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Speak of an Ass and he is sure to Pass

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dublin-jimmy-once-threatened-to-shoot-paymaster-who-hired-him-to-carry-out-attacks-on-former-quinn-companies-38683633.html

"... the financier..." 

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/sean-quinn-in-terrifying-good-friday-death-threat-30409388.html

Putting those 2 articles back to back and you don't have to be Einstein to know who they are pointing at. At this stage if SQ is not involved he would be best to present himself to the authorities for questioning to clear his name because unfortunately for him he is already guilty in many peoples eyes by association.

He has spoken to the PSNI and the Guards voluntarily already. I don't think there's much else he can do unless they come knocking with a warrant. Which if the papers are to be believed should be any day now. Unless there's things being presented as fact in the papers that is more conjecture. 

It looks like they must be close you would think given all the inches in the papers. Surely just a matter of time. I'd be surprised if no-one's lifted before the weekend. Seems like they have all the evidence required going by the papers.

Indeed, it's all pointing in one direction. Getting the evidence from England might take a bit of time but I half expect in the meantime that certain parties might lift the phone and confess to the Gardai in the hope of avoiding jail for what they have done.  Maybe I'm expecting too much.

That's if the papers are right, they seem to all be pointing in the one direction. Certainly from what I'm hearing the person they are pointing the finger at is also keen to see it progress as his name won't be cleared (If he's not involved) until they do. So I'm sure we'll hear soon one way or the other.

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The irish media are some spoofers. Lining up to be on TV to tell us all that they knew about "dublin jimmy" yet Google his now famous name and you'll barely find a mention of him (prior to this last few weeks). Likewise you'll find hardly anything about what's been going on in ballyconnel for years. Yet today these spoofers know everything and even question what gardai were doing.

Would you be happy if the story was true that "Dublin Jimmy" left a treasure trove of information on his laptop, so that the actual paymaster may be identified, and hopefully arrested and jailed?

Yes I would, however everyone is looking for a bogeyman. I don't believe there is this one "paymaster" as they like to call it. Time will tell, maybe I am wrong and if I am I will happily admit it. I hope the thugs involved get whats coming to them thats for sure.

Whatever about the thugs I think it's more important they find the people financing them and contracting out the attacks.

It looks like they must be close you would think given all the inches in the papers. Surely just a matter of time. I'd be surprised if no-one's lifted before the weekend. Seems like they have all the evidence required going by the papers.

[Fabinho was outstanding. If he starts scoring goals then he will rival Kante as the best defensive midfielder in the league.]

Great to see Sean Cox there. Dont know what his prognosis is but hopefully he can continue his recovery. Awful time for him and his family.

On the game great result. Two very good teams playing some wonderful football at times. If Liverpool had played like that in any of the other games this season there would not have been the nervous last ten minutes clinging on to a one goal lead.

I think Liverpool were lucky with the first pen, for me it should have been given. I can see why the VAR ref did not want to overrule given the "ricochet" provider but I think TAA had time to react, unlike Silva. Second one was a nonsense, never a pen. I'm not sure on the VAR rules but would the VAR ref have been able to make a call on the Silva handball in the first incident? If the ball had dropped to Aguero and he scored it would have been chalked off because of the Silva handball. I think the rule is that if it touches a attacking player arm in the lead up to a goal it is an automatic foul regardless of intent. In the match it did not lead up to a goal so i am not sure it could have been called? It clearly was not a handball in the normal (no goal awarded) interpretation?

On the game itself Fabinho was outstanding. If he starts scoring goals then he will rival Kante as the best defensive midfielder in the league. The whole team played well and I think you saw what Henderson give the team when he went off. TAA was a lot more exposed after that. Defense played well but City did miss a lot of chances. Not sure what was up with Aguero, the header and the miss in the second half were really strange, he seemed to just completely loose his bearings.

He already is!
Great to see Sean Cox and his family at the game. Very touching to see Klopp holding his hand there.

He's been fantastic. Such an important player for Liverpool now.

Have Itchy and Supersarsfields any idea who the paymaster might be or do they believe that he is a fabrication?

I've a fair idea who I think is behind it. But I'll hold my council till I've something to back it up.

Whoever it is would need some significant financial clout and a motive behind it which should narrow the suspect list.

I'm sure we'll find out soon Angelo. I know if I'm wrong and SQ was involved I'll be man enough to admit I was wrong about it.

Any of his children hardly crazy enough to be involved?

Can't see it. The interest in the group was always more SQ than the children. Most of the children have moved on into other things and only one is living local to the Fermanagh/ Cavan area.

The son still retains a heavy interest in the businesses and has made a number of inflammatory comments about the current directors as outlined in the articles above.

He really doesn't. He's more focused on QuinnBet. Does he think much of the Directors? No. But I know his interests lie elsewhere at the minute.

I doubt it, very much like his father I think he wants that business empire back that he feels he is entitled to.

We'll agree to disagree.

Have Itchy and Supersarsfields any idea who the paymaster might be or do they believe that he is a fabrication?

I've a fair idea who I think is behind it. But I'll hold my council till I've something to back it up.

Whoever it is would need some significant financial clout and a motive behind it which should narrow the suspect list.

I'm sure we'll find out soon Angelo. I know if I'm wrong and SQ was involved I'll be man enough to admit I was wrong about it.

Any of his children hardly crazy enough to be involved?

Can't see it. The interest in the group was always more SQ than the children. Most of the children have moved on into other things and only one is living local to the Fermanagh/ Cavan area.

The son still retains a heavy interest in the businesses and has made a number of inflammatory comments about the current directors as outlined in the articles above.

He really doesn't. He's more focused on QuinnBet. Does he think much of the Directors? No. But I know his interests lie elsewhere at the minute.

Have Itchy and Supersarsfields any idea who the paymaster might be or do they believe that he is a fabrication?

I've a fair idea who I think is behind it. But I'll hold my council till I've something to back it up.

Whoever it is would need some significant financial clout and a motive behind it which should narrow the suspect list.

I'm sure we'll find out soon Angelo. I know if I'm wrong and SQ was involved I'll be man enough to admit I was wrong about it.

Any of his children hardly crazy enough to be involved?

Can't see it. The interest in the group was always more SQ than the children. Most of the children have moved on into other things and only one is living local to the Fermanagh/ Cavan area.

Have Itchy and Supersarsfields any idea who the paymaster might be or do they believe that he is a fabrication?

I've a fair idea who I think is behind it. But I'll hold my council till I've something to back it up.

Whoever it is would need some significant financial clout and a motive behind it which should narrow the suspect list.

I'm sure we'll find out soon Angelo. I know if I'm wrong and SQ was involved I'll be man enough to admit I was wrong about it.

Have Itchy and Supersarsfields any idea who the paymaster might be or do they believe that he is a fabrication?

I've a fair idea who I think is behind it. But I'll hold my council till I've something to back it up.

I hear the premises raided in Derrylin/ Teemore are linked to the family of the person involved in the incident earlier in the year where KL got his nose broke.

Alert popped up on my Honda CR-V yesterday. It says 'check system' with a symbol which when I looked it up online is to do with DPF. Something to do with a soot build up due to lack of long journeys with higher revs. On advice of my mechanic I took the car on a long drive down motorway hoping that the problem would clear but alas no.
Anyone familiar with this problem and how to go about sorting it?

You could try one of the DPF cleaning additives. Have used one before went for a longer spin and seemed to work. Although it may have  just worked without it as well. But for the price, worth trying.

[It works in his favour if it's successful, if the directors step down and the business goes on the market.]

So what do the Pro Quinn posters here believe is the motive behind these attacks now that you can effectively rule out extortion?

Do they really believe this is vingilantism when it's clearly heavily funded by a moneyman?

If that was aimed at me, I had never claimed it was extortion. But it's equally as clear that the result of the attack is bad news for SQ. So do I think he was orchestrating things, No.   

Haven't really followed the story totally either but if it wasn't SQ orchestrating things then surely it was someone with a lot to gain financially from him regaining control of the business. If it is not SQ personally, then it would appear to be somebody close to him. Even if you simply sympathised with SQ's plight, that would not be enough to burn peoples homes, business, issue death threats and punishment beatings. That would just be the actions of a psychopath and you would think that there would have to be some other motive financial related. To claim extortion simply does not look feasible in this case especially when you hear of Lunney saying that he heard his attackers making a phonecall back to their boss on their way to driving him to a remote location before the beating.

I wouldn't and haven't argued that it wasn't been done in SQ's name. You have to remember the level of support he had in the local area and how motivated some people were in his support. He had 5000 people on the streets in Ballyconnell in the past. He helped a lot of local families over the years and it's been obvious the level of loyalty to him was fairly unique.
But I can't square how this attack would have worked in SQ's favour. There was always going to be a huge public outcry, there was always going to be huge media focus on the Quinns as a result, regardless of whether he's not involved directly it was always going to reflect bad on him and there was always going to be people pointing the finger at him. None of that works in his favour in trying to gain financial backing to be in a position to purchase QIH which was what SQ's end goal was. It would take stupidity of the highest level to be involved. And I don't think he's stupid.

It works in his favour if it's successful, if the directors step down and the business goes on the market. It works in his favour if the campaign of violence and intimidation is threatened against anyone else who wishes to purchase it other than SQ.

This is the same family, let us not forget, that hid assets to the value of hundreds of millions in order to renege on debts they had accumulated. They decided the taxpayer would have to pick it up.

It's quite clear SQ couldn't give a damn about anyone but himself.

Not unless he was able to purchase it with investment. Of which he has ruled himself out of doing. That beside the point that there's enough mud there now that he's unlikely to get investment in any business venture again.   

So what do the Pro Quinn posters here believe is the motive behind these attacks now that you can effectively rule out extortion?

Do they really believe this is vingilantism when it's clearly heavily funded by a moneyman?

If that was aimed at me, I had never claimed it was extortion. But it's equally as clear that the result of the attack is bad news for SQ. So do I think he was orchestrating things, No.   

Haven't really followed the story totally either but if it wasn't SQ orchestrating things then surely it was someone with a lot to gain financially from him regaining control of the business. If it is not SQ personally, then it would appear to be somebody close to him. Even if you simply sympathised with SQ's plight, that would not be enough to burn peoples homes, business, issue death threats and punishment beatings. That would just be the actions of a psychopath and you would think that there would have to be some other motive financial related. To claim extortion simply does not look feasible in this case especially when you hear of Lunney saying that he heard his attackers making a phonecall back to their boss on their way to driving him to a remote location before the beating.

I wouldn't and haven't argued that it wasn't been done in SQ's name. You have to remember the level of support he had in the local area and how motivated some people were in his support. He had 5000 people on the streets in Ballyconnell in the past. He helped a lot of local families over the years and it's been obvious the level of loyalty to him was fairly unique.
But I can't square how this attack would have worked in SQ's favour. There was always going to be a huge public outcry, there was always going to be huge media focus on the Quinns as a result, regardless of whether he's not involved directly it was always going to reflect bad on him and there was always going to be people pointing the finger at him. None of that works in his favour in trying to gain financial backing to be in a position to purchase QIH which was what SQ's end goal was. It would take stupidity of the highest level to be involved. And I don't think he's stupid.

[Maybe if he come out and said he's no interest in getting involved in QIH ever again then that might take some of the spotlight away from him.]

So what do the Pro Quinn posters here believe is the motive behind these attacks now that you can effectively rule out extortion?

Do they really believe this is vingilantism when it's clearly heavily funded by a moneyman?

If that was aimed at me, I had never claimed it was extortion. But it's equally as clear that the result of the attack is bad news for SQ. So do I think he was orchestrating things, No.   

Who possibly stands to gain from these lads standing down?

Even if he's not involved it really doesn't reflect well on Sean and his family.

Maybe if he come out and said he's no interest in getting involved in QIH ever again then that might take some of the spotlight away from him.

He has. In the interview with C4 he has withdrawn any interest in trying to pursue a return to the business now as a result of the attack.
I don't think there is much else he can do if he's not involved directly.

So what do the Pro Quinn posters here believe is the motive behind these attacks now that you can effectively rule out extortion?

Do they really believe this is vingilantism when it's clearly heavily funded by a moneyman?

If that was aimed at me, I had never claimed it was extortion. But it's equally as clear that the result of the attack is bad news for SQ. So do I think he was orchestrating things, No.