Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[armaghniac]

Von der Leyen told Zelenskyy off the cuff that Ukraine could be considered for EU membership.
She is a bit of a loose cannon.

She might be, although perhaps Ukraine needs more cannons.
Nevertheless, the EU is open to membership of any European country if they meet the requirements.
That said, I do not think that Ukraine should join the EU, a looser EFTA type arrangement would give them more flexibility.

[Gmac]

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

US preventing Poland from giving their MiG's to Ukraine, so yes you're right.

poland want to give them to the US and then they give them to Ukraine and the US want  them to give them directly to Ukraine neither country wants to be blamed for starting ww3 , in ww2 the US government made Britain pull bombers planes by horse over the Canadian border so they could say they didn't give them directly to the British .

[Gmac]

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

You do realize most people here don't listen to or hear the same hysterical incoherent right wing nonsense as you?

What are you on about?

it's not on cnn or msnbc so don't worry about it , not on fox either so don't come back with that played out line .

[J70]

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

You do realize most people here don't listen to or hear the same hysterical incoherent right wing nonsense as you?

What are you on about?

it's not on cnn or msnbc so don't worry about it , not on fox either so don't come back with that played out line .

Ok?

I still don't know what you're on about.

[Gmac]

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

You do realize most people here don't listen to or hear the same hysterical incoherent right wing nonsense as you?

What are you on about?

it's not on cnn or msnbc so don't worry about it , not on fox either so don't come back with that played out line .

Ok?

I still don't know what you're on about.

the eu don't like some policies both countries have implemented so the eu  parliament voted to hold back funds from both countries , so if conservative governments are not on board with liberal policies it's tough no funds for you .

[J70]

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

You do realize most people here don't listen to or hear the same hysterical incoherent right wing nonsense as you?

What are you on about?

it's not on cnn or msnbc so don't worry about it , not on fox either so don't come back with that played out line .

Ok?

I still don't know what you're on about.

the eu don't like some policies both countries have implemented so the eu  parliament voted to hold back funds from both countries , so if conservative governments are not on board with liberal policies it's tough no funds for you .

What policies?

Edit: Never mind.

Found some links:  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60400112

https://apnews.com/article/europe-poland-hungary-european-union-46b53e8a6e8fcae054c07c252c274117

Ok, given that you're apparently upset enough over this to bring it into this thread, why were the EU wrong to penalize those countries? Do you support the laws and policies they were implementing?

[HiMucker]

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

You do realize most people here don't listen to or hear the same hysterical incoherent right wing nonsense as you?

What are you on about?

it's not on cnn or msnbc so don't worry about it , not on fox either so don't come back with that played out line .

Ok?

I still don't know what you're on about.

the eu don't like some policies both countries have implemented so the eu  parliament voted to hold back funds from both countries , so if conservative governments are not on board with liberal policies it's tough no funds for you .

You haven't a clue what your talking about. Both countries leaders were trying to push through major reforms of their judiciary that would near render them powerless from politcal intervention. Its the the first step to dictatorship. Ill give you a clue, there is a country that just invaded another whos leader made similar reforms at the outset of his leadership.

[Rossfan]

That "gmac" has sunk lower into idiocy than even the thickest yank.
What a sad state for an Irish person to end up in.

[armaghniac]

Perhaps tanks are almost useless if you have good anti-tank weapons? Shoot the first one and the rest jam up.

[Gmac]

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

You do realize most people here don't listen to or hear the same hysterical incoherent right wing nonsense as you?

What are you on about?

it's not on cnn or msnbc so don't worry about it , not on fox either so don't come back with that played out line .

Ok?

I still don't know what you're on about.

the eu don't like some policies both countries have implemented so the eu  parliament voted to hold back funds from both countries , so if conservative governments are not on board with liberal policies it's tough no funds for you .

You haven't a clue what your talking about. Both countries leaders were trying to push through major reforms of their judiciary that would near render them powerless from politcal intervention. Its the the first step to dictatorship. Ill give you a clue, there is a country that just invaded another whos leader made similar reforms at the outset of his leadership.

you don't cut off countries from funds they need during a refugee crisis , but like they say never let a crisis go to waste .

[imtommygunn]

Who's they?

[J70]

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

You do realize most people here don't listen to or hear the same hysterical incoherent right wing nonsense as you?

What are you on about?

it's not on cnn or msnbc so don't worry about it , not on fox either so don't come back with that played out line .

Ok?

I still don't know what you're on about.

the eu don't like some policies both countries have implemented so the eu  parliament voted to hold back funds from both countries , so if conservative governments are not on board with liberal policies it's tough no funds for you .

You haven't a clue what your talking about. Both countries leaders were trying to push through major reforms of their judiciary that would near render them powerless from politcal intervention. Its the the first step to dictatorship. Ill give you a clue, there is a country that just invaded another whos leader made similar reforms at the outset of his leadership.

you don't cut off countries from funds they need during a refugee crisis , but like they say never let a crisis go to waste .

This issue long precedes the war and refugee crisis. Even the court ruling confirming they could withhold the funds preceded the invasion by a week. One's got nothing to do with the other.

And I'm pretty sure the EU will not be found wanting when it comes to providing money to deal with the humanitarian issues.

[Gmac]

That "gmac" has sunk lower into idiocy than even the thickest yank.
What a sad state for an Irish person to end up in.

we have different political opinions, I don't need to abuse people over them and call posters stupid and thick , you on the other hand proved how dumb you are by not understanding simple percentages on another thread .

[Wildweasel74]

S they said in Kelly Heroes, a tank (Tiger for that instance, if u know anything about tanks) is geared up for direct conflict on open country. Totally not suited for urban warfare and the advancement on rocket launchers has greatly reduced the effect of Tank warfare unlike WW2.

[whitey]

Look....Trump is and was an absolute clown, but Obama

(1) Completely underestimated Putin (actually laughed at Romney)

(2) Did nothing of consequence when he invaded Crime

(3) Would not give the Ukrainians the arms they were asking for


Was Trump right to hold the Germans to account for not contributing their fair share-absolutely 100%

Was he wrong to attempt to extort Zelensly to investigate the Biden's-Absoluetly 100 %

But some of the clowns on here trying to put all the blame on Trump should take a serious look at the facts