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« Reply #36045 on: December 25, 2021, 09:34:59 PM »
It was limited to one player from each club in fairness.

What difference does that make to whether Laverty should be included or not? As Johnny says, as a club club absolutely but as a county player he was never good enough during this period.
Some posters had Brendan McVeigh as the An Riocht selection, meaning the two Clarkes were ineligible for selection in the forward line, majority of people would select Ambrose as the Longstone rep, ruling out Mark Poland.

Similarly, picking Benny rules out Sexton and Walsh, plenty of other examples. No one suggested Laverty was in the top 6 forwards for Down in the last 20 years, but under the only 1 player from each club rule, he more than warrants a mention in my opinion.

He might deserve a mention but that is as far as it goes. There are better options from his club than him in my opinion.
who are these better options? Its only bitta craic, not that serious. Throw up your team with all these better options than everyone else 👍

I have spoken about 1 player having better options from his club than Laverty. Paul Devlin, Ryan Johnston, Jerome Johnston, Darragh O'Hanlon. Kilcoo had limited County input in this period so who says they need to have a player anyway?

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« Reply #36046 on: December 25, 2021, 10:55:32 PM »
It was limited to one player from each club in fairness.

What difference does that make to whether Laverty should be included or not? As Johnny says, as a club club absolutely but as a county player he was never good enough during this period.
Some posters had Brendan McVeigh as the An Riocht selection, meaning the two Clarkes were ineligible for selection in the forward line, majority of people would select Ambrose as the Longstone rep, ruling out Mark Poland.

Similarly, picking Benny rules out Sexton and Walsh, plenty of other examples. No one suggested Laverty was in the top 6 forwards for Down in the last 20 years, but under the only 1 player from each club rule, he more than warrants a mention in my opinion.

He might deserve a mention but that is as far as it goes. There are better options from his club than him in my opinion.
who are these better options? Its only bitta craic, not that serious. Throw up your team with all these better options than everyone else 👍

I have spoken about 1 player having better options from his club than Laverty. Paul Devlin, Ryan Johnston, Jerome Johnston, Darragh O'Hanlon. Kilcoo had limited County input in this period so who says they need to have a player anyway?
nobody says kilcoo have to have a player named in the team. The players named may go on to have great county careers but over the last 20 years no kilcoo player has had a better county career than Connor laverty.

In my team Paul McCommiskey, Connnaire Harrison, Kevin McKernan, Ronan murtagh, all came into consideration and argument could be made for any of them.

Interesting the club's that have nobody really in contention, Warrenpoint, Glenn, Bredagh, Carryduff, over next 20 years I'd say that'll change
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Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
« Reply #36047 on: December 25, 2021, 10:59:46 PM »
Saul too are benefiting from a huge growth in house building over the past 15/20 years, in the downpatrick end of their parish.


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« Reply #36048 on: December 25, 2021, 11:02:09 PM »
Strange that the likes of Bryansford and Castlewellan havent got a nailed on outfield player either. Two traditional big clubs, I suppose similar could be said regarding RGU.

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« Reply #36049 on: December 27, 2021, 07:03:41 PM »
Heard from an in-the-know individual that Saul could have 4 players on the senior panel next season.

That could hinder their club form with a new management team trying to find their feet without those lads at training.

A challenge but one Im sure they all welcome.

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« Reply #36050 on: December 27, 2021, 07:21:37 PM »
Heard from an in-the-know individual that Saul could have 4 players on the senior panel next season.

That could hinder their club form with a new management team trying to find their feet without those lads at training.

A challenge but one Im sure they all welcome.

It must be a big panel if Saul have 4 players on it!

With the new split season, it's nearly a disadvantage to have players on the county squad especially if they aren't getting game time with either team and getting less fit being no advantage when they come back to the club. We all want the county team to do well but if it is to the detriment of our clubs, I know where my allegiance would be.

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« Reply #36051 on: December 27, 2021, 07:47:20 PM »
Heard from an in-the-know individual that Saul could have 4 players on the senior panel next season.

That could hinder their club form with a new management team trying to find their feet without those lads at training.

A challenge but one Im sure they all welcome.

Laverty, OHare and 2 of the Harneys? I reckon Laverty and OHare will be the 2 who will be unavailable for them

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« Reply #36052 on: December 27, 2021, 07:51:09 PM »
I think the Saul goalie played county at underage level. Id be tempted to give last years u20 keeper, Charlie Smith a go. He looked promising.

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« Reply #36053 on: December 27, 2021, 08:02:14 PM »
The two Harneys were passengers against Burren and Carryduff last year in the championship so why would they be involved at this level. Decent in Div 2 but far too small to have any impact for Down. If they don't make match day squads they are losing out and so are Saul.

Hazard isn't at this level either but Smyth can be a liability as we saw with the 20's last year. Who is our No.1?

Rumours of a county training camp this week.


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« Reply #36054 on: December 27, 2021, 08:29:35 PM »
Pierce Laverty & Ciaran Harney have been on panel a while now & Jack Hazzard & Ruairi OHare would be worth a look.

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« Reply #36055 on: December 27, 2021, 08:34:08 PM »
Ciaran Harney was there a year or 2 back but apart from Mc Kenna Cup got little action. O'Hare offers something with his size and mobility but a no for Hazard with me. Laverty is also hurt and could be out for a while.

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« Reply #36056 on: December 27, 2021, 09:22:31 PM »
Mr Lottery you must spend a lot of time in Docs & The Busty Bee with the other influencers.

You have your finger on the faint pulse of Down football.

Defo a man whos in the know!!

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« Reply #36057 on: December 27, 2021, 11:22:56 PM »
Mr Lottery you must spend a lot of time in Docs & The Busty Bee with the other influencers.

You have your finger on the faint pulse of Down football.

Defo a man whos in the know!!
With AoR in the Down Management the Training Camp
must be in La Manga.

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« Reply #36058 on: December 28, 2021, 05:50:50 PM »
   And sorry to hear about the retirement of Darragh O'Hanlon from all football due to successive injuries
over the last few years.

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« Reply #36059 on: December 29, 2021, 12:04:32 AM »
   And sorry to hear about the retirement of Darragh O'Hanlon from all football due to successive injuries
over the last few years.
great lad, great player, sad to see him have to retire. Fully fit he was some asset to club and county.
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