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#16
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive



haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.

Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.

Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)



So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?

Yes and yes

1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around

Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some

Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
#17
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive



haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.

Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.

Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)

#18
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%

You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.

Yes

But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub

Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive

#19
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PM
Sinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE

Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections

I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
#20
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 15, 2024, 11:48:34 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 11:40:50 AM
Quote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.

50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants

The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters

In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters

So out of touch its not funny

Yes

Go to Trinity (or Blackrock College)

Add a few fadas to your name

Bobs your uncle

Champagne socialist starter pack
#21
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 15, 2024, 10:14:44 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 09:19:13 AMThe uber nationalist, I am more Irish than you, flag waving Nazi's are ironically closely aligned with the Far Right in England and even Loyalist paramilitaries in the North. They even invite them into Ireland to speak at their little rallies. That just about sums up the brain power in operation in the Far Right and their supporters like Whitey and Burdizzo. Empty vessels with one or two brain cells rattling around inside.

50% of Sinn Fein supporters now support border checks to stem the flow of migrants

The people inviting these far right types in would very very likely be Sinn Fein supporters

In this immigration matter-Sinn Fein gave the 2 fingers to their most loyal supporters
#22
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 14, 2024, 08:07:42 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 14, 2024, 07:57:41 PMMore summery

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/traitor-slogans-daubed-beside-mary-lou-mcdonalds-constituency-office-in-dublin/a627268100.html

52% of Sinn Fein supporters want checkpoints at the border with Northern Ireland to limit the number of asylum-seekers coming from the U.K.?

LOL

Couldn't make it up
#23
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 14, 2024, 05:36:18 PM
And I'm actually very much pro migrant

My biggest issue is that the fraudsters are taking resources and good will away from the legitimate asylum seekers/international protecting applicants.

The inability/unwillingness of the government to enforce existing laws has and their complete dishonesty when asked basic questions have created a tindex box.
#24
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 14, 2024, 04:46:49 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 04:40:22 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?


How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting

Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.

I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?

Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?

Seems like a no brainer to me

Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least




Debating with you is like debating with a 5 year old. Never answer questions, make statements (like above) trying to put words in my mouth, clearly i never said any such thing. I don't know why I bother. You're just a racist, it's as simple as that.


The govt and various NGOs said that people without ID had their fingerprints run through an international criminal database

That was false......and I'm a racist for pointing it out

#25
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 14, 2024, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?


How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting

Sounds like it is not possible to vet people, doesnt it. I mean do you think someone escaping war in the Sudan for example will have their finger prints on an international database. There is no way to vet 100% people and when you get a group in you will get the normal distribution of good people (vast Majority) and bad people (small minority) just like you do in the general population. The issue is the racist far right want you to equate black faces with all being unvetted criminals.

I see you then had a dig at "NGO's" which seems to be another Far Right thing to do these days, despite those clowns not even knowing what NGOs are or do and how fcuked we would be as a country without them. Which ones have you and issue with or is it all of them?

Why wouldn't you want the authorities to make every effort to verify the identities of those entering the country and conduct rudimentary background checks using all available technologies including international criminal fingerprint databases?

Seems like a no brainer to me

Re the NGOs-the fact that any taxpayer funded entity have a financial incentive to act against the best interests of the taxpayer and the everyday working person is mind boggling to say the least


#26
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 14, 2024, 02:43:22 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?


How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting

Where a thorough vetting is impossible or impractical I think we should be using every possible tool available and currently we're not doing that

(Even though the government and NGOs lied and said we were)
#27
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 14, 2024, 02:36:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 02:22:46 PMNow I have a question for you, If your applicant has his/her finger prints taken and if they are put into the international criminal database and they come back as having no record of criminality on that database - Do you now consider that person to be "vetted"?


How do you thoroughly vet someone whose identity you can't verify (or someone who comes from a country where records may Be non existent).

Is it a good start-yes

But it is the bare minimum we should be doing.

I would say that they have passed a preliminary vetting
#28
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 14, 2024, 02:15:24 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 14, 2024, 01:09:15 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 14, 2024, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on May 14, 2024, 12:14:15 PMYeah, exactly. When are the Guards and politicians going to stop harassing local populations by forcibly planting hundreds of unvetted men from completely different cultures into peaceful communities?

Under the current laws (cause whether you like that or not, that's the way its meant to be, until its changed)

Unvetted person comes to Ireland and seeks asylum, under the current system how should that be done?

If they are vetted and approved, are you ok with that?  even though they are from different cultures? Or is it just different cultures that have you up in arms (literally) ?

I'm fairly sure, if yer man was honest, vetting would consist of looking at the colour of the applicants face and if it wasn't white vetting failed. In addition check persons religion, if Muslim vetting failed.

The government had claimed that people's fingerprints were being checked against international criminal databases

That was not true.

Do you think it is a far right opinion to ask that people with no (or visibly fake) Id  have their fingerprints checked against international criminal databases ?
#29
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 12, 2024, 09:29:54 AMI know social media isn't real but a lot of the bots and pro-Israel accounts are really attacking Bambie Thug. Essentially is this what we are exposing our poor kids to?

Of course, 'won't someone think of the children!' doesn't extend to the ones in Gaza...

That's that for another year...

Well if Michael Martin and RTE were in favor of Bambi Thug, a certain proportion of the population were always going to do the exact opposite
#30
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 11, 2024, 10:19:57 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 08:46:19 PM
Quote from: Rebel84 on May 11, 2024, 08:20:11 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 11, 2024, 06:01:21 PM
Quote from: whitey on May 11, 2024, 03:33:04 PMI seriously don't know what your question is

Are you saying that people (legal Irish Residents) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) shouldn't be allowed (on principal) to lead protests or are you saying that people (legal Irish citizens) of low moral character (with criminal convictions) should be legally prohibited from leading protests?

In some jurisdictions  you can be prohibited by a court of law from associating with "known criminals" as part of a sentencing agreement. If that, or similar processes are in place in Ireland, then I would expect and demand that the Gardai fully enforce it


Let's start with my 1st Question...


Can you explain to me how you do "rigorous background checks" on someone fleeing a warzone.

What war are the Georgians fleeing from?

The question is for the yank, you can keep your nonsense out of it dumbo

Well my first response was going to be that a large percentage of people seeking international protection were NOT COMING FROM WARZONES, but from countries deemed safe by our own government

But for those fleeing warzones, with just the clothes on their backs, rigorous vetting does becomes more problematic.

The government HAD been telling us that peoples fingerprints were being checked against CRIMINAL databases. This is now proven to be 100% untrue.

The Irish Refugee Council has even amended such verbiage on their website


And would totally explain situations like this: 

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-41391070.html