Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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theskull1

Russian/Ukrainian now UK (Boris detesting) comedian/podcaster Konstantin Kisin has said that refugees would prefer to be close to their homeland and recommended the UK did all they could to support them in those regions... a different perspective worth keeping in mind
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

imtommygunn



Armagh18

In fairness why would any Ukrainian want to come to the UK? Barring they have family there surely they'd be better staying in France.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 09, 2022, 08:39:31 AM
In fairness why would any Ukrainian want to come to the UK? Barring they have family there surely they'd be better staying in France.

Their English is better than their French?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Average Score

Sting vows to never perform for Russian billionaires again after Ukraine invasion.  Lucky them!

Itchy

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 09, 2022, 08:39:31 AM
In fairness why would any Ukrainian want to come to the UK? Barring they have family there surely they'd be better staying in France.

I often ask the same as to why anyone would want to live in Armagh

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I am sure you are very knowledgeable of the place and it's residents.

Eire90

is the embassy guy not some sort of far  right winger thats angry at the russians causing a refugee crises

Itchy

Quote from: Eire90 on March 09, 2022, 01:39:42 PM
is the embassy guy not some sort of far  right winger thats angry at the russians causing a refugee crises

I am not sure what his story is, he was involved (along with a lot of FF and FG types) in Ballinamore to protest against a direct provision centre. The local SF TD Martin Kenny has his car burnt out by those loons as it sat in front of his house at night with his family inside. How central this fella was in that protest I dont know.

general_lee


theskull1

A level headed discussion on the Ukraine crisis worth listening to here

War in Ukraine: Causes and Effects | Robert Wright & Katrina vanden Heuvel | The Wright Show

https://youtu.be/LzEdSemhD8o

01:01 Understanding the thought process that led Putin to invade Ukraine
13:24 Could diplomacy have prevented the invasion? 
20:30 Imagining possible endings of the war – and what comes after
27:39 Reviewing the events that drove the West and Putin's Russia apart
36:48 How Moscow viewed the 2014 Maidan Revolution in Ukraine
49:13 Could a palace coup in Moscow reset US-Russia relations?
58:13 Bob and Katrina worry that the planet can't afford a second cold war

Robert Wright (Bloggingheads.tv, The Evolution of God, Nonzero, Why Buddhism Is True) and Katrina vanden Heuvel (The Nation). Recorded March 08, 2022.
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/81630924-deb4-4ee8-abed-006a90972bb0


Almost 2.2mn people have fled the fighting in Ukraine, with neighbouring Poland taking the lion's share of refugees.
The UN refugee agency's latest figures showed that, of the 2.16mn total, 1.3mn Ukrainians have headed towards Poland while Hungary has received 203,000 people. Slovakia counted 153,000 across its border, with Romania taking in 35,000 and Moldova 83,000.


seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/717c4244-0dda-4564-8380-6cb1352afd68

Rating agency Fitch downgraded Russia by six notches on Tuesday, saying both domestic measures and foreign sanctions made a bond default "imminent".

The UK Ministry of Defence said on Wednesday that the Russian military had confirmed the use of a thermobaric weapon in Ukraine. The so-called TOS-1A system creates "incendiary and blast effects" that have a "devastating impact", the MoD added

Western officials said fighting north-west of Kyiv was continuing, but Russian forces had so far failed to make any significant breakthroughs as they continue to besiege the cities of Kharkiv, Chernihiv, Sumy and Mariupol.

Wildweasel74

The problem was nobody thought Russia would invade outside of the Americans. If they had loaded the country with extra jetx, anti aircraft missiles, gave the Ukrainians enough to end themselves, Russia I say would not have invaded. Ukraine was not geared up for an invasion, and had not moved its forces into positions for counterattack. The large built up in Belarus should been the tail tell sign and been in place to counter accordingly.