FIFA World Cup Qatar 2022

Started by laoislad, April 01, 2022, 06:16:12 PM

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brokencrossbar1

MacAllister just signed a new deal with Brighton before he went to the WC. Clever business by them. You'd think they'll get bids for him and Caicedo in January and could easily make close to £100m.

Martinez is an asshole. Think he was disrespectful to Mbappe too in the changing rooms. A good keeper who had the tournament of a lifetime. Villa could cash in on him and get great money too from a European team,  though he's dodgy with his feet.

As for players off the back of a tournament my heart still breaks over El Hadj Dioff

nrico2006

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 03:36:48 PM
Remember being young and United signing Poborsky off the back of the Euro's and that goal.  I definitely think the difference with international football is how together certain teams or squads are along with how passionate/patriotic certain nations players are.  The major factor though is that the standard of international football isn't as high as top tier club football.

So the French team wouldn't be competing for the EPL if they had a team in it? Or Brazil for that matter or the current winners?

On average, the standard is lower.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

From the Bunker

Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 03:36:48 PM
Remember being young and United signing Poborsky off the back of the Euro's and that goal.  I definitely think the difference with international football is how together certain teams or squads are along with how passionate/patriotic certain nations players are.  The major factor though is that the standard of international football isn't as high as top tier club football.

So the French team wouldn't be competing for the EPL if they had a team in it? Or Brazil for that matter or the current winners?

On average, the standard is lower.

Yes, the World Cup standard is of a lower level on average. What makes the World Cup special is the National identity and belonging of the players. That also with the tournament being held every four years and a guaranteed world-wide audience.


Milltown Row2

Quote from: From the Bunker on December 20, 2022, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 03:36:48 PM
Remember being young and United signing Poborsky off the back of the Euro's and that goal.  I definitely think the difference with international football is how together certain teams or squads are along with how passionate/patriotic certain nations players are.  The major factor though is that the standard of international football isn't as high as top tier club football.

So the French team wouldn't be competing for the EPL if they had a team in it? Or Brazil for that matter or the current winners?

On average, the standard is lower.

Yes, the World Cup standard is of a lower level on average. What makes the World Cup special is the National identity and belonging of the players. That also with the tournament being held every four years and a guaranteed world-wide audience.

I put up four National teams, in every league there are maybe, depending on which league, 2 cracking teams and 2 better than average, the rest aren't great, I didn't mentioned Spain or Portugal or even the Dutch or Belgium teams, while Belgium were shite at this tournament they are better than Utd spurs Chelsea and on current league form, Liverpool!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 07:17:28 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 20, 2022, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 06:52:45 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 20, 2022, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 03:36:48 PM
Remember being young and United signing Poborsky off the back of the Euro's and that goal.  I definitely think the difference with international football is how together certain teams or squads are along with how passionate/patriotic certain nations players are.  The major factor though is that the standard of international football isn't as high as top tier club football.

So the French team wouldn't be competing for the EPL if they had a team in it? Or Brazil for that matter or the current winners?

On average, the standard is lower.

Yes, the World Cup standard is of a lower level on average. What makes the World Cup special is the National identity and belonging of the players. That also with the tournament being held every four years and a guaranteed world-wide audience.

I put up four National teams, in every league there are maybe, depending on which league, 2 cracking teams and 2 better than average, the rest aren't great, I didn't mentioned Spain or Portugal or even the Dutch or Belgium teams, while Belgium were shite at this tournament they are better than Utd spurs Chelsea and on current league form, Liverpool!
Maybe if they were training together all year round like club teams they'd be a higher standard, but tactically the club game is miles ahead

Saffrongael

It's not difficult to get your head round, top level European clubs have a massive transfer budget. A national team is restricted by who they can pick
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

ardtole

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 20, 2022, 06:32:31 PM
MacAllister just signed a new deal with Brighton before he went to the WC. Clever business by them. You'd think they'll get bids for him and Caicedo in January and could easily make close to £100m.

Martinez is an asshole. Think he was disrespectful to Mbappe too in the changing rooms. A good keeper who had the tournament of a lifetime. Villa could cash in on him and get great money too from a European team,  though he's dodgy with his feet.

As for players off the back of a tournament my heart still breaks over El Hadj Dioff

Was Salif Diao signed at the same time with just as little impact.

J70

Diao came in as a squad option though. Diouff came in as a starting forward, and worse, it meant they opted against Anelka, who had just completed a successful half-season loan at Anfield.

And in addition to being fairly useless overall, Diouff was a sc**bag.

nrico2006

France have an excellent squad, but you can see the difference in standards on average just by looking at the individual players representing Morocco, Argentina and Croatia in the semi finals. Its not even comparable to the top club teams.  As Saffrongael stated, it's common sense that clubs with no nationality or financial restrictions will have better sides than most national sides.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

AustinPowers

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 20, 2022, 06:32:31 PM
MacAllister just signed a new deal with Brighton before he went to the WC. Clever business by them. You'd think they'll get bids for him and Caicedo in January and could easily make close to £100m.

Martinez is an asshole. Think he was disrespectful to Mbappe too in the changing rooms. A good keeper who had the tournament of a lifetime. Villa could cash in on him and get great money too from a European team,  though he's dodgy with his feet.

As for players off the back of a tournament my heart still breaks over El Hadj Dioff

His feet won them  the World Cup,  to be fair

seafoid

Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 07:49:47 PM
France have an excellent squad, but you can see the difference in standards on average just by looking at the individual players representing Morocco, Argentina and Croatia in the semi finals. Its not even comparable to the top club teams.  As Saffrongael stated, it's common sense that clubs with no nationality or financial restrictions will have better sides than most national sides.
That's because of the money in soccer. PSG have Neymar and Messi.
The last 6 World Cups have been won by 6 different teams. Competitiveness is better than in the moneybags Champions League where it's always the same teams.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: seafoid on December 21, 2022, 01:57:02 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 07:49:47 PM
France have an excellent squad, but you can see the difference in standards on average just by looking at the individual players representing Morocco, Argentina and Croatia in the semi finals. Its not even comparable to the top club teams.  As Saffrongael stated, it's common sense that clubs with no nationality or financial restrictions will have better sides than most national sides.
That's because of the money in soccer. PSG have Neymar and Messi.
The last 6 World Cups have been won by 6 different teams. Competitiveness is better than in the moneybags Champions League where it's always the same teams.
Same six teams have shared the World Cup in the last 55 years

Last four Champions league titles was won by 4 different teams and three of the finalists Tottenham, PSG, Manchester City reached their first final, the longer the latter two go without winning it the funnier it will be.

seafoid

Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 21, 2022, 02:35:00 AM
Quote from: seafoid on December 21, 2022, 01:57:02 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on December 20, 2022, 07:49:47 PM
France have an excellent squad, but you can see the difference in standards on average just by looking at the individual players representing Morocco, Argentina and Croatia in the semi finals. Its not even comparable to the top club teams.  As Saffrongael stated, it's common sense that clubs with no nationality or financial restrictions will have better sides than most national sides.
That's because of the money in soccer. PSG have Neymar and Messi.
The last 6 World Cups have been won by 6 different teams. Competitiveness is better than in the moneybags Champions League where it's always the same teams.
Same six teams have shared the World Cup in the last 55 years

Last four Champions league titles was won by 4 different teams and three of the finalists Tottenham, PSG, Manchester City reached their first final, the longer the latter two go without winning it the funnier it will be.
5 teams have shared the last 12 Champions League titles. Concentration power is stronger at club level. Because of money.
Maybe that makes the World Cup more interesting .

seafoid

https://www.rte.ie/sport/world-cup-2022/2022/1220/1342998-world-cup-within-reach-of-states-and-celebrity-chefs/

journalist Jon Sopel quoted a source close to the Qatari ruling family on the News Agents podcast.

"Nothing good has come to us as a result of this. And this has all been a giant waste of money, and I wish it would all just go away, but it can't," paraphrased Sopel, adding that the general consensus was that the tournament had, after just three days, "gone to s**t in so many ways".

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Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 20, 2022, 06:32:31 PM
MacAllister just signed a new deal with Brighton before he went to the WC. Clever business by them. You'd think they'll get bids for him and Caicedo in January and could easily make close to £100m.

Martinez is an asshole. Think he was disrespectful to Mbappe too in the changing rooms. A good keeper who had the tournament of a lifetime. Villa could cash in on him and get great money too from a European team,  though he's dodgy with his feet.

As for players off the back of a tournament my heart still breaks over El Hadj Dioff

An absolute w**ker. Mbappe put 4 past him ffs. The guy has no self awareness. That's why he's at Villa. Arteta couldn't stand him.