Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[trailer]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

f**k off

[seafoid]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Clones was redeveloped in the early 90s for £4.5 million. Even if you treble that for cost inflation it's less than £15m. £65m would still buy a decent pure GAA stadium but there wouldn't be any premium level.

The full monty Casement would be much better, obviously.

If it was built would the soccer crowd demand the same for their sport or would logic prevail?
Of course it's the North where reality is suspended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnJM_jC7j_4

[tiempo]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Quising spake

[Dreadnought]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Imagine thinking a GAA style stadium straight from the 60s would be sufficient going forward for years... Clones needs replaced, an Ulster final location is needed. Your suggestion ain't it

[JoG2]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Imagine thinking a GAA style stadium straight from the 60s would be sufficient going forward for years... Clones needs replaced, an Ulster final location is needed. Your suggestion ain't it

'some terracing'...you are spoiling us ambassador 

[trailer]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Clones was redeveloped in the early 90s for £4.5 million. Even if you treble that for cost inflation it's less than £15m. £65m would still buy a decent pure GAA stadium but there wouldn't be any premium level.

The full monty Casement would be much better, obviously.

If it was built would the soccer crowd demand the same for their sport or would logic prevail?
Of course it's the North where reality is suspended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnJM_jC7j_4

Just stop. You don't know what you are talking about. You cannot seem to read any of the points that have been made ad Infinium on this thread in relation to "a pure GAA stadium" "Clones" and "the soccer crowd".

[Armagh18]

Great to see a Tyrone man speaking sense for once, fair play Trailer!

[AustinPowers]

The Glider does go past Casement.

I'm not familiar  very much with Belfast .

If there is a glider stop   At Casement , are there any     Park and Ride facilities further out  of the city (around Sprucefield/Long Kesh etc) that would enable  easy access  for matches by the Glider?

[Rossfan]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Imagine thinking a GAA style stadium straight from the 60s would be sufficient going forward for years... Clones needs replaced, an Ulster final location is needed. Your suggestion ain't it

No Brit money = no Euro soccer = GAA have £80m (possibly plus our €50m).
Who then is going to pay the extra £75m to build a 34k capacity Ulster Final Stadium?
Just asking a realistic question

[clarshack]

this is the best chance to get a world class stadium in these neck of the woods. it needs to happen now or it never will.

[JPGJOHNNYG]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Imagine thinking a GAA style stadium straight from the 60s would be sufficient going forward for years... Clones needs replaced, an Ulster final location is needed. Your suggestion ain't it

No Brit money = no Euro soccer = GAA have £80m (possibly plus our €50m).
Who then is going to pay the extra £75m to build a 34k capacity Ulster Final Stadium?
Just asking a realistic question

I already posted that plenty of good stadia around Europe have been built recently for the 120 million mark for that sort of capacity seating and terracing. They just need to find good honest builders, unfortunately most GAA redevelopments cost the earth for not a lot which should be raising all sorts of red flags

[Dreadnought]

If the Euro soccer doesn't happen due to no more £s from the Brits then provide what you can with the funds available..new pitch, 5,000 seat stand, some terracing.

Imagine thinking a GAA style stadium straight from the 60s would be sufficient going forward for years... Clones needs replaced, an Ulster final location is needed. Your suggestion ain't it

No Brit money = no Euro soccer = GAA have £80m (possibly plus our €50m).
Who then is going to pay the extra £75m to build a 34k capacity Ulster Final Stadium?
Just asking a realistic question

First off, the GAA requirements are not the full cost of the stadium. GAA needs are far less than the UEFA standard, so if no Euros, or they don't want to host UEFA matches or such in future, then the cost gets revised down quite a bit from the silly figures being bandied about the place. I can't see how the British are let off with putting in no more money here, Euros or not. The original NI executive allowance is very far below inflation levels, and in order for some sort of stadium to be built, they will come in with something. I can't see how it will be swallowed politically if Ireland chumps in with 50million a few weeks ago and they do nothing, yet will get the tax proceeds of a stadium there. A very good stadium can be built with no Euros, but the point being is for a little bit more, the Euros can be done and you leave a modern legacy stadium there for all and paid off nearly immediately.

[johnnycool]

1. The Brits are not going to top up the funding for the sake of 4 matches imo.

2. The IFA is one of the key institutions of partition but is very weak at the moment. I didn't realise how poor it was.

3. This is about ideology versus money. Partition and sectarianism are stupid. Refusing to play in Casement might be consistent but it would also be stupid.

This must be the first time on the North, assuming that Casement goes ahead, that the Croppies have superior infrastructure to the chosen people. That is why it is so interesting. Usually culture war participants don't turn up.their noses at money.



Let's see

The IFA allowed themselves to be rode bareback by Linfield at the time of the Windsor stadium redevelopment, so much so other clubs kicked up a stink, none more so that Crusaders who got a free pitch because of it.

Linfield get a lot of the matchday profits when it comes to NI internationals.

A new Casement would allow them to generate more money, IF they can do a deal with Ulster GAA, but that may be part of the extra funding from Westminster which CHH is indeed on record as saying that the money would be found.

[trailer]

1. The Brits are not going to top up the funding for the sake of 4 matches imo.

2. The IFA is one of the key institutions of partition but is very weak at the moment. I didn't realise how poor it was.

3. This is about ideology versus money. Partition and sectarianism are stupid. Refusing to play in Casement might be consistent but it would also be stupid.

This must be the first time on the North, assuming that Casement goes ahead, that the Croppies have superior infrastructure to the chosen people. That is why it is so interesting. Usually culture war participants don't turn up.their noses at money.



Let's see

The IFA allowed themselves to be rode bareback by Linfield at the time of the Windsor stadium redevelopment, so much so other clubs kicked up a stink, none more so that Crusaders who got a free pitch because of it.

Linfield get a lot of the matchday profits when it comes to NI internationals.

A new Casement would allow them to generate more money, IF they can do a deal with Ulster GAA, but that may be part of the extra funding from Westminster which CHH is indeed on record as saying that the money would be found.

I can't see the IFA using Casement post Euros. Even just consider all the imagery that will be in situ as GAA ground. Are you suggesting that will be replaced at the time of a possible NI game. This idea is pie in sky.

The IFA also have a 51 year agreement with Linfield in regards to Windsor park.

[Milltown Row2]

The Glider does go past Casement.

I'm not familiar  very much with Belfast .

If there is a glider stop  At Casement , are there any    Park and Ride facilities further out  of the city (around Sprucefield/Long Kesh etc) that would enable  easy access  for matches by the Glider?

Glider stop is right at the leisure center next door to Casement