Croke Park residents legal bid to halt Garth Brooks concerts?

[deiseach]

no, what I think and know is, no one drinks quite like we do, therefore no one lashs quite like we do. 400 000, good percentage travelling to the capital, carry outs on the go. This will quite literally be a lash fest. I for one wouldnt fancy 5 days of it. I take it you live a safe distance away??

Steady on, this isn't the Féile in Thurles. People will be going home or to a hotel/guest house after the concert, not back to a tent.

[J OGorman]

The super bowl is a week long event, what's hard to understand about that?

Sorry, I was confused. When you said that it "springs to mind", I thought you maybe knew a lot about it but instead you just spewed out some wishy washy crap that you aren't sure about.

I get you now. When the Superbowl is on, 80 odd thousand people head to the stadium in a residential area every day for a week.

Fair enough.

Grand, glad I know I'm now dealing with someone who can't discuss a topic in a civil manner. This coming from a man who claims this will be a living hell though you don't live in the Croke Park area. Perhaps you can inform us all of what level of expertise are you bringing to this discussion, especially relating to Croke Park considering you don't live there?

I have been to concerts, festivals etc and I have seen what goes on. If that was going on outside my front door for 5 days solid, I would go fcukin spare.

So you've no expertise, perfect. Maybe now we've established that you can give other people's views the consideration they deserve. I've been to concerts and festivals too and festivals are very different to concerts, even ones which are repeated over a few days. A dance concert would be a bit different to an easy listening concert (different crowd, age profile etc.) and would imagine a Brooks crowd will a bit older and more restrained than a Jay Z crowd for example.

I wouldn't fancy a 5 day concert myself but if I lived near Croke Park then it would be part of the deal, it might not be the greatest 5 days of their year but a living hell? Hardly.

Id hazard a guess that the age profile will be much younger than you think, the young ones are mad for the country and western, plus, and very importantly, much like 'black eye friday' before Christmas, you will have coach loads of ones who rarely get out the door, so will be making the very most of it

[J OGorman]

no, what I think and know is, no one drinks quite like we do, therefore no one lashs quite like we do. 400 000, good percentage travelling to the capital, carry outs on the go. This will quite literally be a lash fest. I for one wouldnt fancy 5 days of it. I take it you live a safe distance away??

Steady on, this isn't the Féile in Thurles. People will be going home or to a hotel/guest house after the concert, not back to a tent.

you've lost me...did i say they are hanging about after the show?

[J OGorman]

I live 150 miles away...not sure why I'm remotely interested in the Dubs welfare and for that reason, I'm ooooooot. Look after no. 1

[deiseach]

no, what I think and know is, no one drinks quite like we do, therefore no one lashs quite like we do. 400 000, good percentage travelling to the capital, carry outs on the go. This will quite literally be a lash fest. I for one wouldnt fancy 5 days of it. I take it you live a safe distance away??

Steady on, this isn't the Féile in Thurles. People will be going home or to a hotel/guest house after the concert, not back to a tent.

you've lost me...did i say they are hanging about after the show?

People either have to travel home or go to places where it isn't acceptable to turn up worse for wear. Sure, some people are going to lose the run of themselves but most people will proceed on the basis that there are limits to how badly they can behave. I think you are overstating the likelihood of widespread drunkenness.

[AZOffaly]

It's not a 5 day festival. It's 5 days of the same concert. The people going to the concert each night will be leaving afterwards. They are not camping on the Clonliffe Road waiting for the next day and getting smashed on Southern Comfort.

[Farrandeelin]

I'm a resident and it'll be a pain in the balls on the Monday and Tuesday getting home from work. Matches are grand because they are on weekends and during the day. 5 days of crowds similar to AI final day will be bananas. I'm taking my holidays on the Friday and getting the fcuk out of there.
As hardstation said, people are well more tanked up going to concerts than matches.

I thought you'd have a Garth Brooks flag out the window...

[Zulu]

The super bowl is a week long event, what's hard to understand about that?

Sorry, I was confused. When you said that it "springs to mind", I thought you maybe knew a lot about it but instead you just spewed out some wishy washy crap that you aren't sure about.

I get you now. When the Superbowl is on, 80 odd thousand people head to the stadium in a residential area every day for a week.

Fair enough.

Grand, glad I know I'm now dealing with someone who can't discuss a topic in a civil manner. This coming from a man who claims this will be a living hell though you don't live in the Croke Park area. Perhaps you can inform us all of what level of expertise are you bringing to this discussion, especially relating to Croke Park considering you don't live there?

I have been to concerts, festivals etc and I have seen what goes on. If that was going on outside my front door for 5 days solid, I would go fcukin spare.

I wouldn't fancy a 5 day concert myself

That's all that matters. Thanks.

So you don't understand the points being made?

[Zulu]

Some amazingly mean-spirited comments on here, especially when you consider the most restrained comments are from the one person (that we know of) directly impacted by the concerts. Wind yer necks in.

Not sure mean spirited is a fair comment on the vast majority of views, though there are a few 'colourful' remarks alright. While I'd accept it's hard to comment unless you live there or close to a major stadium yourself, it does appear to me that the CP residents are a particularly belligerent crowd. If this was the first time they've complained about something I'd say one thing but they seem to complain about everything. I live in a city that regularly holds festivals and major events and I've never once heard about residents complaining. Likewise, other cities seem to be able to hold these events with less hassle, New Orleans or any city holding the super bowl spring to mind.

I have some sympathy for the residents but comments like a 'living hell' or 'turning Croke Park into one big toilet' seem like gross exaggerations of what will happen. I know one or two going to this and I would say they reflect a significant % of those going (30+, fond of a few pints and chronic taste in music) and they'll cause no hassle to the residents.

here, its not a million miles away from the truth. On concert day, every alley way / hidden spot  is filled with lads, and the odd lassie emptying the bladder (I've done it myself much to my eternal shame). Imagine a swarm of beer filled revellers being let out at your house to relieve themselves. Its grand for outsiders looking in who wont directly be affected to pour scorn on the locals. The odd concert every now and then, but 5 nights, sweet jesus, the walls will be green

There will be toilet facilities there won't there? I'm not saying the residents won't have to deal with some issues but not everyone will be defecating everywhere. How do other cities hold these events, how can countries hold Olympics, world cups etc. if these events are such a horrible experience for anyone living around a host stadium?

we're talking about Ireland here

So you think we are all pig ignorant morons? We have a few of those alright but many of those going won't fall into that category.

no, what I think and know is, no one drinks quite like we do, therefore no one lashs quite like we do. 400 000, good percentage travelling to the capital, carry outs on the go. This will quite literally be a lash fest. I for one wouldnt fancy 5 days of it. I take it you live a safe distance away??

I do, but I live in a city that hosts many events and everyone seems to be able to make it through them with their houses intact and their sanity assured. I really think you're taking the worst of the crowd and making out they will be in the vast majority. Even when I was younger and on those buses we drank too much but we weren't pissing in gardens and humping on people's cars, at least I wasn't maybe some of my mates were having a better time I don't know!

[Zulu]

So you don't understand the point, ok.

[Zulu]

With what?

[Jeepers Creepers]

Getting like a conversation in the TV room of an old peoples home. Who, what? Never said a thing.

[easytiger95]

"Panic on the streets of dublin  !

I remember going down to the Feile when they staged it in Pairc Ui Chaoimh rather than Thurles, to see the Roses - and it was a far more sedate affair than the carnage in Tipp. It was all contained around the venue, people dispersed fairly quickly to pubs, clubs, campsites, bus/train stations etc

Cities and their environs absorb the crowds far better than places like Thurles or Punchestown - it won't get as bad as Oxegen, or even some of the concerts in the Park.

I think if you're a resident of the area, at some stage you've made a choice to be there - the development of the stadium was incremental, everyone knew these kind of gigs were a possibility (though I'd be happy enough if they limited it to three nights in a row, as a compromise). Croke Park falls over themselves to compensate them - the threat of injunction is just the first move in the negotiations.

[Eamonnca1]

[ballinaman]

It's all about hustling for more money and tickets. The GAA used to give residents match tickets and they went out touting them.

The locals will make a fortune minding people's cars who want to park in the surrounding streets.

Stop talking through your hole with ya. You need a Garda residents car pass to get through the barriers on match day. You have to show proof of address in Fitzgibbon Street station to get one.

That's only on a couple of roads like Clonliffe and Jones.
I've parked 1/2 a mile away from Croke Park and had local scumbags collecting protection money for the pleasure.

Only residents inside barriers are people who are on the committee so you were just dealing with Dublin locals there.