  As for stoking up division, it's the singing of the song itself that is doing that.

So you actually think these girls from the south of Ireland who have been born in a country that hasn't had the troubles, so have no history at all of the 'ra' new or old ra are singing a song to be sectarian? Personally I think they are singing a popular Celtic soccer song with no malice
So you can sing a sectarian Rangers song in Scotland (e.g. The Billy Boys) and not be sectarian?  Are you being serious?

What I've said is the girls have sang it without malice I've also said they are very stupid to have done it to. If you believe that they are 'republicans' or support the Ra then you are wrong. But the next time the Billy boys is sang at Ibrox make sure you are in here complaining about it
Just pointing out there are sometimes double standards when it comes to these things.  'Ach, sure it's just a bit of 'craici' and 'sure this is sung in pubs and clubs up and down the land' is a commonly held view on here.  Similarly, singing Rebel Songs in back of bus during Jackie Charlton's time was never called out and was just glossed over.  Can't imagine the same reaction if something similar had happened with the NI team.
You are always going to get incidents like this at Ibrox and Parkhead, so no I won't be on here complaining about it as you have requested.
#13
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2022, 06:28:15 PM
Quote from: michaelg on October 12, 2022, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2022, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: highorlow on October 12, 2022, 12:37:54 PM
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That's the problem though. Why the fcuk would a team of footballers need to sign 'Oh ah up the Ra'?  It's bloody ridiculous. Banning phones is not the way to fix this, banning stupid f**king idiotic songs is how to fix it. Imagine if you had Linfield singing 'Billy Boys'?  The majority of that team where not even alive during the Troubles. People really need to f**king grow up

I'm both offended and confused now by your statement, i always thought that the "Ra" in the lyrics was the original IRA?

Don't be confused, whether its about the 'OLD' Ra or the new one, its doesn't matter to those that will turn these own goals into something they will use to say to 'their' crowd that the south are glorifying the Ra.. Now take the context away and its a bunch of Irish lady soccer players singing a popular Celtic song, and no one should get in a twist about it.

Allowing or giving the DUP any sort of ammunition just stokes up division and anyone who refuses to see that is an ostrich
On first view, I'm afraid I can't agree with you.  Pretty unpleasant way to celebrate a great success on the pitch.  As for stoking up division, it's the singing of the song itself that is doing that.

So you actually think these girls from the south of Ireland who have been born in a country that hasn't had the troubles, so have no history at all of the 'ra' new or old ra are singing a song to be sectarian? Personally I think they are singing a popular Celtic soccer song with no malice
So you can sing a sectarian Rangers song in Scotland (e.g. The Billy Boys) and not be sectarian?  Are you being serious? 
#14
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2022, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: highorlow on October 12, 2022, 12:37:54 PM
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That's the problem though. Why the fcuk would a team of footballers need to sign 'Oh ah up the Ra'?  It's bloody ridiculous. Banning phones is not the way to fix this, banning stupid f**king idiotic songs is how to fix it. Imagine if you had Linfield singing 'Billy Boys'?  The majority of that team where not even alive during the Troubles. People really need to f**king grow up

I'm both offended and confused now by your statement, i always thought that the "Ra" in the lyrics was the original IRA?

Don't be confused, whether its about the 'OLD' Ra or the new one, its doesn't matter to those that will turn these own goals into something they will use to say to 'their' crowd that the south are glorifying the Ra.. Now take the context away and its a bunch of Irish lady soccer players singing a popular Celtic song, and no one should get in a twist about it.

Allowing or giving the DUP any sort of ammunition just stokes up division and anyone who refuses to see that is an ostrich
On first view, I'm afraid I can't agree with you.  Pretty unpleasant way to celebrate a great success on the pitch.  As for stoking up division, it's the singing of the song itself that is doing that.
#15
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 20, 2022, 07:22:23 PM
A lot of unionists seem to  go  "all out" to prove   their loyalty,  attachment etc to Britain at every available opportunity.  A royal visit/event ,  the 12th, team GB Olympic team etc . Anything that has a  crown or Union Jack attached , they go Over the top

It's like they  have to prove to  Britain, to northern nationalists, and mostly , themselves ..that  they are so British, so loyal to Britain , the crown and  anything remotely   British.
The same argument could be made in reverse.  10,000 pished up folk singing Ooh Aah Up the Ra in Falls Park springs to mind.

Do you not accept that Unionists in Northern Ireland have a British identity?  Republicans telling them that are not not is not going to really win hearts and minds in any debate around a UI.