Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

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Walter Cronc

Quote from: Kidder81 on April 12, 2023, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 12, 2023, 05:26:18 PM
They'll tear down Old Trafford and rebuild it before Casement is done. Can never see it getting built at this rate. The DUP will just block and block

It's not just the DUP, GAA going to stump up their share ? There will need to be some back scratching at Stormont with the DUP for some of their "projects" to get them onside. 

Exactly. Some amount of new orange halls to make up 60 odd million. Until then we can expect to hear what about this, that and the other when discussing casement - schools, roads, hospitals etc.

Walter Cronc

Who is the other body? Tourism? Uefa are never going to stump it up! Private backer? Unlikely. It surely has to come from Stormont,?

AustinPowers

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 12, 2023, 06:13:11 PM
I'm not sure that the process being hoped for here has anything to do with the DUP. To my mind, the original £62 million is sitting there for this stadium and I'm assuming the GAA will stump up their £15 million. The planning approval is in place.

The extra money is never going to come from Stormont but possibly from another body who are pushing for the Euro bid.

What is it you think the DUP could object to? The release of the £62 million?

Speaking of money ,  I Just heard that  Biden was in the north 17 hours  and it cost £17 million .  Who's paying  for that?   At the same time,  police  numbers are to be reduced . That's a lot of police officers salaries there

17m is   about a  seventh of the 120m (so I hear) of casement cost

It's   funny   That money can be found when  it's  needed , yet they can't give  nurses a raise , nor find money for  kids meals

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Walter Cronc on April 12, 2023, 06:53:53 PM
Who is the other body? Tourism? Uefa are never going to stump it up! Private backer? Unlikely. It surely has to come from Stormont,?

I assume it will be as stark as if you want the games, build the venue. If you don't, don't. I would assume like PuCit would come with a soccer and rugby allowed string

thewobbler

Quote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2023, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 12, 2023, 06:13:11 PM
I'm not sure that the process being hoped for here has anything to do with the DUP. To my mind, the original £62 million is sitting there for this stadium and I'm assuming the GAA will stump up their £15 million. The planning approval is in place.

The extra money is never going to come from Stormont but possibly from another body who are pushing for the Euro bid.

What is it you think the DUP could object to? The release of the £62 million?

17m is a sound investment compared to leaving it up to Invest NI.

Speaking of money ,  I Just heard that  Biden was in the north 17 hours  and it cost £17 million .  Who's paying  for that?   At the same time,  police  numbers are to be reduced . That's a lot of police officers salaries there

17m is   about a  seventh of the 120m (so I hear) of casement cost

It's   funny   That money can be found when  it's  needed , yet they can't give  nurses a raise , nor find money for  kids meals

Main Street

Nurses & kids again.  No one ever thinks about the teachers. ;D

Sportacus

The shopping lists on all sides will be drawn up as part of the get back to Stormont choreography.  DUP will be pushing for money so they can do x, y and z.  Sinn Fein will factor Casement into their list.  This is where the new money will come from - Treasury.  Another pay off to get us out of their hair, (until the next time).

pbat

The DUP should have been taking a few billion of Europe to accept the protocol and sell it to there gang as win. But would rather eat a flag, shower of c**ts.

armaghniac

Quote from: Sportacus on April 12, 2023, 08:49:38 PM
The shopping lists on all sides will be drawn up as part of the get back to Stormont choreography.  DUP will be pushing for money so they can do x, y and z.  Sinn Fein will factor Casement into their list.  This is where the new money will come from - Treasury.  Another pay off to get us out of their hair, (until the next time).

They can probably swing this, there is the existing money and the London might be helping out to some extent with other Euro2028 expenditure, so can give them something under that heading. Perhaps Euro2028 can be used as an excuse to upgrade the Dublin-Belfast rail connection and some other things like that.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Armagh18

Quote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2023, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 12, 2023, 06:13:11 PM
I'm not sure that the process being hoped for here has anything to do with the DUP. To my mind, the original £62 million is sitting there for this stadium and I'm assuming the GAA will stump up their £15 million. The planning approval is in place.

The extra money is never going to come from Stormont but possibly from another body who are pushing for the Euro bid.

What is it you think the DUP could object to? The release of the £62 million?

Speaking of money ,  I Just heard that  Biden was in the north 17 hours  and it cost £17 million .  Who's paying  for that?   At the same time,  police  numbers are to be reduced . That's a lot of police officers salaries there

17m is   about a  seventh of the 120m (so I hear) of casement cost

It's   funny   That money can be found when  it's  needed , yet they can't give  nurses a raise , nor find money for  kids meals
Madness. Assume that comes from Stormonts budget? Madness.

Ed Ricketts

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2023, 10:54:34 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2023, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 12, 2023, 06:13:11 PM
I'm not sure that the process being hoped for here has anything to do with the DUP. To my mind, the original £62 million is sitting there for this stadium and I'm assuming the GAA will stump up their £15 million. The planning approval is in place.

The extra money is never going to come from Stormont but possibly from another body who are pushing for the Euro bid.

What is it you think the DUP could object to? The release of the £62 million?

Speaking of money ,  I Just heard that  Biden was in the north 17 hours  and it cost £17 million .  Who's paying  for that?   At the same time,  police  numbers are to be reduced . That's a lot of police officers salaries there

17m is   about a  seventh of the 120m (so I hear) of casement cost

It's   funny   That money can be found when  it's  needed , yet they can't give  nurses a raise , nor find money for  kids meals
Madness. Assume that comes from Stormonts budget? Madness.

The figure widely quoted was £7million, not £17million.

That's £7million out of ~£14billion. Or, about 0.05% of annual spend. Some would say that's fairly cheap for getting the leader of the world's largest economy into town for the night.
Doc would listen to any kind of nonsense and change it for you to a kind of wisdom.

weareros

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 12, 2023, 06:13:11 PM
I'm not sure that the process being hoped for here has anything to do with the DUP. To my mind, the original £62 million is sitting there for this stadium and I'm assuming the GAA will stump up their £15 million. The planning approval is in place.

The extra money is never going to come from Stormont but possibly from another body who are pushing for the Euro bid.

What is it you think the DUP could object to? The release of the £62 million?

Soccer also got an equivalent amount and £25m already went to Windsor despite IFA putting up very little compared to GAA's commitment to fork out £15m on top of the £62m to upgrade Casement. The rest of the soccer allocation is due to the clubs. That's the only thing the DUP can complain about if that is held back. It won't be if Assembly returns.

AustinPowers

Quote from: Ed Ricketts on April 12, 2023, 11:22:58 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2023, 10:54:34 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2023, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 12, 2023, 06:13:11 PM
I'm not sure that the process being hoped for here has anything to do with the DUP. To my mind, the original £62 million is sitting there for this stadium and I'm assuming the GAA will stump up their £15 million. The planning approval is in place.

The extra money is never going to come from Stormont but possibly from another body who are pushing for the Euro bid.

What is it you think the DUP could object to? The release of the £62 million?

Speaking of money ,  I Just heard that  Biden was in the north 17 hours  and it cost £17 million .  Who's paying  for that?   At the same time,  police  numbers are to be reduced . That's a lot of police officers salaries there

17m is   about a  seventh of the 120m (so I hear) of casement cost

It's   funny   That money can be found when  it's  needed , yet they can't give  nurses a raise , nor find money for  kids meals
Madness. Assume that comes from Stormonts budget? Madness.

The figure widely quoted was £7million, not £17million.

That's £7million out of ~£14billion. Or, about 0.05% of annual spend. Some would say that's fairly cheap for getting the leader of the world's largest economy into town for the night.

That's great   ::)

£7m or £17m , it hardly matters. An  absurd amount  of money, and  for what?  So  that some people can stand in the  rain  to wave  at a man in a car with blacked out  windows?

Wildweasel74

Well with cost be specific, don't pull a price out of thin air. As for Casement, the cost be, £110 Millon +, so unless the, GAA throwing £25 million to match the stormont increase, that white horse will never get off the ground. Not a lost to Ulster to be honest but it affects Antrim Fball and Hurling alot.

Armagh18

Quote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2023, 11:41:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Ricketts on April 12, 2023, 11:22:58 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 12, 2023, 10:54:34 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 12, 2023, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on April 12, 2023, 06:13:11 PM
I'm not sure that the process being hoped for here has anything to do with the DUP. To my mind, the original £62 million is sitting there for this stadium and I'm assuming the GAA will stump up their £15 million. The planning approval is in place.

The extra money is never going to come from Stormont but possibly from another body who are pushing for the Euro bid.

What is it you think the DUP could object to? The release of the £62 million?

Speaking of money ,  I Just heard that  Biden was in the north 17 hours  and it cost £17 million .  Who's paying  for that?   At the same time,  police  numbers are to be reduced . That's a lot of police officers salaries there

17m is   about a  seventh of the 120m (so I hear) of casement cost

It's   funny   That money can be found when  it's  needed , yet they can't give  nurses a raise , nor find money for  kids meals
Madness. Assume that comes from Stormonts budget? Madness.

The figure widely quoted was £7million, not £17million.

That's £7million out of ~£14billion. Or, about 0.05% of annual spend. Some would say that's fairly cheap for getting the leader of the world's largest economy into town for the night.

That's great   ::)

£7m or £17m , it hardly matters. An  absurd amount  of money, and  for what?  So  that some people can stand in the  rain  to wave  at a man in a car with blacked out  windows?
Would love to see a break down of that spend, can't get my head around how you could spend so much for so little time.