Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

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five points

Quote from: cjx on October 02, 2018, 10:39:20 AM
Will GAA or anyone be allowed give major grants to non EU state after Brexit

???

Bizarre question. What the GAA does with it's own money is no business of any government.

thebuzz

Quote from: Orchard park on September 06, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: five points on September 06, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
Quote...our members throughout Ulster and further afield should not be disadvantaged by the ongoing absence of a modern fit for purpose home for the GAA in the city of Belfast.

A mower. Two sets of goalposts. Some line paint. About five dozen terrace barriers.

Then open up the bloody place again for 2019 at least.

Correct

It probably wouldn't be just that simple because of the damage done but a few grand should definitely get it playable and it appears to be the only feasible option at the moment.

I'm sure it's been said multiple times but it was such a major mistake starting any site work before the whole thing was passed.

Evil Genius

According to an informed source on another forum, "Construction inflation will have gone up 17% from when the first business case was developed until the fourth quarter of 2019, which might be the earliest Casement could go out to tender."

Which means the GAA could have to find another £13m (minimum) to fund their contribution to the £77m(?) cost originally envisaged, unless they seriously scale back the original plan.

Which would at least suit the local residents*.


* - Or "West Belfast's West Brits", as another poster (bizarrely) termed them.  :)
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

Evil Genius

Quote from: thebuzz on October 02, 2018, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 06, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: five points on September 06, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
Quote...our members throughout Ulster and further afield should not be disadvantaged by the ongoing absence of a modern fit for purpose home for the GAA in the city of Belfast.

A mower. Two sets of goalposts. Some line paint. About five dozen terrace barriers.

Then open up the bloody place again for 2019 at least.

Correct

It probably wouldn't be just that simple because of the damage done but a few grand should definitely get it playable and it appears to be the only feasible option at the moment.
It really isn't that simple.

For example, Glentoran's ground, The Oval, could realistically accommodate 25k, but H&S/Council licensing currently restricts it to 6,050. And whilst it's been "on life support" for some years now, it's still in considerably better condition than Casement:

"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

five points

Quote from: Evil Genius on October 02, 2018, 11:54:41 AM
It really isn't that simple.

For example, Glentoran's ground, The Oval, could realistically accommodate 25k, but H&S/Council licensing currently restricts it to 6,050. And whilst it's been "on life support" for some years now, it's still in considerably better condition than Casement:

A stadium fit to accommodate even a few thousand would be a godsend to Antrim at the moment. All they have from Casement right now is a few dozen bales of hay.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Evil Genius on October 02, 2018, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: thebuzz on October 02, 2018, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 06, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: five points on September 06, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
Quote...our members throughout Ulster and further afield should not be disadvantaged by the ongoing absence of a modern fit for purpose home for the GAA in the city of Belfast.

A mower. Two sets of goalposts. Some line paint. About five dozen terrace barriers.

Then open up the bloody place again for 2019 at least.

Correct

It probably wouldn't be just that simple because of the damage done but a few grand should definitely get it playable and it appears to be the only feasible option at the moment.
It really isn't that simple.

For example, Glentoran's ground, The Oval, could realistically accommodate 25k, but H&S/Council licensing currently restricts it to 6,050. And whilst it's been "on life support" for some years now, it's still in considerably better condition than Casement:


As Antrim are sometimes (erroneously) referred to as "The Glensmen", is there any chance of a ground share?  :D

johnnycool

Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 02, 2018, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on October 02, 2018, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: thebuzz on October 02, 2018, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 06, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: five points on September 06, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
Quote...our members throughout Ulster and further afield should not be disadvantaged by the ongoing absence of a modern fit for purpose home for the GAA in the city of Belfast.

A mower. Two sets of goalposts. Some line paint. About five dozen terrace barriers.

Then open up the bloody place again for 2019 at least.

Correct

It probably wouldn't be just that simple because of the damage done but a few grand should definitely get it playable and it appears to be the only feasible option at the moment.
It really isn't that simple.

For example, Glentoran's ground, The Oval, could realistically accommodate 25k, but H&S/Council licensing currently restricts it to 6,050. And whilst it's been "on life support" for some years now, it's still in considerably better condition than Casement:


As Antrim are sometimes (erroneously) referred to as "The Glensmen", is there any chance of a ground share?  :D

Groundshare in Co Down??


Evil Genius

Quote from: johnnycool on October 02, 2018, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 02, 2018, 02:07:44 PM
As Antrim are sometimes (erroneously) referred to as "The Glensmen", is there any chance of a ground share?  :D
Groundshare in Co Down??


I'd always have said it was Co.Down, but now I'm not so sure:

https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/2wfpmm/belfast_where_is_the_downantrim_border/
https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2056532564?


Mind you, I'd guess the GAA uses the (traditional) boundary of the Lagan.

Shame, since that's probably the only thing stopping Antrim GAA using "The Home of Football"  ;)
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: johnnycool on September 06, 2018, 04:30:07 PM
This stadium won't survive on GAA games alone

Sorry, what? Why?

If it is getting built for free, how can it not survive on GAA games alone?

If it were not a daft all singing all dancing white elephant, it'd quite easily survive on GAA games alone.

If they built the new Casement to roughly copy the format of the Athletic Grounds, how could it not survive on GAA games alone and how would it not be entirely suitable for Antrim?


[It'd also be small enough in stature not to piss off the residents as well as retain terracing so maintenance costs are kept down and ticket pricing can be tiered lower than with an all-seater.]
i usse an speelchekor

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: five points on October 02, 2018, 12:35:32 PM
A stadium fit to accommodate even a few thousand would be a godsend to Antrim at the moment. All they have from Casement right now is a few dozen bales of hay.

Have ye not seen the ragweed in it?

Them bales are fit for burning and little else!  8)
i usse an speelchekor

spuds

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on October 02, 2018, 09:02:08 PM
Quote from: five points on October 02, 2018, 12:35:32 PM
A stadium fit to accommodate even a few thousand would be a godsend to Antrim at the moment. All they have from Casement right now is a few dozen bales of hay.

Have ye not seen the ragweed in it?

Them bales are fit for burning and little else!  8)
Did they get second cut silage in this year?
"As I get older I notice the years less and the seasons more."
John Hubbard

omaghjoe

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on October 02, 2018, 09:02:08 PM
Quote from: five points on October 02, 2018, 12:35:32 PM
A stadium fit to accommodate even a few thousand would be a godsend to Antrim at the moment. All they have from Casement right now is a few dozen bales of hay.

Have ye not seen the ragweed in it?

Them bales are fit for burning and little else!  8)

Are they not benweeds?

Never beat the deeler

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 03, 2018, 04:14:59 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on October 02, 2018, 09:02:08 PM
Quote from: five points on October 02, 2018, 12:35:32 PM
A stadium fit to accommodate even a few thousand would be a godsend to Antrim at the moment. All they have from Casement right now is a few dozen bales of hay.

Have ye not seen the ragweed in it?

Them bales are fit for burning and little else!  8)

Are they not benweeds?

An buathaláin buí,

It's glory is seen,

Some call it a weed,

and a weed it may be,

but not to the fairies,

An buathaláin buí.
Hasta la victoria siempre

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: spuds on October 03, 2018, 01:02:46 AM
Did they get second cut silage in this year?

Don't think so. Locals were complaining about the noise of the machinery. Some cowboy must have opened the fuel pump a bit too much on his yoke when baling the first cut.
i usse an speelchekor

cjx

Quote from: Tony Baloney on October 02, 2018, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on October 02, 2018, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: thebuzz on October 02, 2018, 11:43:17 AM
Quote from: Orchard park on September 06, 2018, 05:59:54 PM
Quote from: five points on September 06, 2018, 02:09:29 PM
Quote...our members throughout Ulster and further afield should not be disadvantaged by the ongoing absence of a modern fit for purpose home for the GAA in the city of Belfast.

A mower. Two sets of goalposts. Some line paint. About five dozen terrace barriers.

Then open up the bloody place again for 2019 at least.

Correct

It probably wouldn't be just that simple because of the damage done but a few grand should definitely get it playable and it appears to be the only feasible option at the moment.
It really isn't that simple.

For example, Glentoran's ground, The Oval, could realistically accommodate 25k, but H&S/Council licensing currently restricts it to 6,050. And whilst it's been "on life support" for some years now, it's still in considerably better condition than Casement:


As Antrim are sometimes (erroneously) referred to as "The Glensmen", is there any chance of a ground share?  :D
Andy Tyrie's youngfella says "NO"