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Good man I'll have a gander.

I'm not the only one who struggles with reading 

Any decent podcasts or listen back episodes out for the final yet?? I was hoping we'd have a few yesterday but the ones I usually listen to seem to have all be about the ladies final day

[on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland]

Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol

Kerry men had medals in 02 and Armagh had them in 03. No-one in the game has.

f**k me I'm a dope, of course, I was going by the winners not having any medals.

I just caught up with the last 10 pages and I tell ye what it's been a pleasure to read, decent debate, tactical analysis, very little spouting shite about the opposition, no crying about refs. A little bit of nonsense about who's supporters are most confident, like that matters a damn.

Anyway, I have my bunting up here in South Sligo, I might as well be in the heart of Mayo here with all the green and red flags!!

I had a spin down to Galway on Sunday and I have to say the Mayo part of the N17 is well decked out so as always fair play to ye, it's great to see and well replicated up home by all accounts.

[on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland]

Parts of it I agree with but on the field both teams have no one who has won an all Ireland. Both teams know how to win tight games. Both teams have came out of semi finals where their opponents were deemed to lose the game rather than them win it.

Mayo have Keegan durcan O'Shea McLoughlin who have a lot of experience. Tyrone have Donnelly Harte hampsey McNamee. There are a fair few younger ones in both teams.

It is one of those games I wouldn't be surprised what happens in most cases. Definitely a great one for the neutral to look forward to.

Was thinking about this the other day. Would it be the first time since 2012? Is 2010 the only other time this century?

Erm....

2002 and 2003. How would you forget 2003 lol

There should be a simple quiz given to anyone before gaining entry to the All Ireland. A lot of Hill 16 Dubs would fail on questions like; Name three current players from your county team.

Easy, Jayo, Clucko and Connolly the big roide

I didn't see anything from the Mayo media day they did after the Kerry game. Who did they put up?

I was quite impressed by what Tyrone did, a good few people available and the interviews up on the Offtheball youtube were quite interesting.

United have no assembled a fantastic squad apart from the obvious issue in midfield. United still playing catch up and it will stop us challenging for the title on paper. Whether Ole is upto to it is another issue which we should find out this season. Next summer Pogba & Cavani will leave the club for free so the never ending playing catch up will likely continue.

I'm not a huge fan of Rice but apparently Ole is so United should have tested West Ham's resolve with a cash plus Lingard offer. Rice would have created a huge fuss over it. Fred has been awful since January, his level of performance had upped when Ole came in but his from gas really dipped the last 9 months. McTominay will probably get the chance to make the position his own but he doesn't suit the role. Lots of decisions to make in big matches as he's very rarely gone with Pogba & Fernandes in a middle 3 in those matches.

Even still this is easily the most talented group of players United have had since 2009, the team that won the league in 2011 & 2013 aren't a patch on this lot talent wise; There's plenty to be excited and positive about.

All correct. The 2011 and maybe less so the 2013 panels are less strong than this, maybe better players in their prime but definitely coming to the end of their careers for a lot of them. The big difference was the greatest manager of all time at the helm.

I will say again. Why are Mayo people giving out about the ref and the ball hasn't been thrown in.... get on with it and get over it ffs

I'm from Tyrone if you're referring to me.

Ronaldo tho. Misses a pen and still comes up with the goods. Pissed me off tonight but hopefully he'll be doing that to all the PL teams we face.

Thought and hoped David Gough would be the ref. He is the best in my view.......from what I have seen Joe gets a lot of big calls wrong, doesn't let the game flow and can lean in one direction or the other. He will probably have a bearing on the outcome in one way or another.......one question.....would this match be decided on penalties if needed or go to a replay? Definitely think it should be a replay and not penalties!

Above all refs that seems to pick one side for special attention Gough is the worst and he's the fussiest.

[They'll be reliant on working it out from the back,]

Are Brendan Harrison and Enda Hession in contention to start for Mayo.  Will Tyrone start McShane or Canavan? Will O'Shea be moved to centre field and Tyrone weakness?

Harrison only got a few minutes in extra-time the last day, so I doubt he's fit to start. Hession was very impressive when he came on with his pace and lack of fear breaking the Dublin defensive lines in that second half so he should definitely be in contention.

McShane should be sprung off the bench where he's been most effective. Canavan is very young and hasn't played much this year due to injury, so I think the Tyrone management will side with experience on the big day.

James Horan should drop O'Shea. He was a liability against Dublin with his inability to track runners. He's just not suited to the wide open spaces of Croke Park.

Oshea struggles against Dublin and Kerry as teams superior athletes around the middle.  Unless Tyrone put McKenna on OShea will struggle against his physicality.

Not sure I'd have said "struggles", until the past 2 outings against Dublin when as well as being exposed for speed regularly at midfield, he clearly missed having his henchmen Seamie and Tom alongside him for the aerial duels. Mayo used to be able to spread the 3 of them across the middle third and they didn't need a whole pile of pace as long as the keepers were kicking it long. They won more than their share and had a habit of locking opponents in when they didn't.

Tyrone could try to set up a game plan to outrun O'Shea and wear the legs off him, but I can't see them winning enough primary possession in the middle third to make it a feature of the game. They'll be reliant on working it out from the back, which will allow Mayo numbers back. If they kick long time O'Shea, they won't win the ball.

They wont. They will go long. It malfunctioned against Kerry but retaining possession from kick outs by going short to a corner back is something Morgan has come out and said that they have moved away from because while it pads his stats for ball retantion it's completely useless in terms of getting scores.

Kerry won 100% of their kick outs the last day and only crossed the 45  once. 4 scores is all they got.

I'd absolutely be starting McShane now for the final. He came on after 43 minutes in the semi, so played around 60 minutes at full championship intensity and bar a handling error when he first came on he looked great.

Sluddens was worse.