Russia invades Ukraine Feb 2022

[Itchy]

False flag seriously, people read to much into conspiracy theories these days. Obvious Russian missile.

MacKenna says it was the Ukranians so clearly you're wrong...

Some people really want an escalation.

Yes and a lot of them are Irish twitter gobshites. They should be first in the line for sign up WW3.

[grounded]

LIVE Russia missiles hit Poland LIVE: NATO fears after rockets land in country killing two
Two Russian rockets have landed in a village in eastern Poland leaving two people dead, as the country's top politicians called an emergency meeting over the incident

Latvian Deputy Prime Minister Artis Pabriks said on Twitter that Russia "fired missiles which target not only Ukrainian civilians but also landed on NATO territory in Poland."

The Polish Foreign Ministry said a Russian produced rocket had hit a grain drying facility in the farm, and confirmed they had since summoned the Russian ambassador

Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Reinsalu said, according to BNS newswire: "We are discussing with our allies how to respond to what happened jointly and decisively.

The Associated Press earlier cited a senior US intelligence official as saying the blast was due to Russian missiles crossing into Poland

The Associated Press have 3 anonymous sources within US intelligence that are saying it was a Ukranian missile.

Where are you getting this article from?

There was multiple sources. Here is one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nz.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/nations-scramble-as-poland-hit-by-russian-missiles-213853900.html

My point being, immediate blame apportioned to Russia by Latvian prime minister, Polish foreign minister and a whole host of other sources before investigation took place.

Look at the headline in CNN hours after most facts have been established.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/15/europe/poland-missile-rocket-nato-przewodow-ukraine-intl/index.html

The bigger picture is though, that at some stage it is almost inevitable that there will be a Nato/Russian military incident in this area.

[Armagh18]

LIVE Russia missiles hit Poland LIVE: NATO fears after rockets land in country killing two
Two Russian rockets have landed in a village in eastern Poland leaving two people dead, as the country's top politicians called an emergency meeting over the incident

Latvian Deputy Prime Minister Artis Pabriks said on Twitter that Russia "fired missiles which target not only Ukrainian civilians but also landed on NATO territory in Poland."

The Polish Foreign Ministry said a Russian produced rocket had hit a grain drying facility in the farm, and confirmed they had since summoned the Russian ambassador

Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Reinsalu said, according to BNS newswire: "We are discussing with our allies how to respond to what happened jointly and decisively.

The Associated Press earlier cited a senior US intelligence official as saying the blast was due to Russian missiles crossing into Poland

The Associated Press have 3 anonymous sources within US intelligence that are saying it was a Ukranian missile.

Where are you getting this article from?

There was multiple sources. Here is one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nz.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/nations-scramble-as-poland-hit-by-russian-missiles-213853900.html

My point being, immediate blame apportioned to Russia by Latvian prime minister, Polish foreign minister and a whole host of other sources before investigation took place.

Look at the headline in CNN hours after most facts have been established.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/11/15/europe/poland-missile-rocket-nato-przewodow-ukraine-intl/index.html

The bigger picture is though, that at some stage it is almost inevitable that there will be a Nato/Russian military incident in this area.

Calm heads need to prevail when it does happen.

[RedHand88]

Was in the shop there. The papers today are mental. Every single front page is blaming Russia. What a monumental c**k up.

Is there any evidence it was a Russian attack? What's the conflicting evidence?

[armaghniac]

Was in the shop there. The papers today are mental. Every single front page is blaming Russia. What a monumental c**k up.

Is there any evidence it was a Russian attack? What's the conflicting evidence?

Russia is to blame either way. The Ukraine would not be firing missiles to shoot down Russian missiles if the Russians were not firing them at them.
If a thief breaks in next door and you are woken up by the alarm, then it is fault of the thief.

[RedHand88]

Was in the shop there. The papers today are mental. Every single front page is blaming Russia. What a monumental c**k up.

Is there any evidence it was a Russian attack? What's the conflicting evidence?

Russia is to blame either way. The Ukraine would not be firing missiles to shoot down Russian missiles if the Russians were not firing them at them.
If a thief breaks in next door and you are woken up by the alarm, then it is fault of the thief.

When I say they are blaming Russia, the headlines are "Russian missiles kill 2 in Poland" and the like. Not that it was a Ukrainian missile defending from Russian strikes. The news stories are that Russia has attacked NATO soil, a line that seemed unthinkable to cross.
Completely trigger happy stuff by media organisations who only care about catching eyeballs, to hell if WW3 kicks off in the process.

These headlines have led to a Twitter mob calling for retaliatory NATO strikes onto Moscow for something they didn't do.

It's dangerous stuff.

[Jeepers Creepers]

All backtracking now to say they it was Ukraine.

[armaghniac]

It could have been a S-300 anti aircraft missile or the like, and so Russian made.

[RedHand88]

It could have been a S-300 anti aircraft missile or the like, and so Russian made.

Irrelevant who made it. If it was supplied by the west do we blame them?
What matters is who fired it and from where.

[armaghniac]

There is nothing particularly remarkable here. Russia fired a rake of missiles, a missile shows up in Poland which appears to be Russian made. Russia was an initial suspect here for good reasons, they investigated it and established the truth within 24 hours.
As I said, Russia is the cause of it in any case.

[burdizzo]

There is nothing particularly remarkable here. Russia fired a rake of missiles, a missile shows up in Poland which appears to be Russian made. Russia was an initial suspect here for good reasons, they investigated it and established the truth within 24 hours.
As I said, Russia is the cause of it in any case.

So, what - NATO attack Russia anyway? It's like Russia saying, "oh, NATO supplies all these weapons, training, and advice to Ukraine, let's attack NATO".

[grounded]

There is nothing particularly remarkable here. Russia fired a rake of missiles, a missile shows up in Poland which appears to be Russian made. Russia was an initial suspect here for good reasons, they investigated it and established the truth within 24 hours.
As I said, Russia is the cause of it in any case.

Undoubtedly Russia is main instigator, but the instant blame of Russia without the full facts by the Latvian Prime minister and Polish foreign minister is extremely worrying from a NATO perspective.

The main point though is, the longer this conflict goes on increases the chances of a NATO/Russian military incident.  It doesn't matter if it's an accident/deliberate the outcome will be the same.

[Armagh18]

There is nothing particularly remarkable here. Russia fired a rake of missiles, a missile shows up in Poland which appears to be Russian made. Russia was an initial suspect here for good reasons, they investigated it and established the truth within 24 hours.
As I said, Russia is the cause of it in any case.

So, what - NATO attack Russia anyway? It's like Russia saying, "oh, NATO supplies all these weapons, training, and advice to Ukraine, let's attack NATO".

From a Russian POV NATO have probably done more than enough to deserve to be attacked, won't happen though for obvious reasons.

[RedHand88]

It's like the time Ian Óg was on Nolan blaming the dissidents for a cops car on fire on the Bangor Road. I remember Twitter that day too.

Turned out it was an engine problem.

[Eire90]

The papers were going on like russia started a bombling blitz on poland with headlines like russian  missiiles poland