Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[nrico2006]

Wimbledon talking about Banning Russian tennis players who have  family in Russia if they don't denounce Putin t

Weird one.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

Just ban russian players as unfair as that seems to some it just clears things up.

[Wildweasel74]

Does the UK not see the hypocritics they all are. They bombed the shite out of bagbad and other cities for weeks trying to knock out artillery and anti missile systems. The amount of civilians killed during that had to be tens of thousand. At least we bombed the shite out of nobody, so we can say what going on in Ukraine is so wrong. The UK hasn't much of a leg to stand on.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

It is hypocritical but at the same time it doesnt sit right having russians playing tennis aroud the world as if nothing is happening whilst their army flattens ukranian cities. God knows how many died in that theatre alone. The argument that ah but sure the brits did this and the Us did that doesnt somehow excuse russias actions.

[johnnycool]

It is hypocritical but at the same time it doesnt sit right having russians playing tennis aroud the world as if nothing is happening whilst their army flattens ukranian cities. God knows how many died in that theatre alone. The argument that ah but sure the brits did this and the Us did that doesnt somehow excuse russias actions.

I suppose it's the double standards that sticks a bit fellow Johnny...

There's numerous examples of it around the world

[nrico2006]

But you can't punish every citizen of a country because of that countries actions.

[Armamike]

The UK and US aren't the moral authorities they set themselves up as, given Iraq especially but that shouldn't be used to deflect  from the atrocities being inflicted by Russia right now.

[Gmac]

How are any football teams going to Qatar for the World Cup ?

[From the Bunker]

How are any football teams going to Qatar for the World Cup ?

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[Gmac]

How are any football teams going to Qatar for the World Cup ?

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yes with their rainbow flags and kneeling for social justice , all fake

[From the Bunker]

But you can't punish every citizen of a country because of that countries actions.

It's sort of like a peaceful protest. They are the minor victims in this war. If stopping a war causes a slight blip in their sporting career - so be it!

[imtommygunn]

Sadly the world is full of double standards. A big example of one these days is people calling out people as sheep for listening to the "MSM" because they believe it to believe "it" to be full of propagandist nonsense yet they read and believe stuff they read from "non MSM" which is also full of propagandist nonsense then they don't see the irony in it.

It's a pity the ordinary decent Russian will suffer it really is but with how bonkers your man is they do need to do something but tread carefully. Is it the right thing to do? I dunno that it is but then what is?

Like anything there is some political, and probably economical, opportunism going on too. It is just impossible to know what the right thing to do here without provoking world war three which many believe has begun anyway.

[johnnycool]

But you can't punish every citizen of a country because of that countries actions.

Yip, Boris Johnson has been peddling that line for weeks in relation to the Oligarchs.. 

[RadioGAAGAA]

How are any football teams going to Qatar for the World Cup ?

Indeed.

Another one, equally uncomfortable for most in the West (not just the USA).


Once upon a time, there was a country in the middle east with a largely secular government, and separation between religion and state. Elections that were widely believed to be open, fair and democratic. Yes, there were problems, including the unpredictability of a monarch still having an unduly large sway in matters, but it was heading the right direction.

Then, for self-serving reasons*, external actors overthrew the elected government of Mohammad Mosaddegh.

That was in 1953.

We're still compounding that error by doing deals with the known devils in the house of Saud rather than give the people of Iran the chance to take back their country. Its probably too late now. Those that knew democracy and understood it was worth fighting to regain are either dead or extremely old at this point.


*paranoia and greed

[Main Street]

It is hypocritical but at the same time it doesnt sit right having russians playing tennis aroud the world as if nothing is happening whilst their army flattens ukranian cities. God knows how many died in that theatre alone. The argument that ah but sure the brits did this and the Us did that doesnt somehow excuse russias actions.

I suppose it's the double standards that sticks a bit fellow Johnny...

There's numerous examples of it around the world

Along with economic sanctions and a cultural boycott there was a sporting boycott of South Africa enacted during the apartheid era, not lifted until Nelson Mandela walked free, free elections announced and end of the Apartheid system.
The difference then was that it had all started from the bottom, building popular support and popular movements. The boycott and sanctions hurt everybody in SA, probably hit people at the bottom more, but every sanction and every boycott had the total support of the ANC who promoted such worldwide resistance. I had no issues then with aspects of obvious hypocrisy in the boycott what trumped all debate was that the Apartheid system had to be smashed and in a similar way Russia has to be similarly boycotted and sanctioned on all levels.   
Yes, nobody has ever succeeded with sanctions when the USA starts wars. NATO doesn't start wars generally, it's the USA who starts wars, Nato either stands idly by or joins in later at some stage.