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#1
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 14, 2023, 07:12:41 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on November 14, 2023, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PMLeague football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.

Tyrone system would work well. Let the league run on longer. Have a 1A and 1B with 8 teams each with 2 way league of 14 games ranging from March to end of July even August then have a knockout championship. All matches are meaningful. Even if clubs have to do without county men for max 4 league games. 1 up and 1 down. New proposals are ludicrous but hardly surprising...

What are the proposals?

No promotion or relegation in the league for the next 3 years. Can only get promoted or relegated through championship. Round robin championship and bottom team in the 4 groups go into a relegation round robin and either one or two relegated into intermediate and div 2. Similar structure in Intermediate/Div2 and Junior/Div3.

Apparently it has a lot of backing.

Waste of time the league then? Literally nothing to play for in div 2 and 3, exactly what the county needs less competitive football
#2
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
November 14, 2023, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: 1884 on November 14, 2023, 05:26:20 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on November 14, 2023, 01:32:07 PMLeague football has been gloried friendlies this past few years. There are a few teams going full pelt at it and then there are others who are literally playing about 3 players who will start on their championship team. Not sure what the answer is.

Tyrone system would work well. Let the league run on longer. Have a 1A and 1B with 8 teams each with 2 way league of 14 games ranging from March to end of July even August then have a knockout championship. All matches are meaningful. Even if clubs have to do without county men for max 4 league games. 1 up and 1 down. New proposals are ludicrous but hardly surprising...

What are the proposals?
#3
Quote from: smort on May 22, 2023, 03:33:00 PM
Some new rules bring trialled...

https://www.gaa.ie/football/news/gaa-to-trial-experimental-kick-out-and-free-kick-rules/

Terrible ideas, the rule of not being able to go back to the keeper worked well. When teams are chasing games they push up on kicks and the keeper has to go long, so there is no need for a rule to make a team lump a ball if the opposition is happy enough to concede the kick out
#4
Also, the physio coming on after every free is getting really boring. I know teams want to slow the game down but it is so bad, embarrassing. It's every team does it though
#5
Gough is a brutal brutal referee, no idea where the myth that he's the best in the country comes from 
#6
Quote from: Mourne Red on May 14, 2023, 04:00:37 PM
Bit of a jersey clash this

Really hard to see on the tv esp with so many players in small space. How ulster Gaa let this happen is stupid
#7
Quote from: smelmoth on May 11, 2023, 09:34:33 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 11, 2023, 08:15:40 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2023, 07:44:02 PM
Quote from: p3427977 on May 11, 2023, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2023, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 11, 2023, 07:14:21 PM
So they investigated and found nothing?

Is that what it says?

Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 11, 2023, 07:09:49 PM
Gallsman wants Gallagher hung, drawn, and quartered,no winners in this sorry episode for Doire Gaa,Gallagher,or his family, enough said

At no point have I said anything of the sort.
Isn't that normal process though? Doesn't everything have to go through the PPS? What would the PSNI said differently?

The cops can investigate and find nothing. They'll only forward a file to the DPP if they think there's something there. The decision to prosecute or not is the DPP's.

Otherwise, using the example from earlier, any gobshite can abuse anyone of anything and a file would be sent to the prosecutor.

That's 100% wrong. The police will send the file to the PPS regardless, in fact, they have no real power. The police in this case would provide the file with a recommendation. For prosecution or no prosecution. Even in the case of police recommending no prosecution the PPS can still decide to go through with it.

I think it is you that is 100% incorrect, certainly in respect of any issue in NI. Police only send the file if there is evidence. Possibly this is not how it works in the South.

A statement is evidence... they will also give a recommendation it's up to the PPS what they do with that. Plenty of cases have been brought where the only evidence is a statement from a witness
#8
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2023, 07:44:02 PM
Quote from: p3427977 on May 11, 2023, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2023, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 11, 2023, 07:14:21 PM
So they investigated and found nothing?

Is that what it says?

Quote from: uimhr ocht on May 11, 2023, 07:09:49 PM
Gallsman wants Gallagher hung, drawn, and quartered,no winners in this sorry episode for Doire Gaa,Gallagher,or his family, enough said

At no point have I said anything of the sort.
Isn't that normal process though? Doesn't everything have to go through the PPS? What would the PSNI said differently?

The cops can investigate and find nothing. They'll only forward a file to the DPP if they think there's something there. The decision to prosecute or not is the DPP's.

Otherwise, using the example from earlier, any gobshite can abuse anyone of anything and a file would be sent to the prosecutor.

That's 100% wrong. The police will send the file to the PPS regardless, in fact, they have no real power. The police in this case would provide the file with a recommendation. For prosecution or no prosecution. Even in the case of police recommending no prosecution the PPS can still decide to go through with it.
#9
Quote from: J70 on May 11, 2023, 05:48:27 PM
Quote from: themac_23 on May 11, 2023, 05:41:07 PM
Quote from: J70 on May 11, 2023, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2023, 02:29:10 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2023, 02:08:43 PM
Yes but  That doesn't  mean these allegations are  true.

See now you're moving the goalposts. Nobody on this thread, as far as I can see, has said that the allegations are true or that Gallagher is guilty of anything.

Your point was to ask if you could just make up shit to get someone discredited and removed from their position. The counter to that is that serious allegations from someone close (for example, a wife) have to be taken more seriously than those of any old twat on the internet. Do you not see the difference?

I do see the  difference. But  my point was that trial  by FB sets  a dangerous precedence. 

I didn't really want to  go into this  case ,  but  it  seems odd  that he has custody of  kids , and surely that involved courts/authorities, so  why wasn't  these allegations  made during that process ?

Like I say ,  I really didn't want to  go into this , as it's clearly a delicate issue.  So that's  all I'll say on it.

Come on, are you really that naïve?

Her with an alcohol problem and possibly under threats of additional violence and being cut off completely from her children? You never heard of a similar scenario where a woman was afraid to go public?

If there were domestic abuse allegations with any foundation there is no way gateway/ social services would have given him custody. Regardless of whether the mother of a child has an alcohol problem. It's not a case of they have to go with one of the parents, if there are doubts over both parents the kids would go to a family member or into care. Not a chance a social worker would leave themselves open to recommending a child live with a parent with serious allegations hanging over them.

My point was that they might NOT have known in the first place because the woman was afraid to raise the concerns.

Is that not what Nicola Gallagher's post was about? Silence?

Yeah but in RG statement he said 'Allegations against me have been investigated and dealt with by the relevant authorities.' that would be something that will be easily verified by police/ gateway so I would doubt his legal team would let him put that in the statement if it wasn't true.
#10
Quote from: J70 on May 11, 2023, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
Quote from: gallsman on May 11, 2023, 02:29:10 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 11, 2023, 02:08:43 PM
Yes but  That doesn't  mean these allegations are  true.

See now you're moving the goalposts. Nobody on this thread, as far as I can see, has said that the allegations are true or that Gallagher is guilty of anything.

Your point was to ask if you could just make up shit to get someone discredited and removed from their position. The counter to that is that serious allegations from someone close (for example, a wife) have to be taken more seriously than those of any old twat on the internet. Do you not see the difference?

I do see the  difference. But  my point was that trial  by FB sets  a dangerous precedence. 

I didn't really want to  go into this  case ,  but  it  seems odd  that he has custody of  kids , and surely that involved courts/authorities, so  why wasn't  these allegations  made during that process ?

Like I say ,  I really didn't want to  go into this , as it's clearly a delicate issue.  So that's  all I'll say on it.

Come on, are you really that naïve?

Her with an alcohol problem and possibly under threats of additional violence and being cut off completely from her children? You never heard of a similar scenario where a woman was afraid to go public?

If there were domestic abuse allegations with any foundation there is no way gateway/ social services would have given him custody. Regardless of whether the mother of a child has an alcohol problem. It's not a case of they have to go with one of the parents, if there are doubts over both parents the kids would go to a family member or into care. Not a chance a social worker would leave themselves open to recommending a child live with a parent with serious allegations hanging over them.
#11
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
May 11, 2023, 10:39:26 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on May 11, 2023, 09:43:57 AM
Is it just me or are we seeing more walkovers/teams not fielding than normal ? Creggan and Ahoghill didn't take place last night in Div2

When the county clearly dont care about the leagues then can see why clubs might have the same attitude.
#12
Quote from: J70 on May 10, 2023, 04:19:08 PM
Quote from: grounded on May 10, 2023, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on May 10, 2023, 12:24:34 PM
Quote from: grounded on May 10, 2023, 12:20:23 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on May 10, 2023, 11:18:41 AM
Lock the thread Mods!!

Yep, ditto to that.
We'd still need a thread to talk about the match though?

There has been little or no discussion of the match this last few pages.

We're five hours behind most of you, but I wasn't expecting THIS when I clicked on the thread to see the latest.

f**king helll!☹️

Derry in a tough spot, but the only responsible thing to do is stand him down for now until this is resolved.

So if it comes to light that it's been a vindictive ex who is trying to ruin a man, his career and his life. They should be allowed to take away one of the biggest achievements in his life? I know where people are coming from but this is the very definition of trial by social media, innocent until proven guilty is what it should be and whether we think someone is guilty or not they shouldn't be hung before all the facts are brought to light not just 1 side.
#13
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
May 05, 2023, 07:30:39 AM
Quote from: ck on May 04, 2023, 11:06:53 PM
Quote from: Saffsof82 on May 04, 2023, 10:10:19 PM
Bit of chat around league restructure, div 1 10 teams, that would change a lot I think, a fair margin for error and also experiment at the current time in a 13 team league, bring it down to 10 would change a lot of managers outlooks

Div.1 and Div.2 should be 10 teams each. 13 far too many. Covid was the excuse for the uneven number and no relegation in 20 and 21.
Get back to 10 teams and see much more competitive divisions with every game a fight to stay up.

I think with the way we are with so many dual clubs and so many games to fit in without county players the 12 team division is dead on. Teams pick up points before the split then when the split comes with full panels you give teams a better chance to stay up and aren't being hampered too much without county players.

If we go to 10 teams there's less room for error and the teams fighting to stay up will be far less likely to want to play without their county players and rightly so.
#14
Antrim / Re: Antrim Hurling
May 03, 2023, 04:26:03 PM
No promotion in any of the hurling leagues this year? Surely that can't be right? What incentive does that give to teams, surely they would deserve a play off at the very least
#15
in soccer, def YouTube. My wee boy turned 6 last month and he knows all the players and their numbers etc from Youtube lol, he's football mad, out in the garden he's doing the celebrations and all lol. I hate him being anywhere near his tablet esp now the good weather coming in but I kinda let him away if he's watching football clips as I think it's getting him more into sport.