Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[imtommygunn]

Yeah it's wipeout time here tbh. There's no turning back until it's game over.

[north_antrim_hound]

Ukraine need help in terms of military assistance but the implications are scary. At best a proxy war right in the centre of Europe and worst WW3. Watched Domnic Rabb on last night giving the tories a slap on the back for reducing the time for Russian dirty money to be moved to 6 months. So far out of 1.5 million refugees Britain has granted visas for 50 people. The British government really have let Ukraine down.

[Dire Ear]

Ukraine need help in terms of military assistance but the implications are scary. At best a proxy war right in the centre of Europe and worst WW3. Watched Domnic Rabb on last night giving the tories a slap on the back for reducing the time for Russian dirty money to be moved to 6 months. So far out of 1.5 million refugees Britain has granted visas for 50 people. The British government really have let Ukraine down.

Tories are the complete money lovin scumbags

[Armamike]

Admitting 50 refugees to date.  Pathetic.

[imtommygunn]

Putin is basically trolling everyone. He is opening corridors so ukrainians can escape to russia or belarus. He is taking the piss out of everyone.

Also Russia has announced an approved list of those who have been seen to help Ukraine. The whole of the EU, aka Ireland, and the Uk are on the list. A significant proportion of the "developed" world is on it too.

[mouview]

FSB (formerly KGB) 'sources'  say war has to be won by June or Russia will collapse. Also, FSB not even kept in the loop of all developments but expect to be blamed if and when analysis of the situation goes wrong.

[johnnycool]

FSB (formerly KGB) 'sources'  say war has to be won by June or Russia will collapse. Also, FSB not even kept in the loop of all developments but expect to be blamed if and when analysis of the situation goes wrong.

not sure what winning the war looks like, let alone in June.

There'll guerrilla attacks for years to come irrespective of what Russia has in plan for Ukraine. They'll still need the army in situ to maintain a proxy government unless they can get a few Ukrainian Generals to stage a coup, not likely.

[imtommygunn]

Surely the takeover of the main cities (in particular Kiev) would be seen as winning?

The reckoning is it's costing Russia 2 billion USD a day and with the seizing of so many assets etc they will run out of money in that kind of timeframe. (I actually read sooner).

Unfortunately I expect the Russians to have broken them before that 

[johnnycool]

Surely the takeover of the main cities (in particular Kiev) would be seen as winning?

The reckoning is it's costing Russia 2 billion USD a day and with the seizing of so many assets etc they will run out of money in that kind of timeframe. (I actually read sooner).

Unfortunately I expect the Russians to have broken them before that 

Yeah, but takeover will be much more than raising the Russian flag over the local cityhall and then trotting off back to Russia. It will mean the army being kept in place there at whatever $2B a day and the sanctions won't be lifted either.

IMO he'll claim victory, then negotiate with the Ukrainians to hold some regions to the East and a pathway to Crimea and more access to the Black sea.

[Average Score]

https://www.ft.com/content/67c41711-027e-4bc3-b94a-cf220d1e8243

Ukraine called off an attempt to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of Mariupol after accusing Russia of violating a ceasefire and attacking the escape route for hundreds of thousands of beleaguered civilians. The struggle to enforce the ceasefire further worsened conditions in the city, which has borne the brunt of Russia's offensive in Ukraine. Strategically located on the Sea of Azov, it is completely encircled by Russian forces and has endured near-constant shelling that has reduced many residential areas to ruins.

Evil bastards at it again, it's shocking some major global brands still standing by Russia.  Those poor people, what they must be going through is unimaginable.

[HiMucker]

Some great stuff on twitter from logistics anoraks and the like. Like most people Id have thought the Russian army was going to steam roll them. The more I read the more I think a Russian military collapse is imminent. They have made an absolute balls out of the whole thing.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Some great stuff on twitter from logistics anoraks and the like. Like most people Id have thought the Russian army was going to steam roll them. The more I read the more I think a Russian military collapse is imminent. They have made an absolute balls out of the whole thing.

Wish you were right Mucker and ive read a bit meself. Unfortunately i can see them rumbling on for a while yet (based on nothing)

[PadraicHenryPearse]

https://www.ft.com/content/67c41711-027e-4bc3-b94a-cf220d1e8243

Ukraine called off an attempt to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of Mariupol after accusing Russia of violating a ceasefire and attacking the escape route for hundreds of thousands of beleaguered civilians. The struggle to enforce the ceasefire further worsened conditions in the city, which has borne the brunt of Russia's offensive in Ukraine. Strategically located on the Sea of Azov, it is completely encircled by Russian forces and has endured near-constant shelling that has reduced many residential areas to ruins.

Evil bastards at it again, it's shocking some major global brands still standing by Russia.  Those poor people, what they must be going through is unimaginable.

If only it was unimaginable... but ask a Palestinain, an Iraqi, a Syrian, an Afgani etc. it is very real for way too many people for way too long. Some of whom, do/did not have the option to flee anywhere..

[Milltown Row2]

https://www.ft.com/content/67c41711-027e-4bc3-b94a-cf220d1e8243

Ukraine called off an attempt to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of Mariupol after accusing Russia of violating a ceasefire and attacking the escape route for hundreds of thousands of beleaguered civilians. The struggle to enforce the ceasefire further worsened conditions in the city, which has borne the brunt of Russia's offensive in Ukraine. Strategically located on the Sea of Azov, it is completely encircled by Russian forces and has endured near-constant shelling that has reduced many residential areas to ruins.

Evil bastards at it again, it's shocking some major global brands still standing by Russia.  Those poor people, what they must be going through is unimaginable.

If only it was unimaginable... but ask a Palestinain, an Iraqi, a Syrian, an Afgani etc. it is very real for way too many people for way too long.

You've left out the African countries also, and not one fcuk given

[PadraicHenryPearse]

https://www.ft.com/content/67c41711-027e-4bc3-b94a-cf220d1e8243

Ukraine called off an attempt to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of Mariupol after accusing Russia of violating a ceasefire and attacking the escape route for hundreds of thousands of beleaguered civilians. The struggle to enforce the ceasefire further worsened conditions in the city, which has borne the brunt of Russia's offensive in Ukraine. Strategically located on the Sea of Azov, it is completely encircled by Russian forces and has endured near-constant shelling that has reduced many residential areas to ruins.

Evil bastards at it again, it's shocking some major global brands still standing by Russia.  Those poor people, what they must be going through is unimaginable.

If only it was unimaginable... but ask a Palestinain, an Iraqi, a Syrian, an Afgani etc. it is very real for way too many people for way too long.

You've left out the African countries also, and not one fcuk given

sadly, there are too many to mention so I added etc. I didn't mention Yemen either