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If you are going to give it to someone, internally or not, you just can't go lumping someone else in with them just to suit a certain perceived bias or balance, i.e. Horse with someone from the city!

Whoever you give it to needs to live and die on their own sword and let them bring in whoever they need or want as in the end it's them that will have to work with the whole team, coaches and all.

Don't know a thing about Collins other than the bit about Bush loving his "let's not be conquerors" speech. What's he done since?!

He's dined out on that since.

A bit like that móron, Johnny Mercer, no real intelligence to speak off even through the plummy voice.

Good win in Croke Park for the U20's. Although it is B grade, hopefully encourage a number of the players to buy into the county system. Good year for the senior hurlers, Division 3 and Joe Mcdonagh status retained - however lack of clubs providing hurling making it difficult to push to next level.

There's more clubs providing hurling than there ever was in Down, the All county P4 and P6 blitzes have kids from teams and area's that haven't fielded in such a long time and in good numbers and long may it continue.

Galway down to 14 men against the Dubs. It has really changed the course of the game with Dublin coming back into it.

Plus they'll be against the wind in 2nd half.

A red card for me. Reckless when ball was gone.

Thought red was severe... yellow for me

Probably was an orange card, too much for a yellow but not enough for a red for me anyway.

Again this happens in any of the Munster games and its barely a foul, yellow at most. The levels of consistency are ridiculous across the country.

Antrim had a man sent off the week before for a tap on the helmet, Kyle Hayes full on welts across the neck and face and its a yellow card. Crazy.

And Carlow got a lad sent off for pushing someone to the ground in a bit of a ruck...

That would just be manly hurling in Munster.

Getting to the U20 final again is the 3rd All-Ireland underage appearance in a row for Offaly. Though this is mainly with the same nucleus of players all along. 11 of the starting 15 will be underage again next year.

Yeah, they looked very young and were overpowered by Cork last year, so it will be interesting to see how they manage against a Tipp team that were outhurled everywhere but the scoreboard in the Munster final and have a very decent full forward line with Darragh McCarthy the new rising star of Tipp hurling who's racking up the medals a fair bit and probably has another year at this level as well.

Yep, Offaly's chances against Tipp are better. They play more conventionally and don't dominate physically or with possession to the same degree.

Big rumbles in Offaly now because the match is already a sell out via Ticketmaster and there is no separate ticket allocation for Offaly clubs. Tipp took 5k for their clubs.

Saw that. Was that not on Offaly County board though?


Nowlan Park pitch looked a bit of a mess on sunday, not to mention there's no floodlighting if it goes to extra time on Saturday night

Word on the streets is that in North Down Alex Easton will be the "unified" Unionist candidate (i.e. TUV/Reform and DUP), but if he gets in he'll allocate his Stormont MLA post to a certain Donaghadee Bin Orator..

Alliance maybe planting this seed to scare anyone with a titter of wit away from him.

Tim "Nice but dim" Collins won't cause much of a wave in this area. Doug Beattie has made a major faux pas here in picking a fellow army buddy.

Its clear every interview how much respect Gleeson has(two way thing)
I think outside is the only way, long term i think our goal is just maintain Div 1 and Senior champ. This chat of Leinster finals etc. Weve a lot of good years left in our top performers, we need a conveyor belt of talent coming to support them. Easier said than done

There are probably a lot of fellas in the county of senior club level but not at a county level s&c wise. Decky McCloskey for example

Surely wee Micky McShane has to be in with a shout if Gleeson moves on?

Galway down to 14 men against the Dubs. It has really changed the course of the game with Dublin coming back into it.

Plus they'll be against the wind in 2nd half.

A red card for me. Reckless when ball was gone.

Thought red was severe... yellow for me

You might be right. Me I am not sure about it. The thing about it is though Burke didn't have to make the hit. He deliberately laid the man out and left the ref with a decision to make. The ref didn't have the benefit of slow motion replays and after consulting with the linesman Burke was gone.

It cost Galway the game and possibly Henry his job

Not so sure it cost them the game - they had a strong Salthill wind  behind them in the first half.
And let's face it they've been sh*te all year. Were not going to be contenders one way or another

Galway have indeed been shíte this year, a team on the wane and needing fresh legs to carry the fight which was sadly lacking on Sunday, and in Wexford and in the game against a Kilkenny team shorn of a lot of it's scoring threat.

Burke had no need to do what he did, the ball was gone and whilst I think he did pull out of it a bit himself he can't be surprised that a red was shown considering the directive on head hits that referees are rightly enforcing except I might add the one on John Conlon in Thurles, which to my mind was worse, as Conlan had no chance to brace himself. Ref consults with the Linesman, yellow!

Getting to the U20 final again is the 3rd All-Ireland underage appearance in a row for Offaly. Though this is mainly with the same nucleus of players all along. 11 of the starting 15 will be underage again next year.

Yeah, they looked very young and were overpowered by Cork last year, so it will be interesting to see how they manage against a Tipp team that were outhurled everywhere but the scoreboard in the Munster final and have a very decent full forward line with Darragh McCarthy the new rising star of Tipp hurling who's racking up the medals a fair bit and probably has another year at this level as well.

Decent game, the Aviva looked well. Deserved win for Atlanta.
Didn't Lookman play for Everton previously ?

Had a spell at Fulham too fairly recently where he did well enough.

Those were three of the best finishes you could ever see. Wonder how much that single game will have inflated his value?

Would he count as homegrown for a Premier League club even though he declared for Nigeria at senior level?

Yeh he'd be considered homegrown as he was trained by a club in England for 3 years between his 15th and 21st Birthday.

He also played for England at youth level.

Was too young at Everton, he's only 26 or something now.

Cork Echo doing the sums.

I've not seen anyone giving blind support to Hamas, but in keeping with your bad faith comments.

Would you call children that are killed in war as non combatants

of course, why would anyone consider them combatants...

I haven't seen that term used for the deaths in Gaza, its generally women and children killed that has been used

true, in gaza if you are male and non combatant you don't really count. In Israel there is conscription and more Female IDF so speaking in women and children isn't as clear.

So just use it for Israeli deaths as they have conscription? If you are an unarmed woman or child from any side you are still a woman or child.

I'm an ends doesn't justify the means type person, one loss of life is one too many. So many senseless deaths here over the years hasn't really got us any further, the shift in population will, and won't cause any deaths

I've no idea how they can solve the Gaza situation as Israel won't be going anywhere and the Palestinians will rebuild and have another generation of people that have been tortured/killed and locked up, mad cycle.

Unless there is a moderate government in Israel then this won't even be fixed in our lifetime

Milltown I know you are a let the palestinans continue to suffer under their occupation until the occupier decides otherwise guy. the west donw nothing for 75 years only arm and watch on as Israel every few years 'mows the lawn'... I support international  Law ans it allows resistence and that threshold for armed resistence is clearly been met for Palestinans to rise up against their oppressor and occupier and I fully support that. ( within international law)

if you are a non combatant you are a civilian etc. which would include men, women and children. As stated if you provide women and children for the Israeli dead many will be combantants, the Israeli dead is usually provided as a total including both, Palestinians are usually provided as women and children and a total number.

I think in terms of using sticks and stones in comparison to what Israel has to use against Palestine then you can uprise to the cows come home there will be only one outcome.

Nothing will be resolved unless they sit around a table, create the conditions for that and that's the best outcome 75 years will be 150 years and so on if they do not sit and discuss

I know you are they type of guy that sits at home on a computer type of guy and wave a flag maybe not use Israeli products but that won't stop non combatants from being obliterated 

I am that guy and more and understand how little impact it has but at least I fully support all legal efforts for palestinains while you sit at home on your computer happy for them to die slowing, and stupidly not know that palestinans have numerous times sat at those tables and been offered nothing and somehow speak to me as if you have some moral superiority...

Hamas are using their own civilians as human shields

They are as just much to blame for civilian deaths as the Israelis

So it's nothing to do with the big fúcking bombs the IDF are dropping on built up areas and even refugee camps?

Are Hamas also to blame for the Palestinians being killed on the West Bank?

Sweet Jesus!

[Can I ask if you believe Hamas murdered unarmed civilians on Oct 7th?]

All I see here are lots of lads with their eyes wide shut. You can't even entertain the possibility that Hamas fighters may have raped some women. The same fighters that were gunning down unarmed civilian. Do you deny that also? 

No one is doubting that Israel is a liar and has made up completely spurious stories regarding what happened. They can't help themselves. No one is denying that they are a shower of murdering genocidal criminals. They are cited in the ICC report for it.

But both the UN and ICC say they have grounds to believe sexual violence took place. I'll withhold judgement myself thanks. None of us have seen the evidence and neither have any of your favourite online news blogs.

where have I or anyone not entertained it? I have been consistent and twice in the last 3 posts have said sexual assaults happen in all conflicts... Amit Soussana is the only potential creditable report. the AP (maybe they might meet your standard of reporting) yesterday have a laughable debunking of two Zaka fake claims which were are are widely reported.

again yesterday widely shared on social media was the a video of idf soldiers being captured with fake translation associated with it, already debunked.

you stay ignoring rape by Israelis, torture, genocide, ethic cleansing and keep to to the zionist talking points.

I've said Israel are criminals and committing genocide.

I note also the UN report cited Israeli soldiers for sexual violence and threats at checkpoints. You accept those UN findings, right?

you have 50 posts, under this name (you might be a regeneration of a previously banned poster) and on this topic your focus is zionist talking points.

I dont need UN findings, there is testimonials by former soldiers and current solider admitting it, there is media reporting. The IDF have raped around the world and even their own within the IDF..

What Zionist talking points do you mean exactly?

I didn't intend to get into this argument, I merely brought up that rape was a part of the ICC citation against Hamas members when someone else described the whole thing as debunked.

It's not much of a discussion board if you aren't allowed to have a discussion about certain topics.

1. you have ignore most if not all my questions
2. you have focus on the rape claims,

almost all Israeli claims have been debunked and these claims were printed in the NY times, across MSM and widely accepted before being debunked.

if you read beyond the headlines of the ICC and UN reports the language used and claims appear to be directly from the same debunked Israeli sources.. I have quoted the UN report numerous times now... the Israeli do not allow independent assessments either and no one into Gaza.

Well then, let's leave the rape claims aside. I've said I'm keeping an open mind about it because the UN and ICC have said they have credible evidence. Just because some website says they have been completely debunked doesn't make it so. I read the reports in full, not just the headlines.

Can I ask if you believe Hamas murdered unarmed civilians on Oct 7th? Or it that a taboo 'Zionist talking point' as well?

They undoubtedly did kill unarmed Israeli civilians as well as 300 plus IDF personnel, but do you accept that some of the Israelis killed and burned to death that day was also caused by their very own IDF?

And do you accept that the IDF have been killing Palestinian civilians and journalists regularly before Oct 7th?

Liverpool and Arsenal are 2000/1 to be relegated next season.

Manchester City who are aiming for 5 titles in a row are 25/1.

They are obviously pricing in the 115 charges.

They must be looking to dock the 60 points or more then!

The young Offaly fans are mad to get on the field to celebrate.

Got a replay in '98, could have cost a win tonight. Thankfully it didn't. Great win

Was there ordinary time still to be played?

I suspect the Leinster council, nor the Portlaoise officials expected such a crowd and were short on stewards.