Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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armaghniac

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 09, 2022, 11:13:36 PM
The problem was nobody thought Russia would invade outside of the Americans. If they had loaded the country with extra jetx, anti aircraft missiles, gave the Ukrainians enough to end themselves, Russia I say would not have invaded. Ukraine was not geared up for an invasion, and had not moved its forces into positions for counterattack. The large built up in Belarus should been the tail tell sign and been in place to counter accordingly.

Ukrainian forces have not done so bad. They were hardly caught unawares.
As for the Americans, people in the Kremlin, perhaps those who think Putin a dangerous bollix, are providing information. The Ukrainians are getting some information too.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

The Ukrainians have a very good arms supply from around 20 countries. The Russian Plan A failed so they are falling back on long distance shelling which is inaccurate and more likely to blow up hospitals.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Von der Leyen told Zelenskyy off the cuff that Ukraine could be considered for EU membership.
She is a bit of a loose cannon.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU


Wildweasel74

Paper tiger cause that p***k was looking to cut off money to NATO.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 10, 2022, 12:06:10 PM
Paper tiger cause that p***k was looking to cut off money to NATO.
yep.
he also withheld huge military aid to Ukraine over Biden's son and trying to get a favour off the ukrainian president

J70

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on March 10, 2022, 11:03:07 AM
Never fear, Donald has the solution.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/07/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-jets-chinese

What was it he called himself?

A "stable genius" if I remember correctly.

My seven year old daughter is about as mature in her thinking and analysis as Trump is.

whitey

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 10, 2022, 12:14:50 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 10, 2022, 12:06:10 PM
Paper tiger cause that p***k was looking to cut off money to NATO.
yep.
he also withheld huge military aid to Ukraine over Biden's son and trying to get a favour off the ukrainian president

Just to be clear

He DELAYED the aid.....he ended up sending it!

More importantly......(which is conveniently ignored by those on the left) is that Obama flat out refused to supply the Ukrainians those same weapons when he was in charge

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6371378

"the Obama administration would only commit to non-lethal support, which included equipment such as body armour, night goggles and helmets"

Plenty of blame to go around.

dec

Quote from: J70 on March 10, 2022, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on March 10, 2022, 11:03:07 AM
Never fear, Donald has the solution.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/07/donald-trump-russia-ukraine-jets-chinese

What was it he called himself?

A "stable genius" if I remember correctly.

My seven year old daughter is about as mature in her thinking and analysis as Trump is.

You don't remember correctly, it was in fact a "very stable genius"

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Gmac

The US just approved 13.6billion for Ukraine
Hunter will be on the way over to make sure it goes to the most needy with 10% for the big guy of course.

Gmac

Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

J70

Quote from: Gmac on March 10, 2022, 04:44:03 PM
Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

You do realize most people here don't listen to or hear the same hysterical incoherent right wing nonsense as you?

What are you on about?

johnnycool

Quote from: Gmac on March 10, 2022, 04:44:03 PM
Are the EU sanctioning Poland and Hungary in the middle of a refugee crisis because they won't go along with their crazy liberal policies , diverting their governments time and resources away from the influx of refugees coming to their countries.
One of the reasons Putin speaks about his problems with Ukraine is that if they join nato they no longer are a sovereign country and have little control over their own military decisions, looks like the same goes for the EU, all aboard the crazy train

US preventing Poland from giving their MiG's to Ukraine, so yes you're right.

seafoid

Hungary has been drinking the oul Kool aid recently. Orban's Putin stance is a poor look these days.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU