Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

Started by Joxer, October 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM

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trailer

Quote from: NAG1 on May 17, 2023, 03:17:24 PM
I've tried to keep coming back to this fact on this thread but somehow it keeps being missed.

The money is for Casement, there is no remit at this stage to go back and say no Casement doesn't suit any more, we will spend it elsewhere or start a new project.

So it is either build Casement and work out the issues or have no stadium. Simple as that.

Correct. And the cost is irrelevant. Who cares if it costs 500m? The money will only be spunked on something else.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: trailer on May 18, 2023, 01:59:44 PM
Correct. And the cost is irrelevant. Who cares if it costs 500m? The money will only be spunked on something else.

Aye thats true.

Imagine if it were spent on a new wing on the RVH, or replacing a few schools that are falling apart at the seams.

That'd be just stupid.
i usse an speelchekor

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on May 17, 2023, 09:11:03 PM
Bring back  the railway vline to Clones.  Now , that would make  an enjoyable Ulster final day. Nobody   would care about  the roads  or parking then

It could happen! ;D

Would that be a cross border railway route? Who'd pay for that? Would there be much objections from the local farmers?  ;)
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

p3427977

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on May 18, 2023, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: trailer on May 18, 2023, 01:59:44 PM
Correct. And the cost is irrelevant. Who cares if it costs 500m? The money will only be spunked on something else.

Aye thats true.

Imagine if it were spent on a new wing on the RVH, or replacing a few schools that are falling apart at the seams.

That'd be just stupid.
The money for Casement is ring fenced. If it's not spent on Casement I'll go back into the pot and NI might not get a sniff of it.

markl121

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2023, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 17, 2023, 09:11:03 PM
Bring back  the railway vline to Clones.  Now , that would make  an enjoyable Ulster final day. Nobody   would care about  the roads  or parking then

It could happen! ;D

Would that be a cross border railway route? Who'd pay for that? Would there be much objections from the local farmers?  ;)
The railway to clones would service Belfast and where else? Newry? most of ulster wouldn't benefit.

armaghniac

Quote from: markl121 on May 18, 2023, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2023, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 17, 2023, 09:11:03 PM
Bring back  the railway vline to Clones.  Now , that would make  an enjoyable Ulster final day. Nobody   would care about  the roads  or parking then

It could happen! ;D

Would that be a cross border railway route? Who'd pay for that? Would there be much objections from the local farmers?  ;)
The railway to clones would service Belfast and where else? Newry? most of ulster wouldn't benefit.

Clones had lines to Enniskillen, Cavan, Armagh/Portadown and Dundalk (for Monaghan and South Armagh folk).
The line from Dundalk remained open for goods after regular passenger services stopped. My Da was on a special to the 1958 or perhaps 1959 Ulster final which was the last passenger train to run.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

smelmoth

Quote from: armaghniac on May 18, 2023, 08:50:02 PM
Quote from: markl121 on May 18, 2023, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2023, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 17, 2023, 09:11:03 PM
Bring back  the railway vline to Clones.  Now , that would make  an enjoyable Ulster final day. Nobody   would care about  the roads  or parking then

It could happen! ;D

Would that be a cross border railway route? Who'd pay for that? Would there be much objections from the local farmers?  ;)
The railway to clones would service Belfast and where else? Newry? most of ulster wouldn't benefit.

Clones had lines to Enniskillen, Cavan, Armagh/Portadown and Dundalk (for Monaghan and South Armagh folk).
The line from Dundalk remained open for goods after regular passenger services stopped. My Da was on a special to the 1958 or perhaps 1959 Ulster final which was the last passenger train to run.

How did he get home?

armaghniac

Quote from: smelmoth on May 18, 2023, 08:52:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 18, 2023, 08:50:02 PM
Quote from: markl121 on May 18, 2023, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2023, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 17, 2023, 09:11:03 PM
Bring back  the railway vline to Clones.  Now , that would make  an enjoyable Ulster final day. Nobody   would care about  the roads  or parking then

It could happen! ;D

Would that be a cross border railway route? Who'd pay for that? Would there be much objections from the local farmers?  ;)
The railway to clones would service Belfast and where else? Newry? most of ulster wouldn't benefit.

Clones had lines to Enniskillen, Cavan, Armagh/Portadown and Dundalk (for Monaghan and South Armagh folk).
The line from Dundalk remained open for goods after regular passenger services stopped. My Da was on a special to the 1958 or perhaps 1959 Ulster final which was the last passenger train to run.

How did he get home?

Very good. On the same train, of course, sure where could it go only back the same way since the hoors in Fermanagh had lifted the line.

ANd only 4/6 from Cullaville



If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

armaghniac

Rumour has it that Turkey has withdrawn, so the 2028 soccer thing will come here. Time to get the diggers into Casement.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

twohands!!!

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0728/1397010-joint-euro-2028-bid-strengthened-as-turkey-look-to-2032/

Turkey hasn't withdrawn but the odds would look to be massively likely now.

Previously the state of play was the UK/Ireland bid for 2028, Italy for 2032 and Turkey for either 2028 or 2032.

The fact that Turkey have now submitted a joint bid for 2032 means it looks very very likely it will be UK/Ireland for 2028 and the joint bid for 2032.

Looks like a Lotto win for the GAA in terms of funding Casement.

QuoteIreland and the UK's chances of hosting Euro 2028 appear to have improved significantly after UEFA confirmed Turkey and Italy had requested to merge their bids for Euro 2032.

It is understood Turkey have not withdrawn their bid to host Euro 2028, so remain a rival to the five-nation bid involving England, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

LeoMc

Quote from: markl121 on May 18, 2023, 08:47:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 18, 2023, 06:15:04 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on May 17, 2023, 09:11:03 PM
Bring back  the railway vline to Clones.  Now , that would make  an enjoyable Ulster final day. Nobody   would care about  the roads  or parking then

It could happen! ;D

Would that be a cross border railway route? Who'd pay for that? Would there be much objections from the local farmers?  ;)
The railway to clones would service Belfast and where else? Newry? most of ulster wouldn't benefit.
Based on the new rail report the train to Clones would carry on through Cavan, Mullingar, Athlone, Athenry to Galway.
That would have covered a fair number of Armaghs games this year.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: twohands!!! on July 28, 2023, 01:34:31 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0728/1397010-joint-euro-2028-bid-strengthened-as-turkey-look-to-2032/

Turkey hasn't withdrawn but the odds would look to be massively likely now.

Previously the state of play was the UK/Ireland bid for 2028, Italy for 2032 and Turkey for either 2028 or 2032.

The fact that Turkey have now submitted a joint bid for 2032 means it looks very very likely it will be UK/Ireland for 2028 and the joint bid for 2032.

Looks like a Lotto win for the GAA in terms of funding Casement.

QuoteIreland and the UK's chances of hosting Euro 2028 appear to have improved significantly after UEFA confirmed Turkey and Italy had requested to merge their bids for Euro 2032.

It is understood Turkey have not withdrawn their bid to host Euro 2028, so remain a rival to the five-nation bid involving England, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

An unopposed run means they don't need votes. I can see the IFA being thrown overboard as they bring absolutely nothing to the party. Why put Whitehall on the hook when there are 20 English cities who could host at zero cost?

armaghniac

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 01, 2023, 01:34:30 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 28, 2023, 01:34:31 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0728/1397010-joint-euro-2028-bid-strengthened-as-turkey-look-to-2032/

Turkey hasn't withdrawn but the odds would look to be massively likely now.

Previously the state of play was the UK/Ireland bid for 2028, Italy for 2032 and Turkey for either 2028 or 2032.

The fact that Turkey have now submitted a joint bid for 2032 means it looks very very likely it will be UK/Ireland for 2028 and the joint bid for 2032.

Looks like a Lotto win for the GAA in terms of funding Casement.

QuoteIreland and the UK's chances of hosting Euro 2028 appear to have improved significantly after UEFA confirmed Turkey and Italy had requested to merge their bids for Euro 2032.

It is understood Turkey have not withdrawn their bid to host Euro 2028, so remain a rival to the five-nation bid involving England, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

An unopposed run means they don't need votes. I can see the IFA being thrown overboard as they bring absolutely nothing to the party. Why put Whitehall on the hook when there are 20 English cities who could host at zero cost?

They are obliged to fund Casement anyway, the additional money is for some modifications to it. I expect that Whitehall will spend some money on this tournament, some work on grounds, some work on transport etc
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

trailer

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 01, 2023, 01:34:30 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 28, 2023, 01:34:31 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0728/1397010-joint-euro-2028-bid-strengthened-as-turkey-look-to-2032/

Turkey hasn't withdrawn but the odds would look to be massively likely now.

Previously the state of play was the UK/Ireland bid for 2028, Italy for 2032 and Turkey for either 2028 or 2032.

The fact that Turkey have now submitted a joint bid for 2032 means it looks very very likely it will be UK/Ireland for 2028 and the joint bid for 2032.

Looks like a Lotto win for the GAA in terms of funding Casement.

QuoteIreland and the UK's chances of hosting Euro 2028 appear to have improved significantly after UEFA confirmed Turkey and Italy had requested to merge their bids for Euro 2032.

It is understood Turkey have not withdrawn their bid to host Euro 2028, so remain a rival to the five-nation bid involving England, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

An unopposed run means they don't need votes. I can see the IFA being thrown overboard as they bring absolutely nothing to the party. Why put Whitehall on the hook when there are 20 English cities who could host at zero cost?

If they get the tournament they'll build it.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: trailer on August 01, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 01, 2023, 01:34:30 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on July 28, 2023, 01:34:31 PM
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023/0728/1397010-joint-euro-2028-bid-strengthened-as-turkey-look-to-2032/

Turkey hasn't withdrawn but the odds would look to be massively likely now.

Previously the state of play was the UK/Ireland bid for 2028, Italy for 2032 and Turkey for either 2028 or 2032.

The fact that Turkey have now submitted a joint bid for 2032 means it looks very very likely it will be UK/Ireland for 2028 and the joint bid for 2032.

Looks like a Lotto win for the GAA in terms of funding Casement.

QuoteIreland and the UK's chances of hosting Euro 2028 appear to have improved significantly after UEFA confirmed Turkey and Italy had requested to merge their bids for Euro 2032.

It is understood Turkey have not withdrawn their bid to host Euro 2028, so remain a rival to the five-nation bid involving England, Northern Ireland, the Republic of Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

An unopposed run means they don't need votes. I can see the IFA being thrown overboard as they bring absolutely nothing to the party. Why put Whitehall on the hook when there are 20 English cities who could host at zero cost?

If they get the tournament they'll build it.

Maybe. But the unopposed bit is important. The arithmetic has changed. The Nigels don't need Ireland anymore to market this. Nothing stopping it becoming a British only bid and ditching Dublin and Belfast - automatic qualification and there are 20 English cities that bring more to the party than Belfast,at no cost.