McKenna Cup 2024

[Walter Cronc]

Thing is McKeever does have a hard-one for big Sean

Reason being he is useless and big Sean aint so he tries to take Cavanagh out of it using illegal methods. Is as simple as that

What's unfortunate is that if Sean was using his rules of engagement he would take the head of him, he's a wee tub of lard FFS.

But the thing is McKeever's rules of engagement are illegal and he should be punished accordingly, in the match earlier this month it was a scuffle between Findon and Cavnagh that was over until McKeever arrived and all hell broke loose.

He rightly got a red and long may it continue for his behaviour

Hahaha catch yourself on!!

[LurganHoop]

omaghjoe...has it gotten to the stage where you actually want to argue about who would win in a fight?! Playground stuff pal. Grow up.

[omaghjoe]

omaghjoe...has it gotten to the stage where you actually want to argue about who would win in a fight?! Playground stuff pal. Grow up.

Hmmm....I seem to remember someone's repsone to cheap shots as

"If you want to box we'll box"

I was only offering the perspective of your messiah. 

But your right its not relevant in this case as neither want to box. Sean wants to play football and the bar stool hardman wants to try and take him out of it when he's vulnerable

[armaghniac]

Exactly Illdecide so a bit like with Tyrone and the diving, ye have been labeled with it whether ye like it or not.

except in the truth of the labelling, Tyrone did dive.

[LurganHoop]

omaghjoe...has it gotten to the stage where you actually want to argue about who would win in a fight?! Playground stuff pal. Grow up.

Hmmm....I seem to remember someone's repsone to cheap shots as

"If you want to box we'll box"

I was only offering the perspective of your messiah. 

But your right its not relevant in this case as neither want to box. Sean wants to play football and the bar stool hardman wants to try and take him out of it when he's vulnerable

So  you're now saying you want to box as opposed to playing football?  Sure you're  sorted either way considering big Sean would carry the head off any poor soul who tries to take him on...

On the  "let's box" issue...I'm sure more than a few Tyrone people would have preferred that attitude  when Philip Jordan was clothes lined during  the  previous  IR test.

And vulnerable....hardly! It's not like he dropped a  cowardly knee on him when cavanagh was on the ground...

[Throw ball]

Yellow,
Simple question for you.
Could you rank what YOU think are the most physically imposing counties in Ulster?

Why do you think teams like Derry, Antrim, Fermanagh and Down don't seem to put as much emphasis on this side of the game?
Would they benefit more if they did?
Have Donegal upped the physicality levels on the past three years?

IMHO you're contradicting yourself on this thread as I think you'd love to see Big Sean get a damn good hiding as he deserves but not to get caught doing it and be man down.

It's good to be back down at Armaghs level, just for the banter.

This physical approach put forward by the media is a nonsense, there were a few minor skirmishes broke out in games involving Armagh last year but because they weren't speaking to a load of hacks they were fair game to be attacked by the press. As for your question, well that is a nonsense as Armagh are no more or less physical than any other county, the only difference is we don't go crying like babies when someone starts pushing our players about in melees. You give it and you take it, its not tiddlywinks. How do you even measure physicality, get the first XV to start bench pressing, throw them in a UFC dome and have them wrestle? If there were mass punch ups or physical violence then I'd be the first to condemn it but to the best of my knowledge nobody has got injured from any of these horrible obscene acts of violence that Armagh have pre planned and instigated since last year. Just hyperbole and exaggeration to feed the hysterical parts of the media. Its no coincidence that now that McMenamin and Gormley have retired that Tyrone men are getting on their high horse complaining about an overly physical appraoch.

1. Don't go crying like babies - wasn't that because there was a self imposed media ban and weren't allowed to cry?

2. Nobody has got injured - What happened Dunne then during the altercation?

Without wanting to get involved in all this crap - it is only a McKenna Cup match - I feel it is important to point out that Martin Dunne injured himself punching Jamie Clarke. He got a ban for his troubles.

[omaghjoe]

omaghjoe...has it gotten to the stage where you actually want to argue about who would win in a fight?! Playground stuff pal. Grow up.

Hmmm....I seem to remember someone's repsone to cheap shots as

"If you want to box we'll box"

I was only offering the perspective of your messiah. 

But your right its not relevant in this case as neither want to box. Sean wants to play football and the bar stool hardman wants to try and take him out of it when he's vulnerable

So  you're now saying you want to box as opposed to playing football?

No I am not saying that. Have a read of my post, I clearly stated that I was only offering your Messiah's perspective

Sure you're  sorted either way considering big Sean would carry the head off any poor soul who tries to take him on...

Considering Sean can play football and is usually the most talented player on the pitch he his more useful on the field, I don't think he is likely to do this.
Considering McKeever cant play football his most useful function is taking other players out I think he is most likely to continue in this vain

On the  "let's box" issue...I'm sure more than a few Tyrone people would have preferred that attitude  when Philip Jordan was clothes lined during  the  previous  IR test.

NO we would have preferred for the Aussies to play within the rules  TBH

And vulnerable....hardly! It's not like he dropped a  cowardly knee on him when cavanagh was on the ground...

I count running full tilt and smashing an elbow into someones face when they cant see you coming as being fairly vulnerable. Maybe you don't that's fine everyone's perspective is skewed after a few buckies

[ONeill]

Heard Cavanagh is taking bets on what minute he'll get McKeever sent off. New sport.

[Fuzzman]

Yeah lettuce do a fiver sweepstake.
I'll go for 29th min
Oh sorry that's right
McGeeney won't play his best team for this tin cup game.

[omaghjoe]

Yeah lettuce do a fiver sweepstake.
I'll go for 29th min
Oh sorry that's right
McGeeney won't play his best team for this tin cup game.

Nah ye'll be alright.
Armagh's best team will hardly include McKeever

[Redhand Santa]

Some nonsense from a few Armagh fans in recent weeks. The stuff about cavanagh being intimidated by mckeever is ridiculous.

Cavanagh goes out on the field to play football, that's what he's there for. Over the years he has taken every challenge that comes at him and played away being one of the most influential players. You'll also see him putting in plenty of big hits of his own. He has no problem going for 50 50 hits and can compete with the best in them. Ask Francie bellew or flick on the 05 semi and see it yourself if you doubt his physicality.

He tries to avoid fusty cuffs and wrestling matches as it'll do him and his team no good. Some people try to make that out to be yellow or soft, whereas in reality he just has a bit of sense.

I am expecting quite a physical game tomorrow night. Armagh are adopting quite a physical approach and tyrone are out to prove they won't lie down to it. No matter what anyone says on here both teams will be trying to win it. Should be good entertainment for January.

[Redhand Santa]

Strange enough tyrone team named. Wasn't sure if Conal McCann was still involved so interesting to see him named midfield. Mattie donnelly at 6, really think he's needed in the forwards this year. 3 clonoe men starting, Harte must be coming round to them.

[omaghjoe]

There haas been a couple of things i have decried big Sean for over the years for things like:
Fielding ability- very mediocre
Tracking Back - improved at this over the years
Apathy - Some games he seemed like he just didn't care, althought in big games he never went missing.

Being yella was never one of them he took on big men fairly and squarely and frequently came out on top

Then McKeever blindsides him during a scuffle and suddenly Cavanagh is seen a chicken... WTF

McKeever never goes near big Sean during normal play as he knows he will either get floored or end up chasing shadows.

[Redhand Santa]

People on here have been going on about Tyrone taking this more seriously and putting out stronger teams. Tomorrow night I think 8 of the tyrone team have yet to start a senior championship match. Looking at the Armagh team I think 12 or 13 would have started championship games.

With home advantage and experienced team out they are a good price but would still be hopeful of a tyrone win.

[BennyCake]

What's the story regarding tickets for tomorrow? Do you have to buy them from Supervalu or can you pay at the gate?