Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[seafoid]

Before the war started , Zelensky started a programme to look at Ukraine's weaknesses
under various scenarios including a war and mass immigration, in order to develop plans for each.
This is why the Russians failed to capture Kiev and decapitate the Ukrainian leadership. 
He is an impressive leader.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

He wants to make Ukraine like Israel after the war and invited a Azov member to speak at the Greek Parliament a couple of days ago.. if you ignore all the questionable stuff....

[Kidder81]

Is it right that there is no opposition party in Ukraine ?

[PadraicHenryPearse]

don't think that's correct.. he banned something like 10/11 smaller parties recently, I think the biggest of which held about 10% of the total parliament numbers

[manfromdelmonte]

Is it right that there is no opposition party in Ukraine ?

Who was funding the opposition?

[seafoid]

Is it right that there is no opposition party in Ukraine ?

Common in countries at war.

[burdizzo]

Is it right that there is no opposition party in Ukraine ?

Who was funding the opposition?

Ha ha! And who pulls Zelensky's strings?! And who got rid of Yanukovych?! You know, there's all sorts of murky stuff going on. I think it's a bit rich 'the west' arming Ukraine so that Ukraine will essentially do the west's fighting, almost by proxy. But, of course, Ukraine is the one taking all the punishment. It's as, I think it was PadraicHenryPearse said: instead of egging on Ukraine to fight to the death, they should be guiding them towards a settlement.
The other thing that bemuses me is the EU suddenly fast-tracking EU membership for Ukraine. Much of what goes on there would just not sit well w/ 'EU values', and the championing of Ukrainian sovereignty and nationalism also seems to go against EU goals.

[Eire90]

The majority of ukrainians wanted rid of yanukovich

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Yankovich pulled out of joining the EU at the last minute against his own promises hence it all kicking off back in 2014

[burdizzo]

Yankovich pulled out of joining the EU at the last minute against his own promises hence it all kicking off back in 2014

Humpf. He wasn't just about to join the EU. Anyway, politicians frequently break their promises, and it seldom leads to foreign-sponsored regime change.

[seafoid]

https://mobile.twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1512777682400038916

[seafoid]

Yankovich was pro Russia. Ukraine has been in a low level civil war manipulated by Putin for the last 15 years. The state was weak and easy to manipulate. The war may be a game changer because of the Russian butchery.


https://www.ft.com/content/1c0e6e15-c8fe-4a84-99dc-12b6836bf0f4
Nato member states have agreed to supply new types of advanced weaponry to Ukraine, alliance representatives said, as Kyiv prepares for an offensive by Russia in the country's east. The pledge came after a plea from Ukraine's foreign minister for western countries to move faster with supplies or risk seeing "many people die . . . because this help came too late". Six weeks since Vladimir Putin, Russia's president, ordered the invasion of Ukraine, Moscow's troops have largely withdrawn from territory north of Kyiv after failing to seize the capital but are regrouping and rearming ahead of an attempt to advance in the eastern Donbas region, Ukrainian and western officials said. That has sparked demands from Kyiv for western countries to supply more heavy weapons, armour and more advanced systems. Ukraine's foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba said he would use a Nato meeting in Brussels to ask for aircraft, missiles, armoured vehicles and heavy air defence systems, among others. Liz Truss, UK foreign secretary, told reporters after the meeting that member states had backed giving more weapons.

[Wildweasel74]

Russia had the last guy in place just like the current leader in Belarus again the population wishes. Beginning to think we got the odd communist on here. Still looking reasons to blame some body else but Russia. Russia was on the receiving end most during WW2 but they invaded Finland and Poland which readily forgot when talking about WW2. Britain and France declared war on Germany for invading Poland, yet Russia done the same, at the same time and they allied with them, go figure.

[Rossfan]

Didn't they seize Estonia,  Latvia and Lithuania at the time as well?

[seafoid]

Didn't they seize Estonia,  Latvia and Lithuania at the time as well?

Stalin was paranoid. He had 2 levels of buffer zone. The first was inside the Soviet Union- the Baltics, Belarus and Ukraine. The second was Eastern Europe.