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Surely Damien McErlaine must be considered to be one of the most successful managers in Derry county football. The missing link for some of these players to make the grade to senior has to be a successful u20 team which we havenotbeengoodat in thepast. Hopefully he can now be the man to make that happen. Pity he was not a success at senior but maybe that was down to availability of players at that time.

I think he is a good link but in regards to one of the most successful I think until he's done it at senior level he probably won't get the credit he is due.

Glen won 4 Ulster Minor titles and its a serious achievement but Malachy O'Rourke is still recognised as being the man who got them to top table. Don't necessarily agree but its how its portrayed.

Mc Kinless
Baker   Rogers  Bradley
Doherty  Mc Evoy   Mc Grogan
      Glass  Higgins
Cassidy   Mc Faul  Doherty
Toner  Mc Guigan Murray

Loughlin not starting but early 2nd half sub, Mc Gurk and Caolan Devlin to follow half way through second half. No faith lads, Donegal are no world beaters.

When you see a 15 like that, you think there's a chance—but you know three will likely be injured, we'll concede a disastrous goal, pick up a red card, or collapse in the last 10 minutes. At this point, you almost expect it. It's the complete opposite of two years ago, when you could count on a flawless performance every time.

I'm forever a realistic optimist and I'll hang my hat on we aren't far away.
Although Paddy Power have shifted us from 12/1 to 22/1 for All Ireland. 15/2 for Ulster worth a sneaky 20

      Mc Kinless
Baker   Rogers  Bradley
Doherty  Mc Evoy   Mc Grogan
      Glass  Higgins
Cassidy   Mc Faul  Doherty
Toner  Mc Guigan Murray

Loughlin not starting but early 2nd half sub, Mc Gurk and Caolan Devlin to follow half way through second half. No faith lads, Donegal are no world beaters.

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Feck me the injuries keep on coming.

You boys are a laugh majority say Tohill not up to it and as soon as he's injured it's a big deal.

No one on the board picks the Derry team so our opinion is just that. P Tally has consistently picked Tohill as a starter and has now lost him as an option. The comment was factual that the injuries keep coming no one has yet to make it into a big deal. Any injury to any player in any county which causes them to miss a championship match or matches is surely something that can be commented on.

Fair enough highlighting it, he appears to be well short of what is needed for Derry to compete and that has been highlighted by a number of supporters on here, yet when he is injured it comes across as a big loss?

You're reading one person's opinion and taking it as everyone's. In other words, you're a fool

So the general opinion would be that Tohill has had a good league and will be a significant loss?

I don't mean to cause offence to the lad or Derry supporters(Who seem quite touchy at the moment) but he hasn't shown much in his Derry career to date to show that he would be a loss against a very strong Donegal outfit in a few weeks against McGonagle, McFadden, Thompson, Murphy etc. 

Disappointing remarks quit yo jibbajabba. 

The question is who replaces him?. I don't believe he's a main player but I do think he does a job. The issue is there is nobody else.

Just looking at the table. Relegated Derry had more in the 'points for' column than League leaders Mayo. And outside of Kerry they were within 8pts of every other team in the league in terms of scores.

Defensively we're 30-50pts off everyone else in the league. Conceding 5 goals against Kerry, 4 against Armagh and 3 against Dublin really didn't help that cause.

Plus I think that any Derry supporter in the Athletic Grounds yesterday should be given free entry to every championship this year

I'll take that, it was a lonely battle that Mc Guigan done nothing wrong and Armagh have gone soft

Sure I had to make my own enjoyment.

Derry won't be far away against Donegal, Alot of gloating and show boating from Armagh and as a fan nevermind a player that hurts. Campbell, Turbitt, Mc Cabe screaming for more goals, that stuff always comes back around.

Funny u picked out McCarron, not that he was great. But  some of our senior are lucky the bench is so light as they wouldn't get starting, and are playing like they know there nobody to replace them. Glass the only player they have past 2 games. He's had a good league outside of the Dublin game. How do u go from a well oiled machine 2yrs ago to this. Irish Star said during the week Derry went into total meltdown. Goes to show the influence managers have on teams. Leaking goals like confetti. Even when Derry set up in defence, very few players are picking up any men. I thought we could go no lower than the Dublin game.was wrong, Tally totalled out of his depth. Derry county board gonna take most of the blame, especially the process and delays about appointing a manager.

Not funny at all, I agree with our more senior players not leading either but at least we know they are capable of playing at the level required.
Mc Evoy, CD (at times), Ethan, Paul Cass, Baker Shane are miles off what we know they can do. 

I think Tohill has done a job and I thought done rightly today and seems to be improving so I would struggle with him another while, albeit I think we have no choice. Glass and Toner had good leagues but don't think Niall Toner is a CHF.

I am going over well trodden ground here and after seeing the list of lads not togged out in a previous post I'm raising it again. Why is are we insisting on struggling on with Mc Carron? Christ lads the lad is completely lost. I'm fully aware I'll be jumped on as making it an individual attack but it needs called out.
You can see other players on the pitch avoiding the clear pass to him in favour of someone else. Not sure what position he was today but spend a lot time around midfield and in second have was going for kickouts close to Derry 20 yard line when we were down to 14 men. Devlin got his first start and scored 0-3,Mc Gurk last week done rightly so new men are making an impact in spells.
Have sympathy for Mc Kinless I do think he looked nervous, defence has to be anticipating a ball coming off the post and they weren't on 3 separate occasions. We missed about 1-5 in first have and then sending off. Sure it was an up hill battle before we even arrived nevermind that.

McCarron was in the Sigerson team of the year. He must have something about him. It looks to me a little that he doesn't fully believe in himself at county level. I agree though he shouldn't be near starting in Championship on current form.

We might be in a bit of a transition phase ATM. Loads of injuries and to key men at that. New rules that don't suit us and a manager who came in very late. I don't think picking on individuals is the way to go if I am honest.

He's not good enough and shouldn't be there, the games played on front of our eyes. Say what you see.

This isn't underage sport and there's no room for passengers.

What about Tohill? If Rodgers is back surely has to be him and Glass in midfield.

Rogers needs to go to Full back, Mc Evoy struggling against real clinical forwards. Let him go to CHB and push forward. Rogers steadys everything around him in there.

I am going over well trodden ground here and after seeing the list of lads not togged out in a previous post I'm raising it again. Why is are we insisting on struggling on with Mc Carron? Christ lads the lad is completely lost. I'm fully aware I'll be jumped on as making it an individual attack but it needs called out.
You can see other players on the pitch avoiding the clear pass to him in favour of someone else. Not sure what position he was today but spend a lot time around midfield and in second have was going for kickouts close to Derry 20 yard line when we were down to 14 men. Devlin got his first start and scored 0-3,Mc Gurk last week done rightly so new men are making an impact in spells.
Have sympathy for Mc Kinless I do think he looked nervous, defence has to be anticipating a ball coming off the post and they weren't on 3 separate occasions. We missed about 1-5 in first have and then sending off. Sure it was an up hill battle before we even arrived nevermind that.

He's too small, we already a overload of small players. He does stand out at Hurling though.

OMG.

There we have it. A player who's just been voted one the top 15 club hurlers in Ireland...and you say he's too small.

What a stupid comment.

He plays football the same way he plays hurling. 

Seen him play at least 7 games of senior football. A good player who will hopefully have big future. Absolutely no questions about his commitment to GAA in both codes but regarding County Football just don't think he's ready yet.

But I also hope he's not rushed in, I think Lachlan Murray slightly suffered from being pushed in senior team a little early and we are only starting to see what he's capable of now.
Fionn I've no doubt will be key player for u20s so he's moving in the right direction along with good few others.

[a bit of an old wild streak in him that helps]

Ben McKinless called up. He will be the championship keeper

Good choice, he's prone to the odd mistake but he's a class keeper overall. We probably need a proper gk backup also. Mcnicholl has tried his best but he's not really a gk.

Really good goalkeeper, I'd say happier now that he won't be expected to go up the pitch. Good kickouts with a bit of an old wild streak in him that helps.

What do you mean by this?

Puts himself about when he's on the pitch and not afraid to show some physicality when ball lands in around his box.

Ben McKinless called up. He will be the championship keeper

Good choice, he's prone to the odd mistake but he's a class keeper overall. We probably need a proper gk backup also. Mcnicholl has tried his best but he's not really a gk.

Really good goalkeeper, I'd say happier now that he won't be expected to go up the pitch. Good kickouts with a bit of an old wild streak in him that helps.

Worst case scenario is Donegal beat Derry, they then have about 4/5 weeks off, move into a group stage where they have to win 1 game to get to AL knock out stage and gain some momentum. Realistically this team may not need to his top form for about about 11 weeks yet. Far too panicky up here thinking we should be beating everyone every week.

Allow for fact that one of Armagh, Tyrone, Kerry and Mayo could be relegated with us.

Here's the biggest problem which was obvious at the game. On our kickout, Mayo man mark our players. On Mayos kick out Derry have this zonal marking shit which simply doesnt f**king work. Went the whole game didn't change it. Some players were having a mare but seen out the game. That's a serious management issue. With the goalkeeping rule now changed we need a back up keeper which is a actually keeper.

100% correct, the lads not a goalie doesn't look comfortable out there and struggles with kickouts.

Theres defenders on that Derry team think standing staring into a forwards face with their back to the ball is man marking.
Continuously carrying the ball into stupid position, giving a fist pass to a man who man has two men around him. This attitude of it's not my man so its someone else's problem is very very clear to be seen.

We get half back/midfield and we are waiting on someone on the overlap when Mc Guigan and Loughlin have about 3 runs made and not got the ball.

As always massive input

Here's the biggest problem which was obvious at the game. On our kickout, Mayo man mark our players. On Mayos kick out Derry have this zonal marking shit which simply doesnt f**king work. Went the whole game didn't change it. Some players were having a mare but seen out the game. That's a serious management issue. With the goalkeeping rule now changed we need a back up keeper which is a actually keeper.

100% correct, the lads not a goalie doesn't look comfortable out there and struggles with kickouts.

Theres defenders on that Derry team think standing staring into a forwards face with their back to the ball is man marking.
Continuously carrying the ball into stupid position, giving a fist pass to a man who man has two men around him. This attitude of it's not my man so its someone else's problem is very very clear to be seen.

We get half back/midfield and we are waiting on someone on the overlap when Mc Guigan and Loughlin have about 3 runs made and not got the ball.