Rugby world cup

[The Real Laoislad]

Watching South Africa v Tonga
Tonga done their version of The Haka before the match just wondered what happens when they play New Zealand?
Do they both do their respective Hakas at the same time or what?

THe Haka and the Sipi Tau are both awesome!

NZ and Tonga met in the 2003 World Cup and this is what happened:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eGCsEQ15L4&mode=related&search

Some way top start a match eh?

sure beats irelands fall sorry i mean irelands call

Maybe we could have them Irish dancing?

Or maybe they could all do the Birdie song

[the Deel Rover]

or they could just line up and swamp 15 pints of Guinness and start shouting go on ya good thing at each other

[Hardy]

We've come for pay, we've come to cower,
Come to be dour and be boring.
We have come to fumble and drop the ball
From the four paid franchises of Ireland.

Ireland, Ireland, we've neither guts nor balls.
Shoulder to shoulder, we'll stumble, trip and fall.
We'll stumble trip and fall.

[pintsofguinness]

I suppose we can be happy ROG doesn't have a poncey stand before kicking.

[Bord na Mona man]

We've come for pay, we've come to cower,
Come to be dour and be boring.
We have come to fumble and drop the ball
From the four paid franchises of Ireland.

Ireland, Ireland, we've neither guts nor balls.
Shoulder to shoulder, we'll stumble, trip and fall.
We'll stumble trip and fall.

Excellent!

[tyroneboi]

Probably been asked before but if ireland beat argentina with a bonus point do they go through? is it point difference or what?

[tyroneboi]

just found out lads:

At the completion of the pool phase, the Teams in a pool are ranked one through five
based on their cumulative Match points, and identified respectively as winner, runner
up, third, fourth and fifth.

If at the completion of the pool phase two or more Teams are level on Match points,
then the following criteria shall be used in the following order until one of the Teams
can be determined as the higher ranked:

i. The winner of the Match in which the two tied Teams have played each other
shall be the higher ranked;

ii. The Team which has the best difference between points scored for and points
scored against in all its pool Matches shall be the higher ranked;

iii. The Team which has the best difference between tries scored for and tries
scored against in all its pool Matches shall be the higher ranked;

iv. The Team which has scored most points in all its pool Matches shall be the
higher ranked;

v. The Team which has scored most tries in all its pool Matches shall be the
higher ranked;

vi. Should the tie be unresolved at the conclusion of steps (i) through (v), the Team
that is higher ranked in the updated Official IRB World Rankings on October 1,
2007.

Unlikely we will do it but stranger things have happened. The Munster boys have shown they can do it in the past - they have to step up to the plate now!!

[Homer]

Its Argentina 32 - 3 Namibia with 51 minutes played. The Argies already have their 4 tries and thus the bonus point.

[dec]

With Argentina clinching the bonus point against Namibia we now need to beat Argentina by at least eight points and score four tries. I suspect nether will happen.

[Gnevin]

44-3 depressing how good we made this team look

[pintsofguinness]

With Argentina clinching the bonus point against Namibia we now need to beat Argentina by at least eight points and score four tries. I suspect nether will happen.

I'd say Argentina scoring four tries and beating us by eight points would be more like it!

Hopefully anyway, we're embarrassed enough without playing the All Blacks!

[hoopsaaa]

Really down. I felt we had a chance at the start. Now i am not sure we are in the top 10 in the world.

[Gnevin]

Really down. I felt we had a chance at the start. Now i am not sure we are in the top 10 in the world.

I agree and in Rugby top 10 ain't saying much.

[magpie seanie]

We've come for pay, we've come to cower,
Come to be dour and be boring.
We have come to fumble and drop the ball
From the four paid franchises of Ireland.

Ireland, Ireland, we've neither guts nor balls.
Shoulder to shoulder, we'll stumble, trip and fall.
We'll stumble trip and fall.

Says it all. Irrefutable.

Hardy, you are a bit of a genius.

[Dinny Breen]

Very good Hardy 

As for the match itself, I haven't seen it on TV yet but from within the stadium it looked like Ireland's inability to score in the oppostion 22 was our biggest downfall that and every time France came into ours they came away with points on the board.

As for Eddie O'Sullivan I think I've made my opinions on this fraud well known, he is a limited coach who's only contibution to Irish rugby was to get the professional set-up organised, he hasn't helped develop any players and his inability to use a bench is criminal. He is a joke and should be removed immediately post-WC.

As for the players, they don't set out the game plan or pick the team but Eddie O'Sullivan created a them and us divide in the squad and moral cannot have been good which clearly showed on the pitch. IMHO only O'Driscoll can hold his head high, he is our only true class act and is a pity we don't have 14 more, our line-out failed miserably and O'Connell who again was poor has to take responsibilty for that, it was a shambles. O'Gara, Horgan and D'Arcy all need to be dropped, forme has completely deserted them. All in all we have nothing to lose against Argentina, I'd make sweeping changes, go for broke and at least show some pride and passion. My team to face Argentina...

15. Murphy
14. Carney
13. Trimble
12. O'Driscoll
11. Hickie
10. Wallace
9. Reddan
8. Easterby
7. Quinaln
6. Best
5. O'Kelly
4. O'Callaghan
3. Horan
2. Flannery
1. Hayes

For the record I was impressed by Reddan considering the service he got, might just change my mind on him yet...