Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

Started by Joxer, October 06, 2010, 02:42:28 PM

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five points

Amazing how no heads have rolled within the GAA over this disaster.

Walter Cronc

Who are the guilty parties?

Who in the Ulster Council should face the chop?


snoopdog

I think the stand was a health and safety issue.  Not enough exits. Dark narrow exits that did exist. But it couldve been kept open until the bulldozers were ready. Was handy for school and club games if not fit for county.

Antrim Coaster

The electrics in the stand was the issue.Belfast City Council would not issue the safety certificate until the electrics in the stand were rewired. As Antrim were of the opinion the project was starting they let the safety certificate run out as it would have cost £10000 to complete the repairs.Ulster Council are responsible for the present state of Casement Park and they've recently submitted another application for a  34000 capacity stadium which in my opinion is another farce.

Will it ever end

I see there's an article with Justin McNulty MLA in the Irish news - the Ulster Council have obviously decided to force the planners hands by bringing a concerted media campaign calling for a decision.  Justin particularly notable given he's elected & members of his own party sit on the planning committee at Belfast City Council.

marty34

Quote from: Will it ever end on November 28, 2019, 07:19:59 AM
I see there's an article with Justin McNulty MLA in the Irish news - the Ulster Council have obviously decided to force the planners hands by bringing a concerted media campaign calling for a decision.  Justin particularly notable given he's elected & members of his own party sit on the planning committee at Belfast City Council.

Something needs to be done - well over 1000 days since the ground was closed up.  Ulster Council must be getting the push on and rightly so.

It's like one that question in The Blame Game - Who's to blame.....for the Casement Park fiasco?

Walter Cronc

If capacity had been say 30k, would that have got it over the line.

Was the GAA's insistence (greed) at setting it at 34k the main reason for failure?

five points

Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 28, 2019, 09:41:40 AM
If capacity had been say 30k, would that have got it over the line.

Was the GAA's insistence (greed) at setting it at 34k the main reason for failure?

The entire justification for the project from the outset was that it would be able to comfortably host Ulster finals. That no longer holds at 30k capacity.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: five points on November 28, 2019, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 28, 2019, 09:41:40 AM
If capacity had been say 30k, would that have got it over the line.

Was the GAA's insistence (greed) at setting it at 34k the main reason for failure?

The entire justification for the project from the outset was that it would be able to comfortably host Ulster finals. That no longer holds at 30k capacity.

Bollocks.

The entire justification (in the minds of the Ulster Council) would be that they could hold conc€rt$ at it.


Nothing else justifies such an over-specified white elephant.
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five points

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on November 28, 2019, 10:48:11 AM
Quote from: five points on November 28, 2019, 10:45:31 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on November 28, 2019, 09:41:40 AM
If capacity had been say 30k, would that have got it over the line.

Was the GAA's insistence (greed) at setting it at 34k the main reason for failure?

The entire justification for the project from the outset was that it would be able to comfortably host Ulster finals. That no longer holds at 30k capacity.

Bollocks.

The entire justification (in the minds of the Ulster Council) would be that they could hold conc€rt$ at it.


Nothing else justifies such an over-specified white elephant.

Why then has Clones barely got even a lick of paint in the meantime?

trailer

Quote from: marty34 on November 28, 2019, 09:34:24 AM
Quote from: Will it ever end on November 28, 2019, 07:19:59 AM
I see there's an article with Justin McNulty MLA in the Irish news - the Ulster Council have obviously decided to force the planners hands by bringing a concerted media campaign calling for a decision.  Justin particularly notable given he's elected & members of his own party sit on the planning committee at Belfast City Council.

Something needs to be done - well over 1000 days since the ground was closed up.  Ulster Council must be getting the push on and rightly so.

It's like one that question in The Blame Game - Who's to blame.....for the Casement Park fiasco?

Residents and local politicians in West Belfast who have objected at every turnaround. NIMBY

five points

Quote from: trailer on November 28, 2019, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 28, 2019, 09:34:24 AM
Quote from: Will it ever end on November 28, 2019, 07:19:59 AM
I see there's an article with Justin McNulty MLA in the Irish news - the Ulster Council have obviously decided to force the planners hands by bringing a concerted media campaign calling for a decision.  Justin particularly notable given he's elected & members of his own party sit on the planning committee at Belfast City Council.

Something needs to be done - well over 1000 days since the ground was closed up.  Ulster Council must be getting the push on and rightly so.

It's like one that question in The Blame Game - Who's to blame.....for the Casement Park fiasco?

Residents and local politicians in West Belfast who have objected at every turnaround. NIMBY

The fiasco isn't that the new stadium hasn't been built. It is that the old one was prematurely demolished. Residents and local bigwigs had no part in that decision.

Sportacus

Everyone knows Croke Park can be soulless unless it's packed.  I dread to think what Antrim club games will fee like in such a big stadium.  IMO a whole bunch of people got carried away with themselves and now they can't get down off the ledge.  It's totally inappropriate for Antrim GAA who need a small modern stadium which can generate atmosphere.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: trailer on November 28, 2019, 12:34:49 PM
Quote from: marty34 on November 28, 2019, 09:34:24 AM
Quote from: Will it ever end on November 28, 2019, 07:19:59 AM
I see there's an article with Justin McNulty MLA in the Irish news - the Ulster Council have obviously decided to force the planners hands by bringing a concerted media campaign calling for a decision.  Justin particularly notable given he's elected & members of his own party sit on the planning committee at Belfast City Council.

Something needs to be done - well over 1000 days since the ground was closed up.  Ulster Council must be getting the push on and rightly so.

It's like one that question in The Blame Game - Who's to blame.....for the Casement Park fiasco?

Residents and local politicians in West Belfast who have objected at every turnaround. NIMBY

Do you think a stadium of that magnitude and the additional usage required could work on that site?

Local residents didn't file deliberately falsified H&S reports either