Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[Applesisapples]

"Anti-GAA element" delaying Casement redevelopment - Carál Ní Chuilín


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32594781

Clueless politician way out of her depth more like.

Not that I dont agree with the above point you have made, but surely your previous post to this one negates anything you have to say outside of comment on Robinson & McGuinness.

Au contraire nag.

Between posts I did some intensive research on the bould Caral & came to the conclusion that she is both clueless & way out of her depth

Couldn't agree more and oul Mark H is not the sharpest tool in the box either.

[rosnarun]

"Anti-GAA element" delaying Casement redevelopment - Carál Ní Chuilín


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-32594781

Who?

Whil I presume you are trying to make a cheap point
Carál Ní Chuilín the Sports Minister , the person on the government side  who will control the Grant money,
No exactly a non entity in the process,
All I know is The ulster rugby team areplaying awayt in theior new ravenhill while the GAA Stadium is still only a pipe Dream

I wouldn't say its a cheap point at all.

Outside of Robinson & McGuinness I would struggle to name any Northern minister or public representative for that matter.

then that say more about widning disconnect between north and south ,  when the IRA and the English were killing wach other it all seemed very relevant.
Hrdstation that sounds more like a Gaa man moonlighting in Soccerland . Most scoccer clubs down here are runout of a field with a set of goal posts

[tyroneman]

Did CnC give any funding to Tyrone they for Garvaghey?

[rrhf]

Hillary Clinton put the pressure on there.. great woman.

[Minder]

Looks like Ní Chuilín caught lying through her teeth that herself or DCAL officials didn't know of safety concerns

[Tony Baloney]

Looks like Ní Chuilín caught lying through her teeth that herself or DCAL officials didn't know of safety concerns

Well there is a quare gap.

[Clinker]

Andersonstown News ‏@ATownNews  · 1 min1 minute ago 
Your texts: Sinn Féin caught out again. Using bullying tactics to push Casement Park through, putting people's safety at risk

Andersonstown News ‏@ATownNews  · 34 secs34 seconds ago 
Mála Poist: Casement Park and the elections dominate our letters page today

[Minder]

Andersonstown News ‏@ATownNews  · 1 min1 minute ago 
Your texts: Sinn Féin caught out again. Using bullying tactics to push Casement Park through, putting people's safety at risk

Andersonstown News ‏@ATownNews  · 34 secs34 seconds ago 
Mála Poist: Casement Park and the elections dominate our letters page today

Surprised the Andytown News printed anything critical of SF

[Clinker]

Andersonstown News ‏@ATownNews  · 1 min1 minute ago 
Your texts: Sinn Féin caught out again. Using bullying tactics to push Casement Park through, putting people's safety at risk

Andersonstown News ‏@ATownNews  · 34 secs34 seconds ago 
Mála Poist: Casement Park and the elections dominate our letters page today

Surprised the Andytown News printed anything critical of SF

That is how bad things are concerning Deathtrap Casement Park and everyone is aware of it.

[BluestackBoy]

Looks like SF's plans for Adams Memorial Park are coming unstuck.

[Applesisapples]

Looks like Ní Chuilín caught lying through her teeth that herself or DCAL officials didn't know of safety concerns

Somebody take the shovel off the feckin idiot.

Martin McGuinness has tweeted that the Irish News are to retract that story tomorrow.

[Clinker]

Please read below the full text of the STG (Safety Technical Group ) dated 13/11/14. At this time residents had brought the Judicial Review to the High Court and Judge Horner was considering his verdict. Questions arise as to why this was necessary as it is clear that the application did not comply with the Green Guide on safety. Can the public have answers as to why their safety was disregarded and how this application was passed."

Meeting Record of the Safety Technical Group (STG) for the Re Development of Casement Park held on 13.11.14 at the House of Sport
Present:
- Sport NI - Sport NI - Sport NI
- PSNI - NIFRS  - NIAS
- BCC - BCC
Apology - - GAA

XX opened the meeting and thanked everyone for attending. He noted that the last meeting of the SAG had been held in May 2014. He recounted the timeline of the involvement of the STG regarding the Casement project and that the last Report of the STG had been forwarded to DCAL on 16.10.13.

The Report of 16.10.13 was given to DCAL prior to a meeting at Causeway Exchange involving some of the members of the STG, DCAL, the GAA, and the Design Team. The meeting was called by DCAL to discuss STG concerns regarding emergency exiting, and the provision of uncovered seating at the proposed stadium and had included some robust discussions. DCAL had advised that an emergency exiting strategy would be forthcoming in the incoming weeks, along with the minutes of the meeting; however these documents have not been received by the STG some 13 months later. It was further noted that an emergency exiting strategy for the proposed stadium had been requested repeatedly by the STG since spring 2013. The plans that the STG provided comment on in the 16.10.13 Report had been forwarded to the Group in late summer 2013 - no further plans have been received for consideration by the STG since that time .

XX advised the Group of meetings that Sport NI had attended that involved DCAL and other agencies that had occurred since the May STG meeting, and of related correspondence etc.

It was noted that DCAL had advised Sport NI that an application for planning permission would not be forwarded, nor would the tendering process to select a Design and Build contractor be commenced before a design for the stadium had been approved by the STG. Both of these processes have now taken place despite agreement not having been reached.

XX advised that the Design and Build contract had been awarded to the Buckingham - Heron Group and of the tenor of a meeting held with representatives of the Group, DCAL, and the GAA held in June.

There was some discussion regarding the Judicial Review into the decision to approve planning permission for the proposed venue.

XX advised of meetings involving the PSNI, the GAA and DCAL that he had attended and of requests made for an emergency exiting strategy for the proposed venue. He noted that at a meeting held on 16.7.14 the GAA had advised the PSNI that an emergency exiting strategy would be provided by 28.8.14 however this document had not been received. He noted that the PSNI had advised the GAA that meetings regarding emergency exiting should involve all agencies represented on the STG.

XX advised of a further meeting held with representatives of the Buckingham Heron Group held in October when Sport NI were told that DCAL had advised the Buckingham Heron Group to speak to each organisation represented on the STG separately and not as a Group.

The Group noted the following:
• The last set of drawings issued to the STG for comment showed that the proposed stadium has a unique design with approximately 72% of the spectators exiting onto the Andersonstown Road - neither the Design Team or members of the STG are aware of any stadium in Great Britain with similar exiting arrangements,
• The last set of drawings submitted to the STG indicated that the stadium did not comply with the content of the Green Guide/ Red Guide, however it was noted that deviations from the content of these documents is permissible provided that an equal or greater level of safety is provided,
• The STG have been requesting an emergency exiting strategy since spring 2013 however this document has not been forthcoming,
• An incident on the Andersonstown Road to the front of the stadium during a fixture could result in some or all of the exits to the Andersonstown Road being unavailable.
• The likelihood of an incident that resulted in the 'loss' of exits during a fixture was low but was reasonably foreseeable.
• The 'loss' of exits to the Andersonstown Road at a well-attended fixture would be likely to result in an emergency exiting time (to a place of safety or reasonable safety) in excess of 8- minutes with attendant concerns relating to spectator safety,
• The rendezvous point for the emergency services is at present located on the Andersonstown Road to the 'city side' of Casement Park - this could lead to access difficulties for emergency vehicles if spectators were on the 'city side' of the Andersonstown Road following an evacuation of the stadium, and the rendezvous point could compromise spectator flow away from the stadium.
• There would be the potential for parking restrictions to be required in the roadways in the vicinity of the stadium depending on the emergency exiting strategy proposed
• The Group noted that although initial discussions relating to the development of the stadium could be discussed with Sport NI, they stated that any proposals for the development of the stadium should be considered by the STG collectively.

It was agreed that the STG would continue to request a copy of the emergency exiting strategy to permit comparison to be made against national guidance and comment accordingly.

The meeting concluded

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[BennyCake]

Is the money still available for Casement? If so, how long will it be available for?

It's getting ridiculous now really. Abandon the feckin thing.

How many folk in Ulster want to be travelling to big games in Belfast? I know I wouldn't be too happy doing that from Fermanagh, Donegal or Cavan and the likes.

[Applesisapples]

Looks like Ní Chuilín caught lying through her teeth that herself or DCAL officials didn't know of safety concerns

Somebody take the shovel off the feckin idiot.

Martin McGuinness has tweeted that the Irish News are to retract that story tomorrow.

No. He said that they will clarify their "inaccurate headline". The story is what it is - evidence that Ní Chuilín and DCAL were made aware on a number of occasions about the safety concerns which Ní Chuilín has claimed she only found out about recently.

OK I misread it. Time though that the Shinners started appointing on ability as opposed to the war record.

[omaghjoe]

Looks like Ní Chuilín caught lying through her teeth that herself or DCAL officials didn't know of safety concerns

Somebody take the shovel off the feckin idiot.

Martin McGuinness has tweeted that the Irish News are to retract that story tomorrow.

No. He said that they will clarify their "inaccurate headline". The story is what it is - evidence that Ní Chuilín and DCAL were made aware on a number of occasions about the safety concerns which Ní Chuilín has claimed she only found out about recently.

OK I misread it. Time though that the Shinners started appointing on ability as opposed to the war record.

That's the problem tho, anyone with ability is few and far between with the Shinners, people with ability don't want to associated with "combatants"