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Saffrongael

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #40230 on: February 01, 2022, 09:36:50 AM »
hear the Derry clubs looking back into juvenile and reserve leagues, be a good move for everyone that.

Agreed! Thereís a vast contrast in ability level within the leagues so this helps even it out a bit more. I think the external counties in our senior hurling leagues are badly needed kept too! I heard tell there was discussions as to whether they should be ďkept in.Ē Would be disastrous if they were removed! Eg St Galls and Sarsfields in Div 2 sit well at their level- if we remove the Down teams (for example) from Div 1, you end up with a lot  of mismatches in Div 1 and a waste of time for everyone concerned.
Iíd actually suggest pushing to get Slaughtneil etc into our league also to help push our top 4/5 teams on!

yes , 100% right, but heard the chairman not keen on outside clubs

I know heís chair and puts a fair amount of time into it Iím sure, but how could he possibly push through his own agenda without discussing with clubs? Did he even hurl? Or even hurl to a decent level to understand the need to for competitive games rather than drummings? Iíd be disappointed to see something like that become real.
Now that is a ridiculous statement. Do you need to play to know what a team needs? Plenty of managers  who have won top level competitions but have never won them as a player.

I didnít ask has he won something. Well aware of successful managers backgrounds.
The point Iím making is- if he hurled for NE in his time, itíll have been at a low standard, likely then without the ards teams or other teams in the league, therefore not knowing the benefit of having these teams in our league. If heís willing to make crass statements and potentially decisions about removing external teams from our leagues, without consulting with players/managers in the leagues affected, them heíd need to have experienced it himself- hence my question! I know now he hasnít, and shouldnít be making calls like that without some form of consultation.

Imagine Leinster didnít allow our hurlers into their league/championship through the years, wed have been complaining all the same.

Away and get your head felt lad, CMcC is a very intelligent man, I think he would have the wherewithal to consult others. I can't see him going on a solo run with something like this.
As for having to have experienced it himself before making this decision, ffs give him some credit. Your statement is akin to not letting lower league clubs send players forward to county teams due them not being of a required standard, if that's the case then Nicky English would never have worn the blue and gold jersey.

As for Leinster....for years they didnt allow us into any of their leagues, juvenile included. Currently they won't allow us to play any games at home, you sure you want to hold at this high standard you're portraying them to be?

If you know the man- which is seeming like you do- then youíd be well aware he loves a solo run! Again- youíre not reading what Iím asking and looking stupid in the process. I never said him playing lower league stops him playing county, I said it wouldnít have allowed him to experience the external teams coming into the league.
Regarding your Leinster statement, if we want to play in Leinster then we should have no problem travelling- we have no right to walk into a league/championship and demand home games etc.

Do you support his views on removing the external teams from our leagues then??

Early soundings are that we're not getting the U17's into the Antrim leagues which is disappointing to say the least.

Turns out CMcC rules the roost with an iron rod and gets his way!

Heís all ego

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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #40231 on: February 01, 2022, 09:52:15 AM »
One thing you have to understand about the man is that he doesn't do procrastination. In my experience he always consults and trys to achieve concensus but he will not wait for the perfect solution as he will always look to box an issue off and move on. Whats wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with that as long as your consultations take in a wide spread of opinions.

i have it from one source that one of his lieutenants believed there is value in allowing outside teams into the Antrim leagues to raise the standards but was shot down as no Antrim club team won an Ulster title this year, so why should Antrim develop these other teams??

SN don't have a team in the senior leagues but if they did it would certainly make it a lot more interesting.

Not sure about Banagher.

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« Reply #40232 on: February 01, 2022, 11:03:45 AM »
Wouldn't work with dual for those clubs.

if all that has happened it's disappointing. Kind of more up to you to raise your own standards than to lower those of other people.

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« Reply #40233 on: February 01, 2022, 11:17:37 AM »
Wouldn't work with dual for those clubs.

if all that has happened it's disappointing. Kind of more up to you to raise your own standards than to lower those of other people.

There's certainly a whiff of, you're welcome to come and play with us providing you don't start beating us alright which is counter productive as you point out.

From our perspective it's a blow alright but we'll have to work round it but friendlies are nowhere near as useful as a meaningful league game..


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« Reply #40234 on: February 01, 2022, 01:01:29 PM »
Wouldn't work with dual for those clubs.

if all that has happened it's disappointing. Kind of more up to you to raise your own standards than to lower those of other people.

There's certainly a whiff of, you're welcome to come and play with us providing you don't start beating us alright which is counter productive as you point out.

From our perspective it's a blow alright but we'll have to work round it but friendlies are nowhere near as useful as a meaningful league game..
It seems very short-sighted. Surely the aim should be to make the leagues as competitive as possible to make better players  which has a multiplier effect into county level. If Antrim teams were playing the likes of Sneil more often they might develop a plan for stopping them at provincial level.

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« Reply #40235 on: February 01, 2022, 01:09:52 PM »
Derry teams are in senior reserve , u20 and u17 leagues as of county meeting last night

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« Reply #40236 on: February 01, 2022, 01:38:50 PM »
One thing you have to understand about the man is that he doesn't do procrastination. In my experience he always consults and trys to achieve concensus but he will not wait for the perfect solution as he will always look to box an issue off and move on. Whats wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with that as long as your consultations take in a wide spread of opinions.

i have it from one source that one of his lieutenants believed there is value in allowing outside teams into the Antrim leagues to raise the standards but was shot down as no Antrim club team won an Ulster title this year, so why should Antrim develop these other teams??

SN don't have a team in the senior leagues but if they did it would certainly make it a lot more interesting.

Not sure about Banagher.

Seems a bit narrow minded if that's the attitude. It's not that many years ago we were cap in hand at HQ begging to get into Leinster SHC and underage leagues etc to improve our own competitiveness at intercounty level. Is this not the same thing at a different level ? There may be some other factor at play here, I am not sure. In fairness , history suggests Antrim have been quite accommodating over the years on these types of things.

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« Reply #40237 on: February 01, 2022, 02:18:12 PM »
Derry teams are in senior reserve , u20 and u17 leagues as of county meeting last night

If that's true, then all good.

My Derry source has maybe been misinformed..

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« Reply #40238 on: February 01, 2022, 03:52:55 PM »
Derry teams are in senior reserve , u20 and u17 leagues as of county meeting last night

If that's true, then all good.

My Derry source has maybe been misinformed..

3 Derry clubs, Lynches, Screen and Slaughtneil at U 20 level.

However these teams are to play their matches away, I understand.

Leagues are split so the Derry teams are in with North Antrim clubs and the Down teams are in a group with the Belfast clubs to save excess travel.

This does not apply to the Down clubs.

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« Reply #40239 on: February 01, 2022, 03:54:49 PM »
Derry teams are in senior reserve , u20 and u17 leagues as of county meeting last night

If that's true, then all good.

My Derry source has maybe been misinformed..

3 Derry clubs, Lynches, Screen and Slaughtneil at U 20 level.

However these teams are to play their matches away, I understand.

Leagues are split so the Derry teams are in with North Antrim clubs and the Down teams are in a group with the Belfast clubs to save excess travel.

This does not apply to the Down clubs
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The Down clubs will have home fixtures.

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« Reply #40240 on: February 01, 2022, 05:12:27 PM »
u20 slaughtneil, lynches and lavey
resrve lavey, lynches and screen
div 3 na magha

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« Reply #40241 on: February 01, 2022, 11:53:38 PM »
So our club secretary at the county board meeting Monday night and says it was passed that all Derry teams were allowed entry to Antrim all county leagues from u15 up, but something seems to have changed today as no u15 and no u17. Donít understand how that can be it county meeting passed it last night?

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« Reply #40242 on: February 03, 2022, 10:31:25 AM »
So our club secretary at the county board meeting Monday night and says it was passed that all Derry teams were allowed entry to Antrim all county leagues from u15 up, but something seems to have changed today as no u15 and no u17. Donít understand how that can be it county meeting passed it last night?

Yep,
   Our secretary has just informed me that we're not getting the U17 hurlers into the Antrim leagues. Disappointing to say the least.


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Re: ANTRIM HURLING
« Reply #40243 on: February 06, 2022, 05:24:14 PM »
Skinny getting some slating online about his performance in Parnell.

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« Reply #40244 on: February 06, 2022, 07:45:49 PM »
Skinny getting some slating online about his performance in Parnell.

Watched the game, very difficult to ref that game with all the rucks and slapping going on.

Was this slating on Twitter?
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