Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

Started by Main Street, February 12, 2022, 09:38:45 PM

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RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: J70 on March 04, 2022, 07:51:53 PM
Personally, I found Graham to be an odious character for his behaviour with Trump (his old pal John McCain must be turning in his grave at his carry on), but I have to say that, under the circumstances, it (calling for them to take out Putin) is not the worst thing a politician has come out with.

Yeah... I found myself thinking "If I'm broadly in agreement with Lindsey Graham and others are ridiculing him, have I went wrong somewhere?"
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Gmac

Quote from: imtommygunn on March 04, 2022, 11:55:43 AM
They're already sending tanks etc so what's the difference.
not sure flooding the place with weapons at this late stage is a great idea, look what happened in Afghanistan.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Gmac on March 05, 2022, 02:32:35 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on March 04, 2022, 11:55:43 AM
They're already sending tanks etc so what's the difference.
not sure flooding the place with weapons at this late stage is a great idea, look what happened in Afghanistan.

WTF?
I think you've got your analogy back to front there.

That's like saying "no point the Taliban flooding the place with weapons".
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Hound


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Surprise Surprise Ukrainian authorities say Russia is not observing a temporary ceasefire that was agreed in two cities - c***ts done the same in Syria, hard to believe anyone could be so evil.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/67c41711-027e-4bc3-b94a-cf220d1e8243

Ukraine called off an attempt to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of Mariupol after accusing Russia of violating a ceasefire and attacking the escape route for hundreds of thousands of beleaguered civilians. The struggle to enforce the ceasefire further worsened conditions in the city, which has borne the brunt of Russia's offensive in Ukraine. Strategically located on the Sea of Azov, it is completely encircled by Russian forces and has endured near-constant shelling that has reduced many residential areas to ruins.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/e315f100-1de9-42c4-a5a3-8a1245664641
The US secretary of state warned pressure on Russia would intensify. "Not only is it unprecedented, not only is it producing very, very concrete results in Russia, but that pressure too will not only continue — it will grow until this war . . . is brought to an end," Blinken said.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

north_antrim_hound

Quote from: seafoid on March 05, 2022, 04:55:29 PM
https://www.ft.com/content/67c41711-027e-4bc3-b94a-cf220d1e8243

Ukraine called off an attempt to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of Mariupol after accusing Russia of violating a ceasefire and attacking the escape route for hundreds of thousands of beleaguered civilians. The struggle to enforce the ceasefire further worsened conditions in the city, which has borne the brunt of Russia's offensive in Ukraine. Strategically located on the Sea of Azov, it is completely encircled by Russian forces and has endured near-constant shelling that has reduced many residential areas to ruins.

I'd say at this stage Putin looks intent on leaving every city except Kyiv flattened to the ground with inhabitants beneath the rubble just like he did in Aleppo.
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armaghniac

Quote from: north_antrim_hound on March 05, 2022, 10:43:10 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 05, 2022, 04:55:29 PM
https://www.ft.com/content/67c41711-027e-4bc3-b94a-cf220d1e8243

Ukraine called off an attempt to evacuate civilians from the besieged city of Mariupol after accusing Russia of violating a ceasefire and attacking the escape route for hundreds of thousands of beleaguered civilians. The struggle to enforce the ceasefire further worsened conditions in the city, which has borne the brunt of Russia's offensive in Ukraine. Strategically located on the Sea of Azov, it is completely encircled by Russian forces and has endured near-constant shelling that has reduced many residential areas to ruins.

I'd say at this stage Putin looks intent on leaving every city except Kyiv flattened to the ground with inhabitants beneath the rubble just like he did in Aleppo.

He might, but he might capture some of the smaller ones as the Ukrainians don't pitch their battle there e.g. Kherson, whereas he'll need all his men to capture Kyiv.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Wildweasel74

Kharkiv got flattened to the ground previous in the 4 great battles for the city in ww2. Russian line of NATO expansion doesn't wash. The old nxt door neighbour was polish. Her Husband had served in the soviet army, Poland bck then hadn't a seperate army. It was all ussr. They were already worried about Russia invading again. All the small baltic states wanted NATO membership for protection from its bigger neighbour with history for invading. These smaller countries didn't add anything to the strong arm of NATO, USA, UK, France and to an extend Germany. Poland and the rest knew they needed western help to try kept the local bully boy of their patch.

Sportacus

Another week gone by.  The Russians have bit off more than they can chew. They'll not break the spirit of the Ukrainians.  And every NATO country should feel assured for the future given that the Russian army can't even knock out the army of a single state. They seem to have made a complete balls of it.  That 40 mile convoy is a sitting duck. I'm not saying it won't get very ugly, but this is definitely not Putin Plan A.

seafoid

https://www.ft.com/content/2f1f0944-ceab-4042-93bd-63c2d863a75f

The US is working with Warsaw on a deal to provide Ukraine with Polish fighter jets as Kyiv ratchets up the pressure on the west to boost its air force capabilities so it can repel Russian attacks.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

armaghniac

There is some discussion in the media that the Russians have now deployed 95% of the forces deployed. They had planned on a quick campaign and they only have supplies fit that lot for about 10 days, with new supplies arriving less quickly than they are being used They haven't really cranked up production of military stuff and, when it is used up then it us not being replaced. You could see a stalemate developing where the Russians cannot push on.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

JPGJOHNNYG

Quote from: armaghniac on March 07, 2022, 08:46:19 AM
There is some discussion in the media that the Russians have now deployed 95% of the forces deployed. They had planned on a quick campaign and they only have supplies fit that lot for about 10 days, with new supplies arriving less quickly than they are being used They haven't really cranked up production of military stuff and, when it is used up then it us not being replaced. You could see a stalemate developing where the Russians cannot push on.

As much of a mess as it has been for Russia they might be happy enough to take all of the black sea coast from Ukraine

armaghniac

The Russians would be very happy to take the coast to Crimea anyway. But they want to overthrow the government also.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B